Women Running Alone
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I'm not a runner but thought that running means you are less aware of your surroundings .. focusing inwards or on music
that's why as a woman, and increasingly as a man, you need to look to your own safety by not putting yourself in dangerous situations... I can't get over my inbuilt fear of weaponry escalation though accept your point of view
Depends on the individual, but situational awareness and personal presence are the best defences against threats. Knowing how to read the environment, and put distance between oneself and a potential threat is a key skill.
A statement that I'd apply that's come from most of my training is being aware of the absence of the normal, presence of the abnormal. In my world that's about IEDs, mines and ambush, but it applies to this sort of thing as well.
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I run alone, usually in the evening. Most of my runs are at a large city park with dedicated jogging trails that tend to be crowded and are well lit. I also run on some mountain biking trails that are a lot less crowded, but still busy enough and near people.
The main thing is situational awareness, staying alert, and carrying myself "confidentially".
By biggest problem is actually loose dogs or snakes when I'm on certain nature trails.0 -
I'm the same way. I prefer to be with my dog (but she also doesn't always like people coming up to her so she'll bark them off...and sound mean doing it!). You could try carrying pepper spray? It could give you the little extra security blanket you need.0
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I don't run but I spend a lot of time outside late at night on break and the like. It's a relatively safe neighborhood but I still carry pepper spray in my apron when I leave work and there is an easily accessible pistol. I've also got some mma training and self defense. So yeah while I feel safe there are some areas I just don't go alone late at night.0
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You say you don't know anyone at a similar ability to run with... Have you looked for local running clubs/groups? Or even shop/group runs from a local running store? Scheduling can be a bit of a pain sometimes, but groups like these can be great and offer a number of benefits.0
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I can understand where you are coming from. We had several attacks in my quite little neighborhood. They caught the person but it really has me more aware of the surroundings. Luckily it has started to get lighter and the weather is getting better so more people are out.
Have you tried looking for a running club? There are tons of them out there with many people at different fitness levels. If you go to a gym perhaps ask them if there is a running group there. I know my gym has one.
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AllanMisner wrote: »AllanMisner wrote: »Buy a handgun, take a course, practice using it (especially when winded from a run), use a shoulder harness when you run. Unfortunately, we live in a world that allows people to prey on those who won’t take measures to protect themselves.
I'm not sure I like this advice
But then I live in a country where we don't carry arms so I just think the concept exacerbates the dangers. In stranger attacks it is more likely that you will be grabbed and wrestled with, risking arming your assailant
Men attack women because they are in a power position (stronger and/or already armed). If you’re properly trained and aware of your surroundings, he won’t get the drop on you and you won’t be losing your weapon.
I'm not a runner but thought that running means you are less aware of your surroundings .. focusing inwards or on music
that's why as a woman, and increasingly as a man, you need to look to your own safety by not putting yourself in dangerous situations... I can't get over my inbuilt fear of weaponry escalation though accept your point of view
You must be Canadian too
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Great advice here. Pepper spray, sirens, self defense, carry yourself with confidence...
And, if you do become victim, don't be afraid to have the balls--their eye balls--in your hands.0 -
I run alone a lot, and I totally understand your fear. I grew up in a not-so-good area and am still really cautious.
I run without music, and always have my phone on me and fully charged. I only run outdoors when it's light out, and only when it's going to stay light for longer than my run would take just in case I end up walking for whatever reason. I make sure to let someone know when I'm leaving, and when I expect to be back - boyfriend, neighbor - and give them my route just in case. It's actually come in handy before because I've twisted my ankle and needed a lift, but thankfully I've never been attacked/approached.
I also have a good friend who runs with her ring on; her rationale is that she can do more damage if she had to swing at someone. I guess a pointy stone to the face hurts no matter who you are!
Good luck OP - I hope you can work through your fears!0 -
I run to and around a park that has a good amount of people, I stay alert, but still run with music. And i'll generally run with a folded knife in my hand. It's probably not smart but it makes me feel better. Sometimes I'll run with pepper spray but I don't trust that I guess.
I was thinking about looking into a taser...0 -
Heck, you're running. With the majority of Americans being overweight or obese, and 3 out of 4 men being overweight or obese, if you've got one lazy enough to resort to mugging to make a living instead of working odds are you can just keep running and leave them in the dust!0
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I never run in secluded, dark areas. Thankfully, there is a nice lake I run around in my subdivision. When I venture out of my subdivision, I will make sure I go to parks or on trails with other runners, cyclists, and/or walkers are at.
I have an app on my cell, Road ID, that I use. When I start my walk/run, I send a notification to the people in my contact list on the app. These people can see my route and track me to know where I am. If there is no movement out of me within 5 minutes, it sounds an alarm on my cell and my contacts' phone. This happened once, and my cell let out this loud alarm and my boyfriend called to make sure I was ok. I had stopped to talk to a neighbor and forgot about having the app active. At least I learned it would work. :-)
We all must be safety conscious, know our surroundings, don't be in dark, secluded areas, and let someone know where we are at all times.0 -
To the OP, unless you happen to be running in the middle of a war zone, it isn't healthy to carry such fear around, all the time. If one's sense of caution and risk is always off-the-charts (I'm exaggerating a bit for purpose of discussion), there's a real possibility the individual may not be able to identify a situation may actually present a legitimate threat.
I am not suggesting your concerns are out of line. Even if the statistical risk may be low, bad things do happen.
I live in a large by Canadian standards city that has low rates of violet crime. Several years a woman was murdered while out running in my absolute favourite place to run, a fantastic forested park near the university. The killing was a shock to Vancouverites and the case remains unsolved.
Today I meet women running alone on the trails all the time and I can't help but wonder how they feel as they see me approaching. I'm rather glad I have a happy looking dog with me all the time as I hope that makes me look more like the harmless runner dude that I am rather than something to fear, but all the same I don't like feeling that one of us might fear the other, and I am saddened knowing that just my presence running toward a woman on a remote trail may incite fear.
But I keep running there and so do most women, both alone or in groups.
There's a fine line between trusting your primal instincts and giving in to them. I don't know how one avoids falling into the latter trap, but confidence, awareness, and putting the risks into proper perspective have to be part of the solution.
In the meantime there are undoubtedly many running groups in your city that you could join. Check with running speciality shops and community centres - they'll no doubt have a resource list they can point you do. Here in Vancouver there are many such groups catering to all types and speeds of runners.
You might also check with your local police department to see if they run themselves or can point you to other groups that offer courses or seminars on personal safety in the city.
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Goodness, carrying a knife in your hand? I can't imagine. I figure I'm statistically more likely to get hit by a car while running compared to any abduction situation. There is a reason these things are newsworthy - they are exceedingly rare. Don't run at night, keep to popular paths or busy streets and you'll be fine.
Seriously though, a gun??0 -
They aren't super rare though and not all of them hit the news.
It's a legitimate fear to have, and really you shouldn't dismiss others fears.0 -
Goodness, carrying a knife in your hand? I can't imagine. I figure I'm statistically more likely to get hit by a car while running compared to any abduction situation. There is a reason these things are newsworthy - they are exceedingly rare. Don't run at night, keep to popular paths or busy streets and you'll be fine.
Seriously though, a gun??
They make hip holsters for both handguns and knives. Some shops carry gun belts specific for active people like hikers, runners, etc. In most states training and a permit is required to carry a gun legally anyways. I don't leave home without mine even though I've never been assaulted or run into a situation where I felt I needed to use it. I have it hoping won't need it, because if I need it I'll be glad that I have it.veganbettie wrote: »They aren't super rare though and not all of them hit the news.
It's a legitimate fear to have, and really you shouldn't dismiss others fears.
Also, this ^^^^^.0 -
I'm going to echo others in saying that your fear is not irrational, not in the slightest. I think everyone has made great recommendations: 2nd dog, pepper spray, self-defense lessons, etc. If there are other women runners' groups or a general running group in your area, check it out! Safety in numbers!
Personally, I worry more about injury than attack when I'm running. I bring my phone on longer runs in case I need to call a cab/university security because I'm hurt somewhere and can't make it home. I almost never worry about anyone approaching or attacking me. I'm lucky that both the place I live now and my home town are low-crime areas and I've never really been bothered, so I don't have any fear when I head out for a run.0 -
Since you live in an urban area, check out meetup.com and see if there are any running groups.0
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I'm not dismissing the fear - it totally does happen. I run during the daylight and make a conscious effort to run in well populated places or roads. When I lived in rough neighborhoods, I carried pepper spray on my belt loop. I've read the statistics of attacks in areas I live in and try to stay informed of the danger. I still cannot fathom carrying around a gun holster on a run because it seems absurdly overkill.
But I think that's beside the point. Obviously you just need another dog!
A good article, if a few years old: http://www.athleta.net/2012/07/31/running-tragedies-and-how-to-stay-safe/
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Check out mrtt (moms run this town---you don't have to be a mom) and see if there is a local chapter. I love my mrtt group here!0
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I run in my neighborhood with my dog. I have run on occasion by myself but I wasn't too big of a fan. At this point, I would just get a treadmill if my dog couldn't run with me. My boyfriend is deploying soon and the last thing I need is for him to worry too much about me.0
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I'm not dismissing the fear - it totally does happen. I run during the daylight and make a conscious effort to run in well populated places or roads. When I lived in rough neighborhoods, I carried pepper spray on my belt loop. I've read the statistics of attacks in areas I live in and try to stay informed of the danger. I still cannot fathom carrying around a gun holster on a run because it seems absurdly overkill.
But I think that's beside the point. Obviously you just need another dog!
A good article, if a few years old: http://www.athleta.net/2012/07/31/running-tragedies-and-how-to-stay-safe/
If you're comfortable with guns then it wouldn't really be overkill to you. I'm not super comfortable with them so I would agree with you, I couldn't imagine running with one.
In all honestly I've gotten spooked running during the day time too. It's a scary world out there sometimes. I don't walk around in fear constantly but there is that looming in the back of my head especially after I became a mother.
And I agree. rescue all the puppies!!!! lol0 -
The gun idea--sounds like you've seen too many movies. I dislike carrying my phone, let alone a gun! It's going to be banging against you if you go at any speed, and besides, people are killed by their own handguns all the time--including by perpetrators who have disarmed them.
I carry a cat keychain. It is small, lightweight, and is meant to be held with the fingers through the cat's eyes and the sharp pointy ears poking out, ready to punch criminals in the eyes. It is not legal in all states, though.
Do you have a Running Zone or other running store? Check their sites/FB pages for running groups, or look for flyers in-store. I used to live by one that had twice-weekly runs.
I also used to run in a neighborhood that was between my work and home (I didn't live in a safe area). There were always dog walkers and kids on bikes out and no one ever questioned where I lived.0 -
You need a new dog! Or run with scissors. No one would ever mess with someone running with scissors.. I mean come on!!0
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I'm a firm believer that a person need to be aware of their surroundings. I live in the ghetto (no, I'm not kidding or trying to make jokes - statistically speaking there is a lot of gang related activity where I live) and I've never felt "unsafe" walking the streets where I live. I always carry mace, a knife, and my fully charged phone in my hydration pack. Some people think it's a little bulky to run with a mini backpack but doing endurance workouts for such a long time it's something I'm used to. I'd consider running with people but I'm an ahole and want the time alone to myself. Everyone has given great suggestions on the groups to if you feel you need a partner.0
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Carry a concealed weapon--whether it be a knife or a pistol. They make all kinds of concealment gear. Sign up for self defense training to learn how to defend yourself with a knife, pistol, or your bare hands. There is no reason to remain in fear. Empower yourself with the necessary knowledge and skill. Also, never run with headphones at max volume. Always keep your situational awareness up. Learn to not put yourself in dangerous situations as much as possible. Look up your state's laws on concealed weapons and get the necessary permit(s) and training.0
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I run with my husband right now, but we are moving and he is starting a new job and I am not sure he will keep up with it. I worry about it too. I know our local running shop has group runs they schedule. You may be able to find something like that in your area and then be able to find a running buddy. I run with a stroller so I have also had other mothers approach me for groups on the trail. I may be trying to find something like that when we move.
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barbecuesauce wrote: »The gun idea--sounds like you've seen too many movies. I dislike carrying my phone, let alone a gun! It's going to be banging against you if you go at any speed, and besides, people are killed by their own handguns all the time--including by perpetrators who have disarmed them.
It's all about personal preference (not the movies that I've watched) and how I was raised. I carry one because that it is my choice for personal protection, I also carry a hunting knife and mace on my key chain. 75% of the time I can probably get to my knife faster than my gun or my mace anyways. But of course after my dog was properly trained I felt more comfortable running with him without my gun, which did not bang against my hip while I ran because the belt holster that I have keeps it firmly in place.
OP I like the advice about running with a group if you're alright with that, I personally prefer to run alone though. Also getting a 2nd dog is a good option as well but make sure it is or is old (young) enough to be trained how to spot danger/predators and know when and when not to attack certain people. If you choose to carry any type of weapon make sure you get proper training with it and a permit if necessary, and I highly recommend taking a self defense class no matter which option you choose cause you never know when you might need those skills.0 -
kristinegift wrote: »I'm going to echo others in saying that your fear is not irrational, not in the slightest.
Whilst fear may not be irrational, the statistics don't really bear it out. Most analysis I've seen, of UK/ US/ Canadian and Australian crime figures have similar conclusions. Greatest incidence of interpersonal violence is alcohol related and between young males, the majority of sexual violence crimes are within existing relationships or with an assailant known to the victim.
There is significant reporting bias, that influences the perceived risk.
I'd add that I have seen stats around US crime, where there is a high incidence of the victim being shot using their own weapon.
Personally speaking, whilst I'm comfortable carrying pistol and rifle in an operational situation, I can't see any credible situation where I'd see it as proportionate in a civilian situation.
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Your fear is not irrational. My sister was attacked and barely survived being raped on a run alone 3 years ago. You have been given some good advice here, and some I'd flush down a toilet, never to be seen again. I have never felt safe running alone since she was attacked. Here are some valuable things Law Enforcement told us regarding running safety for women:
A. #1 deterrent to becoming prey is having a human running partner(s). Perps are looking for easy targets, and having a friend to sound the alarm ups their risk exponentially. I really would check for running clubs in your city. Most stores that sell running shoes have info on them. My co-worker joined one, and he said there are elites starting with the slowest, they all go at their own pace, and most of them wait around at the finish of the run for the slower runners & they go enjoy a beer together afterward. I wouldn't feel like a beer after running, but they seem to enjoy it! The point is, there is never one slow runner alone at the end of the pack. There are usually 3 or 4 people at each fitness level running together. Also, when I was in Cross Country in High School, our coach used to allow a woman in our community join us for practices. She wasn't a mom. She didn't know anyone on the team, but when she met the coach she expressed just this fear of running alone and he told her she was welcome. At the start of the Cross Country or Track season, most of the runs are what you would consider 'beginner' level & they build from there. I'm sure a community college or university coach may be open to this as well.
B. A large dog is also a very effective deterrent. I know yours is injured. Mine is too small to be scary to anyone. I seriously am adopting a large dog to feel safer on my runs. A 2nd dog would be an adjustment, but there are so many deserving animals out there in need of a home and love.
C. Pepper spray can stop some attackers. It can also fail in the event the predator is high on Meth, Bath Salts (yes, they are real), or crack. However, a large dog can disable one of these men on those drugs and make it physically impossible for them to carry out their ill intent. A dog's instincts are sharper than ours, and they are much better at reading an approaching person's character than we are. They are faster to react. We might fumble our pepper spray, or botch readying our gun, but a large dog will already have leapt to our defense as our pepper spray is falling to the ground. I intend on carrying pepper spray while running with my new large dog. A back up plan is good, too.
D. Large, open area parks with other people running/walking are a safer place so long as there are not dense trees/shrubbery planted near the trail. In my sister's case, she made the mistake of being on a popular running trail in the center of our city at daybreak. Large portions of that trail are open, but some some areas have dense shrubbery & that's where the attacker was hiding.
E. Of course, being aware of your surroundings and carrying yourself confidently helps deter some evil A-holes. In my sister's case, she was about as confident a woman you could ever meet. She carried herself strongly. Her vulnerability was in being alone, not in looking shy.
I really hope you are able to find a solution that's best for your situation. I had to chuckle at some of the comments about neighborhoods or communities being 'safe'. It's these nice, safe areas that predators often set up shop, because people have their guards down more. I am in no way trying to feed a phobia, but your fear has a valid reason for existing. You can minimize your risk by following some of the good advice you've been given here. And yes, it is male privilege that would cause a man to dismiss this fear.0
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