Nothing is happening :-(

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  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    avskk wrote: »
    You don't maintain or gain from not eating enough. If you're not losing, you're eating too much -- not too little. Your body doesn't create extra weight (be it waste weight, water weight, muscle weight, or fat weight) out of nothing.

    but you have to eat enough to burn the calories.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited May 2015
    Hisservent wrote: »
    avskk wrote: »
    You don't maintain or gain from not eating enough. If you're not losing, you're eating too much -- not too little. Your body doesn't create extra weight (be it waste weight, water weight, muscle weight, or fat weight) out of nothing.

    but you have to eat enough to burn the calories.

    you are eating to much start weighing ALL your solid food

    Its very simple

    Weight loss = eat less than you burn
    Maintenance = eat the same amount of calories as you burn
    Weight gain = eat more than you burn

    You eat more calories than you think!!!!
    because you dont weigh your food.
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    If your BMR is 1450, then you probably burn 20-30% of that thru normal daily activity. Moving thru your day, chasing the kids, running errands. More if you have an on your feet job.

    So lets assume
    1450 BMR
    300-450 Activity Daily (20-30% of BMR)

    Then exercise would be additional, depending on what you do & how long & how intense. There are many calculators, but generally in the 140-150 pound range you're not going to burn a lot per minute. So something in the 4-6 cals per minute range. (In addition to BMR.)

    So perhaps for 30-60 minutes of cardio, 120 on the low end to 360 on the high end.

    Personally I'd suggest to take the 1750 BMR & Activity, and take away 250 for .5 pounds per week: eat 1500. Then unless you do something very rigorous, do not eat back exercise calories and that might account for another .5 pounds per week.

    BUT without a food scale, you are guessing. Nothing wrong with trying to estimate - but if you try a program for 4-8 weeks and you're not seeing the results you think should be happening, then look for where you can improve accuracy. Common pitfalls: overestimating burn and underestimating calories in.
    Hisservent wrote: »
    If my BMR is 1450 and I burn about 300 in exercise, what should be my daily intake?

    So, I'm NOT eating enough. I SHOULD be eating some of those calories back? 3x a week, I do 60 mins of cardio (4 mile power walk) and in that cardio at least once a week includes weight training. THen 2x a week, I do 30 mins on a manual stepper using intervals (2 mins of fast pace, 3 of slow)
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    so according to "fitness frog" your TDEE is 2243. You would subtract 10-20% from that depending on the rate you want to lose. 2243-15% for example would be 1900 cal/day. This includes the assumed moderate exercise of 3-5 days per week.

    I prefer IIFYM but can't get the site to load.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    edited May 2015
    Hisservent wrote: »
    If your BMR is 1450, then you probably burn 20-30% of that thru normal daily activity. Moving thru your day, chasing the kids, running errands. More if you have an on your feet job.

    So lets assume
    1450 BMR
    300-450 Activity Daily (20-30% of BMR)

    Then exercise would be additional, depending on what you do & how long & how intense. There are many calculators, but generally in the 140-150 pound range you're not going to burn a lot per minute. So something in the 4-6 cals per minute range. (In addition to BMR.)

    So perhaps for 30-60 minutes of cardio, 120 on the low end to 360 on the high end.

    Personally I'd suggest to take the 1750 BMR & Activity, and take away 250 for .5 pounds per week: eat 1500. Then unless you do something very rigorous, do not eat back exercise calories and that might account for another .5 pounds per week.

    BUT without a food scale, you are guessing. Nothing wrong with trying to estimate - but if you try a program for 4-8 weeks and you're not seeing the results you think should be happening, then look for where you can improve accuracy. Common pitfalls: overestimating burn and underestimating calories in.
    Hisservent wrote: »
    If my BMR is 1450 and I burn about 300 in exercise, what should be my daily intake?

    So, I'm NOT eating enough. I SHOULD be eating some of those calories back? 3x a week, I do 60 mins of cardio (4 mile power walk) and in that cardio at least once a week includes weight training. THen 2x a week, I do 30 mins on a manual stepper using intervals (2 mins of fast pace, 3 of slow)

    As others pointed out, without weighing, you don't actually know how much you're eating. So you can't really conclude it's not enough.

    ETA: I personally think 2 lb/mo is awesome for someone with a 10 lb goal. So you could just keep doing what you're doing and estimating the way you are and don't eat more or less. It's working.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    Ok, so SAY I get a scale.....I still want to know how much I should be eating!
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    I NEVER used a scale and never had a problem losing until recently.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    I totally agree, but she still needs to know what her goals are. She had her TDEE as 3000.
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    What MFP gives you here as calorie allowance and most people eat back 25 to 75% of their burned calories on top of that
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    Hisservent wrote: »
    I NEVER used a scale and never had a problem losing until recently.

    that's when you get one
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    I totally agree, but she still needs to know what her goals are. She had her TDEE as 3000.
    she can plug in here stats here and set her goals

    Its very simple, why make it so hard?

    So fill in your stats/goals here
    Weigh all your food and eat around your calorie allowance
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    edited May 2015
    What MFP gives you here as calorie allowance and most people eat back 25 to 75% of their burned calories on top of that

    ^^ This.. Plug in your numbers, get a food scale, log accurately, eat back part of calories burned and you'll be set.

    ETA: and make adjustments to the numbers if you need to.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    Hisservent wrote: »
    I NEVER used a scale and never had a problem losing until recently.

    that's when you get one

    QFT
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    edited May 2015
    Hisservent wrote: »
    I NEVER used a scale and never had a problem losing until recently.

    Thats because for most people when they start their deficit is bigger so result is weight loss.
    The more weight they lose the smaller their deficit became. So they are moving slowly to maintenance level.
    The more weight you lose the more accurate your logging have to be to keep losing weight and keeping that deficit.

    At one point your deficit is gone you eat at maintenance level. You are not the only one who falls into this trick. Search the forum here, lots had/have the same problem and as soon as they start weighing their food they are:
    1. surprised about the amount of calories a real weighed out portion is
    2. start losing weight when they created a deficit again

  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    edited May 2015
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    I totally agree, but she still needs to know what her goals are. She had her TDEE as 3000.

    My TDEE isn't even 3000 and I'm 6'1", 195lbs.


    Thread killer :D
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    edited May 2015
    I believe, based on various calculators, that my TDEE is about 2245. So subtract 20% and that's 1796....that's what I should be eating a day if I keep up with the amt of exercise I've been doing. And if I don't keep up with it, I need to DECREASE the amt of calories.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    You have two options:

    1. If you're exercising regularly, use the TDEE method and subtract 10-20% from your TDEE and not eat back any exercise calories.

    2. Put your numbers into MFP and eat close to the goal number including eating back a portion of your exercise calories.

    Either one of these will require you to weigh your food on a scale at least long enough to learn proper portions.
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    You have two options:

    1. If you're exercising regularly, use the TDEE method and subtract 10-20% from your TDEE and not eat back any exercise calories.

    2. Put your numbers into MFP and eat close to the goal number including eating back a portion of your exercise calories.

    Either one of these will require you to weigh your food on a scale at least long enough to learn proper portions.

    I just ordered one and it'll be here on Friday. :smile:
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    Hisservent wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    You have two options:

    1. If you're exercising regularly, use the TDEE method and subtract 10-20% from your TDEE and not eat back any exercise calories.

    2. Put your numbers into MFP and eat close to the goal number including eating back a portion of your exercise calories.

    Either one of these will require you to weigh your food on a scale at least long enough to learn proper portions.

    I just ordered one and it'll be here on Friday. :smile:

    Awesome! . You'll get there. Best of luck!
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    Hisservent wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    You have two options:

    1. If you're exercising regularly, use the TDEE method and subtract 10-20% from your TDEE and not eat back any exercise calories.

    2. Put your numbers into MFP and eat close to the goal number including eating back a portion of your exercise calories.

    Either one of these will require you to weigh your food on a scale at least long enough to learn proper portions.

    I just ordered one and it'll be here on Friday. :smile:

    Awesome! . You'll get there. Best of luck!

    So I DO have to be consuming about 1700 calories to lose weight, based on my activity level. I have always measured food with measuring cups and a tape measure. I mean just today, I measured my banana to make sure I documented the right size. When I measure lasagna, I measure 1 cup. When I eat ice cream, I measure 1/2 cup. etc. Oh well. And I suppose, with a scale I can fit it in right lol.
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    That number sounds right to me. As you lose some, say 10 pounds, I would recalculate because those numbers will change.

    I don't know if you watched the video that was posted but it really demonstrates the discrepancies between measuring and weighing. Me scooping 1/2 cup of ice cream can vary greatly from your scoop despite using the same cup.

    Most packages have foods listed in grams or ounces. Grams are more precise if you have the option. For things like bananas, you can use the "bananas-raw" entry and get a much more accurate number. They vary quite a bit in calories. If you use the phone app, scanning packages works well and if you're cooking from scratch, you can use the recipe builder.

    Sometimes you need to search for the correct entry because there are many user created entries that are not accurate. But the more you do it, the easier it becomes.
  • kmdigan
    kmdigan Posts: 11 Member
    I feel ya. I have about 150 lbs to lose and I've been counting calories, weighing food and doing cardio/weights for at least 30 min 5x a week for 6 weeks now. Everything is the same. Weight, clothes fitting, etc. It's very depressing and hard to stay on track but I'm hoping (like someone mentioned above) that it's just water weight from years of no exercise to now exercising a lot. Good luck!
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!
  • kami3006
    kami3006 Posts: 4,979 Member
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)

    we can all sleep easy now LOL ;)
  • BWBTrish
    BWBTrish Posts: 2,817 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)

    we can all sleep easy now LOL ;)

    lol

    sometimes i really wonder why i bother hehehe

  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)

    we can all sleep easy now LOL ;)

    lol

    sometimes i really wonder why i bother hehehe

    me..... all. the. time.
  • Hisservent
    Hisservent Posts: 25 Member
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)

    we can all sleep easy now LOL ;)

    lol

    sometimes i really wonder why i bother hehehe

    why you bother to help or sleep?
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    Hisservent wrote: »
    kami3006 wrote: »
    People you can calculate all you want, but OP is NOT weighing her food
    She has no idea how much calories she eats.

    So advising her to eat more is not really a good idea.

    thank you.

    ugh!

    She got a scale so it's all good. :)

    we can all sleep easy now LOL ;)

    lol

    sometimes i really wonder why i bother hehehe

    why you bother to help or sleep?

    to answer the same questions over and over and over and over


    i really like sleep......