Eating Paleo, Dreaming of Grain
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Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Why can't you just say you eat fresh whole food and cook from scratch?
No, you have to give it a name and arbitrarily exclude certain foods. It's just silly.
Guess what? I eat fresh whole food and cook from scratch. I arbitrarily exclude certain foods.
I'm a vegetarian with celiac disease who doesn't like beets, lima beans, Swiss chard, or quinoa. So I exclude those too. There are a few cheeses I'm not particularly fond of either.
We ALL exclude foods due to preference. Most of us don't affix names to what we do because of it.
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ceoverturf wrote: »
that would help too! I don't do the paleo I just get a kick out of the sharks tank the convos turn into over a tiny little name lol.
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Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.0 -
HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I've been eating paleo for almost 3 years now. Can't eat gluten due to healthproblems and also wanted to stop eating (added) sugars.
You'll learn other ways to feel full
The beginning is really hard. I was craving bread and pasta for weeks! You're also feeling the effects of no sugar.. Try to have moooooore protein and good fats. Snacks like an apple with almond butter always fill me up pretty good. I eat meat and fish and eggs like crazy and I always have home made soup in my fridge.
almond butter was around in the Paleolithic era….really???
Dude, it's not whether almond butter was around the Paleolithic era, it's whether one could derive it from a source that would've been around in the Paleolithic era. If it's from a source that one would surmise was around to be eaten by our ancestors then one can conclude a derivative of it would be considered Paleo as well.
If you need more information, consider the following:
http://ultimatepaleoguide.com/almonds-paleo/
It's really easy to do a Google search on a food item and just ask a question regarding it. The Founder of Paleo is included in the search:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=is+almond+paleo
This is really simple stuff. Instead of picking apart someone's comment, try doing the research.
On the other side of the world right now, there's a sleeping archaeologist @Nony_Mouse. There. I just Betelgeused her in here.
If you want real Paleo info, she's got it. Not some Paleo blogs.
@MamaPeach910, you called? OMG so much wrong here already. Where to start?? Comments first on a few particularly gem-like things, then I'll work through the rest.
Not even going to touch the Adam and Eve thing.darrensurrey wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »My understanding is that Paleo doesn't have to be low carb
Good point. It's just stuff that was around when we couldn't speak proply. What was wheat doing back in the paleo era?
Growing wild, not being used because it's poisonous unless crushed into flour? LOL... before agriculture, wheat was not eaten in any form. We didn't know how to use it.
Yes it was, and yes we did. What, you seriously think people decided to start planting crops one day and went 'hey, I know, let's plant this thing we've never even eaten before!'. Yeah, nah.HeySwoleSister wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »@ndj1979 really? that's your comment? Just because you thinks it's *kitten*, doesn't mean it couldn't work well for other people. Paleo isn't about eating buffalo's in your cave. It's about trying to be natural and pure and don't consume too much processed food, but focusing on nutrients our body needs. At least, that's my opinion and vision on paleo and the way I eat. Before someone else starts bashing too.
Paleo is also just a name..
You should support people who care enough about their health to try and eat in a more natural way.
There's a sort of presumption there, that other ways of eating don't focus on nutrition. It's false.
Dairy's not nutritious because it's processed? Beans have no nutrition because of some vague woo about phytic acid? There's a lot of psedo-science behind what's considered "natural" and not in Paleo circles. That's the problem a lot of us have with it.
I have no problems with people wanting to eat nutrient-dense foods. None at all. But the claims made in paleo circles about the foods they won't eat are specious.
Also? Put five Paleo eaters in a room. They'll all eat different things, and it's not because of taste preference, it'll be down to whose blogs they read.
I won't even go into how foolish it is to call it "Paleo". Real Paleolithic people ate whatever they could get their grubby little hands on to survive, and none of it looked like what's on your plate now.
Nooooo! You are saying that paleolithic people did not eat sausages and burgers?
If you believe the Paleo/Crossfit True Believers I know, cavefolk ate chocolate covered bacon and did a metric sht-ton of burpees.
The theories behind Paleo diets are anthropological fanfiction. Paleolithic people likely ate a lot of bugs and grubs. Funny you don't see that much these days.
Also, prehistoric people most definitely ate grains. They usually soaked them for extended periods of time...and often they would ferment. In fact, that lovely fermented soaked grain is often credited with inspiring the dawn of agriculture and more permanent human settlement.
That's right. They made beer, which inspired the creation of civilization as we know it. Huh. Maybe I'll start my own "ancient" diet. Bugs and beer for everyone!
^^This. See, you guys don't even need me!tedboosalis7 wrote: »I've been eating paleo for almost 3 years now. Can't eat gluten due to healthproblems and also wanted to stop eating (added) sugars.
You'll learn other ways to feel full
The beginning is really hard. I was craving bread and pasta for weeks! You're also feeling the effects of no sugar.. Try to have moooooore protein and good fats. Snacks like an apple with almond butter always fill me up pretty good. I eat meat and fish and eggs like crazy and I always have home made soup in my fridge.
almond butter was around in the Paleolithic era….really???
Dude, it's not whether almond butter was around the Paleolithic era, it's whether one could derive it from a source that would've been around in the Paleolithic era. If it's from a source that one would surmise was around to be eaten by our ancestors then one can conclude a derivative of it would be considered Paleo as well.
If you need more information, consider the following:
http://ultimatepaleoguide.com/almonds-paleo/
It's really easy to do a Google search on a food item and just ask a question regarding it. The Founder of Paleo is included in the search:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=is+almond+paleo
This is really simple stuff. Instead of picking apart someone's comment, try doing the research.
Right, so why are we excluding grains again on Faleo? And why are we including a bunch of stuff that flat out didn't exist (like pretty much every vegetable commonly eaten)? This has to be one of the dumbest explanations I've ever seen of Faleo's rules. It would actually rule out a bunch of stuff you guys do eat, and rule in loads that you do.
And just when during the Paleolithic are we talking about? That era covers some 3.3 million years, since the emergence of the first stone tools (a date that just got pushed back from 2.6mya due to recent discoveries), up until the appearance of domesticated crops (a date which varies considerably geographically). And which hominin species? There were several around during the Paleolithic. Are we including Australopithicines, or only the Homo line? Only Anatomically Modern Homo Sapiens? What about geography? We'd actually managed to spread ourselves pretty far across the globe by the end of the Paleolithic, and geography plays a huge part in food availability.
The whole problem with Faleo is that it is built on completely false premises. I know some of you say 'it's just a name', but words have meaning, and that one conjures a particular (very long) period in human history, during which the many and varied diets of the people who lived during that time bore no resemblance to what any version of Faleo I've seen promotes. That's why I renamed it for you
Oh, as an aside, also saw somewhere that Paleolithic people couldn't speak properly. WTF??
Now I'm going to have some more coffee and read the rest of the thread.
Am I the only one who feels a little aroused after reading that?
(I've got a brain fetish that only a zombie could rival)mamapeach910 wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »tedboosalis7 wrote: »I've been eating paleo for almost 3 years now. Can't eat gluten due to healthproblems and also wanted to stop eating (added) sugars.
You'll learn other ways to feel full
The beginning is really hard. I was craving bread and pasta for weeks! You're also feeling the effects of no sugar.. Try to have moooooore protein and good fats. Snacks like an apple with almond butter always fill me up pretty good. I eat meat and fish and eggs like crazy and I always have home made soup in my fridge.
almond butter was around in the Paleolithic era….really???
Dude, it's not whether almond butter was around the Paleolithic era, it's whether one could derive it from a source that would've been around in the Paleolithic era. If it's from a source that one would surmise was around to be eaten by our ancestors then one can conclude a derivative of it would be considered Paleo as well.
If you need more information, consider the following:
http://ultimatepaleoguide.com/almonds-paleo/
It's really easy to do a Google search on a food item and just ask a question regarding it. The Founder of Paleo is included in the search:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=is+almond+paleo
This is really simple stuff. Instead of picking apart someone's comment, try doing the research.
On the other side of the world right now, there's a sleeping archaeologist @Nony_Mouse. There. I just Betelgeused her in here.
If you want real Paleo info, she's got it. Not some Paleo blogs.
@MamaPeach910, you called? OMG so much wrong here already. Where to start?? Comments first on a few particularly gem-like things, then I'll work through the rest.
Not even going to touch the Adam and Eve thing.darrensurrey wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »My understanding is that Paleo doesn't have to be low carb
Good point. It's just stuff that was around when we couldn't speak proply. What was wheat doing back in the paleo era?
Growing wild, not being used because it's poisonous unless crushed into flour? LOL... before agriculture, wheat was not eaten in any form. We didn't know how to use it.
Yes it was, and yes we did. What, you seriously think people decided to start planting crops one day and went 'hey, I know, let's plant this thing we've never even eaten before!'. Yeah, nah.HeySwoleSister wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »@ndj1979 really? that's your comment? Just because you thinks it's *kitten*, doesn't mean it couldn't work well for other people. Paleo isn't about eating buffalo's in your cave. It's about trying to be natural and pure and don't consume too much processed food, but focusing on nutrients our body needs. At least, that's my opinion and vision on paleo and the way I eat. Before someone else starts bashing too.
Paleo is also just a name..
You should support people who care enough about their health to try and eat in a more natural way.
There's a sort of presumption there, that other ways of eating don't focus on nutrition. It's false.
Dairy's not nutritious because it's processed? Beans have no nutrition because of some vague woo about phytic acid? There's a lot of psedo-science behind what's considered "natural" and not in Paleo circles. That's the problem a lot of us have with it.
I have no problems with people wanting to eat nutrient-dense foods. None at all. But the claims made in paleo circles about the foods they won't eat are specious.
Also? Put five Paleo eaters in a room. They'll all eat different things, and it's not because of taste preference, it'll be down to whose blogs they read.
I won't even go into how foolish it is to call it "Paleo". Real Paleolithic people ate whatever they could get their grubby little hands on to survive, and none of it looked like what's on your plate now.
Nooooo! You are saying that paleolithic people did not eat sausages and burgers?
If you believe the Paleo/Crossfit True Believers I know, cavefolk ate chocolate covered bacon and did a metric sht-ton of burpees.
The theories behind Paleo diets are anthropological fanfiction. Paleolithic people likely ate a lot of bugs and grubs. Funny you don't see that much these days.
Also, prehistoric people most definitely ate grains. They usually soaked them for extended periods of time...and often they would ferment. In fact, that lovely fermented soaked grain is often credited with inspiring the dawn of agriculture and more permanent human settlement.
That's right. They made beer, which inspired the creation of civilization as we know it. Huh. Maybe I'll start my own "ancient" diet. Bugs and beer for everyone!
^^This. See, you guys don't even need me!tedboosalis7 wrote: »I've been eating paleo for almost 3 years now. Can't eat gluten due to healthproblems and also wanted to stop eating (added) sugars.
You'll learn other ways to feel full
The beginning is really hard. I was craving bread and pasta for weeks! You're also feeling the effects of no sugar.. Try to have moooooore protein and good fats. Snacks like an apple with almond butter always fill me up pretty good. I eat meat and fish and eggs like crazy and I always have home made soup in my fridge.
almond butter was around in the Paleolithic era….really???
Dude, it's not whether almond butter was around the Paleolithic era, it's whether one could derive it from a source that would've been around in the Paleolithic era. If it's from a source that one would surmise was around to be eaten by our ancestors then one can conclude a derivative of it would be considered Paleo as well.
If you need more information, consider the following:
http://ultimatepaleoguide.com/almonds-paleo/
It's really easy to do a Google search on a food item and just ask a question regarding it. The Founder of Paleo is included in the search:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=is+almond+paleo
This is really simple stuff. Instead of picking apart someone's comment, try doing the research.
Right, so why are we excluding grains again on Faleo? And why are we including a bunch of stuff that flat out didn't exist (like pretty much every vegetable commonly eaten)? This has to be one of the dumbest explanations I've ever seen of Faleo's rules. It would actually rule out a bunch of stuff you guys do eat, and rule in loads that you do.
And just when during the Paleolithic are we talking about? That era covers some 3.3 million years, since the emergence of the first stone tools (a date that just got pushed back from 2.6mya due to recent discoveries), up until the appearance of domesticated crops (a date which varies considerably geographically). And which hominin species? There were several around during the Paleolithic. Are we including Australopithicines, or only the Homo line? Only Anatomically Modern Homo Sapiens? What about geography? We'd actually managed to spread ourselves pretty far across the globe by the end of the Paleolithic, and geography plays a huge part in food availability.
The whole problem with Faleo is that it is built on completely false premises. I know some of you say 'it's just a name', but words have meaning, and that one conjures a particular (very long) period in human history, during which the many and varied diets of the people who lived during that time bore no resemblance to what any version of Faleo I've seen promotes. That's why I renamed it for you
Oh, as an aside, also saw somewhere that Paleolithic people couldn't speak properly. WTF??
Now I'm going to have some more coffee and read the rest of the thread.
Am I the only one who feels a little aroused after reading that?
(I've got a brain fetish that only a zombie could rival)
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HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
I actually found an extremely appropriate gif from CotCB, but I'm already on the rope strike-wise, so I went with something "safer".0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
I actually found an extremely appropriate gif from CotCB, but I'm already on the rope strike-wise, so I went with something "safer".
I saw the film, or at least parts of it, when I was in my teens (I think my sister was watching it). The only thing that really stuck was one particular scene which is definitely not something to post here! Instant ban material I imagine.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
See, now you have to wade through so much twaddle in the actual book, if you are looking for porn.
this is the beauty of fanfic. It lets you just skim to the good parts. Much like a "paleo" diet.....lots of plot skimming in favor of the stuff you want to hear.0 -
HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
See, now you have to wade through so much twaddle in the actual book, if you are looking for porn.
this is the beauty of fanfic. It lets you just skim to the good parts. Much like a "paleo" diet.....lots of plot skimming in favor of the stuff you want to hear.
Ah, yes, you are quite right!!0 -
Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Fine rename it the "Fruit, veggies, and meat diet" ..oh wait that can't get turned into a marketing scam about a form of eating from 10,000 years ago that is supposedly superior to a modern diet….
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HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
See, now you have to wade through so much twaddle in the actual book, if you are looking for porn.
this is the beauty of fanfic. It lets you just skim to the good parts. Much like a "paleo" diet.....lots of plot skimming in favor of the stuff you want to hear.
"Me can't sexy time, Thog. Me go smash rocks on rock-grain for beersies."0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »HeySwoleSister wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
now you are moving the goal posts..
we are still waiting for the peer reviewed study showing that wheat grown today adversely affects humans as opposed to the wheat grown 10,000 years ago ...
I was actually replying here to the first of your (many) demands for information, i.e.CountryMom03 wrote: »The grain we have today vs the grain we had back in the old ages up until around 1960's are totally diff, and also grown and processed differently on top of that.
LOL oh really …
what would those differences be?????
So are we in acknowledgment now that today's grains are modified?
Really?? We've been modifying grains for 10,000 years. Y'know, that whole domestication thing.
Your sense-talking is not relevant to the fanfic at hand.
If we are going to do anthro-archaeologic fanfic, can't we at least have more explicit sex in there? It's not a good fanfic without supporting porn.
Doh! Me and my pesky facts!
We could post some snippets from Clan of the Cave Bear. Surely there's some steamy stuff in there, right? (never read it, so don't actually know!)
I actually found an extremely appropriate gif from CotCB, but I'm already on the rope strike-wise, so I went with something "safer".
I saw the film, or at least parts of it, when I was in my teens (I think my sister was watching it). The only thing that really stuck was one particular scene which is definitely not something to post here! Instant ban material I imagine.
I loved that movie...0 -
Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Fine rename it the "Fruit, veggies, and meat diet" ..oh wait that can't get turned into a marketing scam about a form of eating from 10,000 years ago that is supposedly superior to a modern diet….
I already renamed it. Faleo. Waiting for my millions to start rolling in.0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Fine rename it the "Fruit, veggies, and meat diet" ..oh wait that can't get turned into a marketing scam about a form of eating from 10,000 years ago that is supposedly superior to a modern diet….
I already renamed it. Faleo. Waiting for my millions to start rolling in.
something tells me that is not going to sell….0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Fine rename it the "Fruit, veggies, and meat diet" ..oh wait that can't get turned into a marketing scam about a form of eating from 10,000 years ago that is supposedly superior to a modern diet….
I already renamed it. Faleo. Waiting for my millions to start rolling in.
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Nony_Mouse wrote: »Why can't people just eat fruit and veggies and meat without being attacked because they called it "Paleo"? lol.
Fine rename it the "Fruit, veggies, and meat diet" ..oh wait that can't get turned into a marketing scam about a form of eating from 10,000 years ago that is supposedly superior to a modern diet….
I already renamed it. Faleo. Waiting for my millions to start rolling in.
something tells me that is not going to sell….
Aw man
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mamapeach910 wrote: »...if it doesn't work for you, it's not a sustainable thing. And ultimately, we all need to craft a personalized diet for ourselves that sustains us, body and soul.
This.
I think it's all about food that makes you feel good. And what is right for you will be different for others.
I had a very positive experience with a short term elimination diet. When nursing my second child, it was clear early on that she was sensitive to something in my diet (exorcist vomit). So I cut out the usual suspects: dairy, gluten, and soy. I followed a paleo-esque diet for 30 days, and the baby explosives stopped. I slowly started to add the above foods back in and found that dairy was causing her issues. But as a side effect, I noticed what a difference cutting out dairy made for my digestive system: gone were gas pains and bloating, and for the first time ever I had daily movements. I played around with dairy some more and found I can eat certain types of yogurt and hard cheeses. But ice cream and I are now frenemies: it has to be really good for me to eat it bc I know how I'll feel after.
So, figure out what works for you. As others have responded, there are plenty of ways you can add more carbs if you need them.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Skycake510 wrote: »I love how people on restrictive diets always report the same non-specific symptoms improving, even if they're diametrically opposed to one another. Vegans, fruitarians, paleo, keto, etc. always say they have more energy, less brain fog, less depression, better body composition, and greater sexual prowess than before said diet. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you *the placebo effect*. You feel better because you think you'll feel better. /slow clap
Yep, noticed that too. "Since I stopped eating meat I feel so much better!" "Since I started eating almost only meat I feel so much better!"
Well since I started paying attention to my macros, I DO feel much much better! LOL
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mamapeach910 wrote: »...if it doesn't work for you, it's not a sustainable thing. And ultimately, we all need to craft a personalized diet for ourselves that sustains us, body and soul.
This.
I think it's all about food that makes you feel good. And what is right for you will be different for others.
I had a very positive experience with a short term elimination diet. When nursing my second child, it was clear early on that she was sensitive to something in my diet (exorcist vomit). So I cut out the usual suspects: dairy, gluten, and soy. I followed a paleo-esque diet for 30 days, and the baby explosives stopped. I slowly started to add the above foods back in and found that dairy was causing her issues. But as a side effect, I noticed what a difference cutting out dairy made for my digestive system: gone were gas pains and bloating, and for the first time ever I had daily movements. I played around with dairy some more and found I can eat certain types of yogurt and hard cheeses. But ice cream and I are now frenemies: it has to be really good for me to eat it bc I know how I'll feel after.
So, figure out what works for you. As others have responded, there are plenty of ways you can add more carbs if you need them.
My daughter is lactose intolerant and she's the same way-yogurt and processed American cheese don't bother her. Ice cream takes her out though
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Sarasmaintaining wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »...if it doesn't work for you, it's not a sustainable thing. And ultimately, we all need to craft a personalized diet for ourselves that sustains us, body and soul.
This.
I think it's all about food that makes you feel good. And what is right for you will be different for others.
I had a very positive experience with a short term elimination diet. When nursing my second child, it was clear early on that she was sensitive to something in my diet (exorcist vomit). So I cut out the usual suspects: dairy, gluten, and soy. I followed a paleo-esque diet for 30 days, and the baby explosives stopped. I slowly started to add the above foods back in and found that dairy was causing her issues. But as a side effect, I noticed what a difference cutting out dairy made for my digestive system: gone were gas pains and bloating, and for the first time ever I had daily movements. I played around with dairy some more and found I can eat certain types of yogurt and hard cheeses. But ice cream and I are now frenemies: it has to be really good for me to eat it bc I know how I'll feel after.
So, figure out what works for you. As others have responded, there are plenty of ways you can add more carbs if you need them.
My daughter is lactose intolerant and she's the same way-yogurt and processed American cheese don't bother her. Ice cream takes her out though
What about coconut milk ice cream or soy ice cream? It's actually pretty delicious.0 -
The British Dietetic Association named the paleo diet as among the five worst celebrity-endorsed diets of 2015, saying it risks being "unbalanced, time consuming, [and] socially isolating" and so "a sure-fire way to develop nutrient deficiencies".
A ranking by U.S. News & World Report, involving a panel of experts, evaluated the diet based on factors including health, weight loss, and ease of following. In 2014, it tied for last place out of 32 with the Dukan Diet.
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Sarasmaintaining wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »...if it doesn't work for you, it's not a sustainable thing. And ultimately, we all need to craft a personalized diet for ourselves that sustains us, body and soul.
This.
I think it's all about food that makes you feel good. And what is right for you will be different for others.
I had a very positive experience with a short term elimination diet. When nursing my second child, it was clear early on that she was sensitive to something in my diet (exorcist vomit). So I cut out the usual suspects: dairy, gluten, and soy. I followed a paleo-esque diet for 30 days, and the baby explosives stopped. I slowly started to add the above foods back in and found that dairy was causing her issues. But as a side effect, I noticed what a difference cutting out dairy made for my digestive system: gone were gas pains and bloating, and for the first time ever I had daily movements. I played around with dairy some more and found I can eat certain types of yogurt and hard cheeses. But ice cream and I are now frenemies: it has to be really good for me to eat it bc I know how I'll feel after.
So, figure out what works for you. As others have responded, there are plenty of ways you can add more carbs if you need them.
My daughter is lactose intolerant and she's the same way-yogurt and processed American cheese don't bother her. Ice cream takes her out though
What about coconut milk ice cream or soy ice cream? It's actually pretty delicious.
she likes coconut ice cream, hasn't tried soy yet 0 -
Sarasmaintaining wrote: »mamapeach910 wrote: »...if it doesn't work for you, it's not a sustainable thing. And ultimately, we all need to craft a personalized diet for ourselves that sustains us, body and soul.
This.
I think it's all about food that makes you feel good. And what is right for you will be different for others.
I had a very positive experience with a short term elimination diet. When nursing my second child, it was clear early on that she was sensitive to something in my diet (exorcist vomit). So I cut out the usual suspects: dairy, gluten, and soy. I followed a paleo-esque diet for 30 days, and the baby explosives stopped. I slowly started to add the above foods back in and found that dairy was causing her issues. But as a side effect, I noticed what a difference cutting out dairy made for my digestive system: gone were gas pains and bloating, and for the first time ever I had daily movements. I played around with dairy some more and found I can eat certain types of yogurt and hard cheeses. But ice cream and I are now frenemies: it has to be really good for me to eat it bc I know how I'll feel after.
So, figure out what works for you. As others have responded, there are plenty of ways you can add more carbs if you need them.
My daughter is lactose intolerant and she's the same way-yogurt and processed American cheese don't bother her. Ice cream takes her out though
What about coconut milk ice cream or soy ice cream? It's actually pretty delicious.
I concur about coconut milk ice cream. I bought some to give to my dairy allergic toddler as a treat.
Ate most of it myself...0 -
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I haven't read all the pages yet but a lot of people that eliminate items on the paleo diet (dairy, wheat, etc) might be feeling somewhat better because they are eating more low fodmap items in their diet, and less high fodmap items that might make us feel pretty crappy. There's some science behind it too
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I haven't read all the pages yet but a lot of people that eliminate items on the paleo diet (dairy, wheat, etc) might be feeling somewhat better because they are eating more low fodmap items in their diet, and less high fodmap items that might make us feel pretty crappy. There's some science behind it too
For people who have issues with those things, yes indeed. It doesn't apply to everyone though 0 -
Nony_Mouse wrote: »I haven't read all the pages yet but a lot of people that eliminate items on the paleo diet (dairy, wheat, etc) might be feeling somewhat better because they are eating more low fodmap items in their diet, and less high fodmap items that might make us feel pretty crappy. There's some science behind it too
For people who have issues with those things, yes indeed. It doesn't apply to everyone though
You are correct. But when it applies to people like myself, make some room please. I think that's the issue. Too much CICO, not much about metabolics, macros, good eating habits, and not outrunning a bad diet. Being healthy is two things - diet and exercise. 80% diet + 20% exercise. If you eat like crap, exercise means nothing - maybe if you are young you can get away with it. For us old farts, that's NOT an option. Old guys damage their metabolics enough in their life during their "I can get away with it" phase and denial phase. Once you accept, you realize what you really have to do.0 -
tedboosalis7 wrote: »Nony_Mouse wrote: »I haven't read all the pages yet but a lot of people that eliminate items on the paleo diet (dairy, wheat, etc) might be feeling somewhat better because they are eating more low fodmap items in their diet, and less high fodmap items that might make us feel pretty crappy. There's some science behind it too
For people who have issues with those things, yes indeed. It doesn't apply to everyone though
You are correct. But when it applies to people like myself, make some room please. I think that's the issue. Too much CICO, not much about metabolics, macros, good eating habits, and not outrunning a bad diet. Being healthy is two things - diet and exercise. 80% diet + 20% exercise. If you eat like crap, exercise means nothing - maybe if you are young you can get away with it. For us old farts, that's NOT an option. Old guys damage their metabolics enough in their life during their "I can get away with it" phase and denial phase. Once you accept, you realize what you really have to do.
I am well versed in making allowances for medical issues, and I never said people should only eat 'crap'. I do, however, believe that if you have no extenuating circumstances you can make room for treat items as part of an overall healthy diet. That's actually what I see most people who don't believe in the need to eliminate entire food groups for no reason saying.
Also, I'm only three years younger than you, but I don't consider myself an 'old fart'
(and trust me, I have done wicked damage to my metabolism at times). 0 -
@Nony_Mouse thank you for bringing some much needed sense to this thread. It was quite a wild ride until you showed up 0
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