Quinoa or bulgar? - which is healther?
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DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.
Clearly eating low fat causes people to purchase Ataris!0 -
The point is you "learned" stuff from Google without applying any basic analysis to the data. You cherry picked the information you wanted and presented it as fact and ignored all of the other information out there that refuted what you were espousing.Just sharing what I have learned. Isn't that what we do here? Sorry you don't agree with the concept of grain free, you don't have to. Have a great day.DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
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@DrawnToScale thank you0
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Just sharing what I have learned. Isn't that what we do here? Sorry you don't agree with the concept of grain free, you don't have to. Have a great day.
Why not critically examine the information to see if it is false? It sure would be a fool's errand to demonise a food for a decade or two just to find out you were wrong all along.
I'm telling you that you are wrong about how cattle are raised and that somehow grains make cattle "fat". To "fatten" beef does not necessarily mean "grain-fed". I believe true Kobe beef is grass-fed, but it is also famous for being marbled with fat.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.
Clearly eating low fat causes people to purchase Ataris!
I can see no other logical conclusion.
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Grain consumption is up, but so are most things.
ERS data suggest that average daily calorie intake increased by 24.5 percent, or about 530 calories, between 1970 and 2000. Of that 24.5-percent increase, grains (mainly refined grain products) contributed 9.5 percentage points; added fats and oils, 9.0 percentage points; added sugars, 4.7 percentage points; fruits and vegetables together, 1.5 percentage points; meats and nuts together, 1 percentage point; and dairy products and eggs together, -1.5 percentage point.
US yearly meat consumption per capita:
1950s: 138.2 lb; 2000: 195.2 lb
cheese, same period: 7.7 lb vs. 29.8 lb
added fats and oils, same period: 44.6 vs. 74.5
Source: http://www.usda.gov/factbook/chapter2.pdf0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.
Clearly eating low fat causes people to purchase Ataris!
I can see no other logical conclusion.
It's unfortunate the point will be missed by those most needing to see it though...0 -
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It seems to me that MFP just keeps getting more and more stupid
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I do have to admit the only real reason I even come to MFP is to laugh at woo and silly ideas0
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You missed ALL of the points being made.@DrawnToScale thank you
It's like arguing politics or religion. A closed mind has no room for argument.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.
Clearly eating low fat causes people to purchase Ataris!
I can see no other logical conclusion.
It's unfortunate the point will be missed by those most needing to see it though...
Sadly the Atari/Obesity link will go unnoticed by the main stream for yet another decade.0 -
ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »ceoverturf wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »DrawnToScale wrote: »The cattle that are "fattened" on grains these days are lean meat.
People have been eating grains for at least four million years. We haven't been in an obesity crisis for 4 million years.
Our obesity crisis started when we were all told to eat low fat, and eat "healthy whole grains". Eat less grain, and get thinner.
Which was also about the time Atari home video game systems became widespread.
Clearly eating low fat causes people to purchase Ataris!
I can see no other logical conclusion.
It's unfortunate the point will be missed by those most needing to see it though...
Sadly the Atari/Obesity link will go unnoticed by the main stream for yet another decade.
It's a conspiracy by that durn mainstream media0 -
Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.0 -
nicfitnesszone wrote: »Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.
Define "healthy"0 -
It's only healthy if your body doesn't react negatively to it.ceoverturf wrote: »nicfitnesszone wrote: »Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.
Define "healthy"
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Justygirl77 wrote: »
It's only healthy if your body doesn't react negatively to it.ceoverturf wrote: »nicfitnesszone wrote: »Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.
Define "healthy"
I tend to agree...I guess I'm wondering why refined grains would be less healthy if my body doesn't 'react negatively' to them.0 -
nicfitnesszone wrote: »Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.
On a personal level, medical conditions and total diet determine how healthy a food is, but I would agree with this as a general statement. When it comes to carbs, I firmly believe fiber is king.0 -
It's a matter of personal choice. I'm choosing to push foods that are refined or improperly processed further from my habits. The older you get, the more you realized how much you abused your body when you were younger. But as you get older, you don't rebound metabolically as well...your organs don't have the reserves to handle the abuse as much. You're more sensitive. It's a good thing, really. I'm teaching these habits to my children by example, and they like to mimic me. So they can have consistently good health for life.ceoverturf wrote: »Justygirl77 wrote: »
It's only healthy if your body doesn't react negatively to it.ceoverturf wrote: »nicfitnesszone wrote: »Grains are not created equal.
Whole grains are healthy.
Refined grains are less healthy.
Define "healthy"
I tend to agree...I guess I'm wondering why refined grains would be less healthy if my body doesn't 'react negatively' to them.
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