Eating less calories then my actual goal and putting on weight?
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Chrysalid2014 wrote: »debsdoingthis wrote: »
Muscle DOES NOT weigh more than fat! Seriously this statement belong on the things that make me angry thread
By volume it does.
More specifically, muscle is more dense than fat.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Let me find the article. His site is packed with info. I know I just read it this past week. His advice as with my MD to eat more was really hard to get my head around. It's flies in face of everything we've been told. I was very resistant to it in the beginning. As my Dr said if exercise plus 1200 calories was the answer everyone would be thin and the weight loss industry would be out of business.
Your doctor sounds profoundly confused.
Why?? Because she doesn't follow the VLC diet insanity?jewcyascanbe wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
No no no that is not how it works. You cannot store energy with no energy.
i didnt say store energy i said fatjanejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
Because our bodies are not mathematical equations. There are hormones and other factors that come into play. There is also a significant bump in metabolism. It just works.
These three posts combine for some of the misinformed, scientifically disproved, physically impossible concepts I've seen here for a long time.
It's quite shocking how much pseudoscience is tossed around with respect to weight loss, even among those who you would think are smarter than that. For example, I'm an engineer and work with other engineers who are quite intelligent. One of my friends subscribes to the idea that it doesn't matter how much fat and protein you eat, that as long as you cut or eliminate carbs you will lose weight. I've tried to explain how the First Law of Thermodynamics applies to a human body as much as it does to a refrigerator, but to no avail. I believe this is what Francis Bacon was describing when he said "Man prefers to believe what he prefers to be true."0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
Because our bodies are not mathematical equations. There are hormones and other factors that come into play. There is also a significant bump in metabolism. It just works.
100 calorie deficit per day does not equal one pound weight loss per week for anyone. I would like to see the medical issue for this to apply.
Try it. Eat up to your TDEE. Stay there for 3-4 weeks or longer. Then start subtracting 50 calories a day. You will shred weight like crazy.yopeeps025 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
Because our bodies are not mathematical equations. There are hormones and other factors that come into play. There is also a significant bump in metabolism. It just works.
100 calorie deficit per day does not equal one pound weight loss per week for anyone. I would like to see the medical issue for this to apply.
Try it. Eat up to your TDEE. Stay there for 3-4 weeks or longer. Then start subtracting 50 calories a day. You will shred weight like crazy.
Why would I do that when I know that is not how you lose weight?Chrysalid2014 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
The article doesn't mention a specific number of pounds per week. It says that you (paraphrasing) eat your way up to maintenance level over the space of 12 weeks and then: "Reverse the process and start decreasing your calories by 50 per day for a week at a time. If you made it all the way up to 1800, then lower it to 1750/day for the first week. Watch as your body starts shedding body fat like it’s going out of style."
I think what he's basically talking about is reverse dieting, but isn't that usually something that's done after a significant time/amount of weight loss (basically to correct metabolic adaptation)?
So you recommend me try what you have no idea about?0 -
Let me find the article. His site is packed with info. I know I just read it this past week. His advice as with my MD to eat more was really hard to get my head around. It's flies in face of everything we've been told. I was very resistant to it in the beginning. As my Dr said if exercise plus 1200 calories was the answer everyone would be thin and the weight loss industry would be out of business.
What qualifies your doctor to give nutrition advice?0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that your calorie burn is inflated. What are you doing exactly that you are getting 800 calorie per day burns?
unless your are very overweight a hour of exercise wont bring you that much of a burn.
I was going to suggest something along the lines as this. Are you going by the calories MFP tells you you have burned when you log your exercise? MFP is well known for sometimes wildly overestimating the amount of calories burned on various exercises, and so as a rule of thumb people usually count half or two thirds of the exercise calories it tells you you have burned, just to be on the safe side.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Let me find the article. His site is packed with info. I know I just read it this past week. His advice as with my MD to eat more was really hard to get my head around. It's flies in face of everything we've been told. I was very resistant to it in the beginning. As my Dr said if exercise plus 1200 calories was the answer everyone would be thin and the weight loss industry would be out of business.
Your doctor sounds profoundly confused.
Why?? Because she doesn't follow the VLC diet insanity?jewcyascanbe wrote: »yopeeps025 wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
No no no that is not how it works. You cannot store energy with no energy.
i didnt say store energy i said fatjanejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
Because our bodies are not mathematical equations. There are hormones and other factors that come into play. There is also a significant bump in metabolism. It just works.
These three posts combine for some of the misinformed, scientifically disproved, physically impossible concepts I've seen here for a long time.ivyelaine96 wrote: »NellyDolphin wrote: »I do a lot of cycling tho plus swimming
With the amount of excersize you're doing it's possible that you are toning and gaining muscle while losing fat. Muscle weighs more then fat so don't get discouraged!
That is not how this works.
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I also think it's funny how people are proposing OP is gaining muscle...from cycling.0
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lemonsnowdrop wrote: »I also think it's funny how people are proposing OP is gaining muscle...from cycling.
There is lots of wrong in this thread.0 -
* You need to weigh your foods. Chances are your portions are much bigger than you think. You have to be overeating.
* Watch the sodium in your foods-many will think they're "gaining weight" when it can just be bloat. Drink more water, and "gains" aren't abnormal, they're just daily fluctuations.
* Do not listen to whoever said you'll start losing weight 'crazy fast' if you eat at maintenance and lower by 50cals. You'll lose weight, but it will take a long time... I doubt there is any true way to "jumpstart" your metabolism.
* If you eat back exercise calories projected by MFP, don't eat 100%. Most people only eat back 50-75% of them, because it can be hugely overestimated. For example, if I log that I walk on a treadmill for an hour, it will put me around 500-600 calories. I know that I am not burning anywhere near that! Probably half that, or less...0 -
There may not be a "starvation mode" but metabolic syndrome is real. Ask Ballerinas who are eating 500-600 calories a day and dancing and can't lose weight. Ask anyone who has been in a stall for a couple months. Once the stall is over, they don't suddenly drop all the weight they should have in those couple of months, they drop a normal amount. That said. Stop eating back your calories and you will be fine.
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There may not be a "starvation mode" but metabolic syndrome is real. Ask Ballerinas who are eating 500-600 calories a day and dancing and can't lose weight. Ask anyone who has been in a stall for a couple months. Once the stall is over, they don't suddenly drop all the weight they should have in those couple of months, they drop a normal amount. That said. Stop eating back your calories and you will be fine.
If I were to stall for a couple of months I would make sure my log is as accurate as it can be.
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There may not be a "starvation mode" but metabolic syndrome is real. Ask Ballerinas who are eating 500-600 calories a day and dancing and can't lose weight. Ask anyone who has been in a stall for a couple months. Once the stall is over, they don't suddenly drop all the weight they should have in those couple of months, they drop a normal amount. That said. Stop eating back your calories and you will be fine.
Metabolic adaptation takes months, if not years of failing to provide the body with the nutrients it needs coupled with deficits that eventually lead to lost lean body mass which reduces the body's ability to burn calories.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Nerdybreisawesome wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
Definitely NOT THIS.
Yes it can be this!http://www.coachcalorie.com/get-over-fear-of-eating-more-calories/
As the article explains eating below your BMR or too few calories in general will NOT result in greater weight loss. It will stall it and YES cause a GAIN! I'm living proof of this. It was my MD who pointed it out. I slowly added calories until I was 2100-2400 per day. Then I started cutting 50 calories a day. Somewhere in the 2000-2100 range I started losing. As the article states 100 calorie a day deficit can lead to 1 lb a week weight loss.
100 calories a day is 700 calories in a week. How will this result in losing 1 pound a week?
Because our bodies are not mathematical equations. There are hormones and other factors that come into play. There is also a significant bump in metabolism. It just works.
If you are going to assert that a deficit of 700 calories will burn an additional 2,800 calories, you need more than "it just works."
A hahahaha! This made me smile!0 -
thorsmom01 wrote: »jewcyascanbe wrote: »if you aren't eating enough your body will go into starvation mode and store fat instead of burning it. You must have balance when it comes to eating and exercise. you cant exercise all day but barely eat. you also have to be considerate of what youre eating even if its low in calories.
If this is true please explain how prisoners in concentration camps where extremely thin, basically just skin and bones? How are anorexic people so thin that they look like walking skeletons??
+1
When I was suffering from anorexia (for a few years until I was around 19ish... 8 years ago), I never stopped losing weight. I used to restrict to 1200 calories and exercise a ton. Then as I lost more and more weight... I didn't have the energy to exercise. I'd restrict to around 500-700 calories a day and basically nap all day, whenever possible. I still lost weight up until I went into treatment. I was 103 lb, 5'5. I wore children's clothes.
I used another calorie counting website back then and I always read about starvation mode. I never understood why it didn't happen to me. That nonsense was a lot more prevalent back then. Because according to starvation mode... I should have been ballooning up in weight!
I know... It's anecdotal evidence about the non-existence of starvation mode. I'm sure I had metabolic adaptation to a certain degree because I wasn't dropping weight fast... But in no way shape or form did I ever gain weight that way!!
To conclude.... No. You're body will not store fat eating less food. Makes noooo sense.0 -
I'm having the same problem - 10 days of strict weighing and measuring plus 10,000 steps on the pedometer (half through a one-hour fast walk) and I've gained 3 pounds since starting. I've never had this happen before in all my previous weight loss attempts. To compensate, I'm measuring my hips, waist and bust instead of relying just on the scale and I am seeing evidence that I'm losing inches, even though I'm not losing pounds. One thing I'm doing differently is taking a probiotic every day. We have several pounds of bacteria in our bodies, and I'm wondering if maybe the bacteria is just growing exponentially. At any rate, I seriously doubt I'm adding muscle mass - all I've done is cut portions, not add a ton of protein and muscle exercises. It's a mystery for me, too.0
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Stick to it! Log all your food and exercise. Eat your calories, leave none on the table and drink plenty of water. I ate two handfuls of salty almonds last night and gained 2 lbs! It's temporary. Avoid salt and don't get discouraged. Good luck on your weight loss journey;)0
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