so confused. can use some experts to weigh in.

LolaKarwowski
LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Okay I am 5ft 7in and was 135 lbs which is in the normal range, but my goal is to lose ten pounds. MFP had to at 1510 call intake with the stationery setting (meaning I worked at a desk job or was a couch potatoe.) Okay, all good.

Except now I lost 3 pounds (yay!) And have 7 pounds left to go. Because I workout 3-4 times a week I changed my setting to lightly active. Now it's asking me to eat 1700 ish calories a day. Idk, this just seems off. I don't log in my strength training exercises, only my cardio so it might not be too bad...but I honestly don't know. Before I start eating more calories than before I need some input.
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  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    You need to stick with something for more than a week before adjusting. Stay at 1700 and eat back half your exercise calories for at least 2-4 weeks while weighing yourself every morning. Look at the long term trend on your weight. Is it going up or down the rate you want it? If not, then adjust.
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,868 Member
    Yes, just stick with your original setting of 1510 cal for 2 or 3 weeks ... even a month. See how it goes.

    Also, if you're an office worker, stay at sedentary. Then if you exercise, add your exercise on top of that. You can then eat back some of your exercise calories if you want.
  • veganbaum
    veganbaum Posts: 1,865 Member
    With MFP, your activity level is based on your daily life WITHOUT exercise. When you exercise, you log it. Then, you are supposed to eat those calories (though some people eat only 50-75% to account for inaccuracies).

    If you use MFP as it is designed, you would leave your setting at sedentary (according to you), then log in your exercise, then eat accordingly.

    If you want to account for your exercise up front, you are using the TDEE method. If you're going to do that, I would suggest you use an outside calculator and then manually change your calories in MFP. People often recommend http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/ .
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,646 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg

    ^^This.

    foo9n6m4g11t.gif

    (I made you a present Rabbit!!)
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Nony_Mouse wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg

    ^^This.

    foo9n6m4g11t.gif

    (I made you a present Rabbit!!)

    Ooo.....Cover me in chocolate and call me delighted

    :bigsmile:
  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    Pu_239 wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg

    I seen that picture many times, but it kind of implies she lost fat and increased muscle at the same time. Possibly she went through cycles of cutting/bulking Idk.

    But yes, right now the scale for me isn't being friendly, i got a tape measure and focus on what matters. How my physical body changes, no what the scale says, the scale doesn't matter much.

    ETA: this might benefit some people. So what i have been doing now is taking the moving average of my weight, I use that. Then i use my physical measurements(from the measuring tape) to estimate my body fat. This directly correlates physical body composition to scale weight. If your body measurements are getting smaller, and your scale weight is the same or going up, it's suggest your body fat is getting lower. What most of us want.

    Yes, this is pretty much what i am trying to do. I am also taking weekly pictures in case I get discouraged using the scale (which is my main tool at the moment).
  • gabrielleelliott90
    gabrielleelliott90 Posts: 854 Member
    Quite sure 135lb for 5 ft 7 isn't in the normal range.....more like underweight. I mean I'm 5'4 and I'm 131lb and I'm quite thin.....
  • PopeyeCT
    PopeyeCT Posts: 249 Member
    If you increased your activity level because you are exercising, then it lets you eat more calories.
    If you also log the exercise, then it gives you even more.

    You're taking double credit for your exercise. "Activity Level" is meant to be what you do throughout the day outside of the times your are exercising.
  • HealthyGinny
    HealthyGinny Posts: 821 Member
    Machka9 wrote: »
    Also, if you're an office worker, stay at sedentary. Then if you exercise, add your exercise on top of that. You can then eat back some of your exercise calories if you want.

    Agreed; you should enter sedentary if you're working a desk job so that if one week, you can't exercise, you won't have to recalculate everything. Just log in the exercise you do when you do it and eat some of those cals back.
  • maineapple
    maineapple Posts: 133 Member
    I don't know about what anyone else thinks, but that middle picture looks like a man to me. I can buy the two outer pictures being of the same person maybe, but I think the middle one is a hard sell in my opinion.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Quite sure 135lb for 5 ft 7 isn't in the normal range.....more like underweight. I mean I'm 5'4 and I'm 131lb and I'm quite thin.....

    I'm 5'6" and 135 is right in the middle of the healthy BMI for me.

    OP, as other have said, stick with the goals that have been working for you.
  • Arliah
    Arliah Posts: 266 Member
    edited May 2015
    Quite sure 135lb for 5 ft 7 isn't in the normal range.....more like underweight. I mean I'm 5'4 and I'm 131lb and I'm quite thin.....
    5.7 and 135 is within the normal BMI range, but, as rabbit pointed out, on the lower side. For some reason, some people think that they will look and feel better if they only got to the "almost underweight" range. Chances are though that once they get there, they will still feel fat until they start lifting and seeing changes in their bodies (yes, I know I am just repeating stuff here, but it's important stuff, so it's worth repeating :smile: )
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    edited May 2015
    Along with the pictures you can also track your measurements. The scale is not the only sign of progress. It's marathon, not a sprint. Give what you're doing time to work for you! :smiley:
  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    Along with the pictures you can also track your measurements. The scale is not the only sign of progress. It's marathon, not a sprint. Give what you're doing time to work for you! :smiley:

    Thank you all! Trust me my goal is not to look or be overweight. I truly do want to lose body fat + gain muscle. However, I do feel like losing at least ten pounds will be good for me! I'm going to have my gym take my measurements from now on. Either that, or I'll just learn to do it myself. I lift weights way more than I do cardio exercises (one hour weights, around 20 min of cardio) so I'm not just trying to run it all off. :) y'all are the best and as always I have learned so much. I'm very glad I asked this question.

  • sardelsa
    sardelsa Posts: 9,812 Member
    Quite sure 135lb for 5 ft 7 isn't in the normal range.....more like underweight. I mean I'm 5'4 and I'm 131lb and I'm quite thin.....
    Please keep in mind, everyone carries weight differently. I am 5'7" and maintain around 127-130. I am definitely not underweight
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg

    While I agree with the underlying principle you're trying to get across, those pictures aren't credible.
  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    sardelsa wrote: »
    Quite sure 135lb for 5 ft 7 isn't in the normal range.....more like underweight. I mean I'm 5'4 and I'm 131lb and I'm quite thin.....
    Please keep in mind, everyone carries weight differently. I am 5'7" and maintain around 127-130. I am definitely not underweight


    Here are some pictures (taken a few mins ago) that I hope will help. I'm truly not at all underweight.


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    6cjd1bmrjcoh.jpg

  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    It seems like you just want to build some muscle as opposed to lose weight. You can input your numbers into Scooby and set the goal for "gain muscle, lose fat" and start there if you want.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    Psychgrrl wrote: »
    It seems like you just want to build some muscle as opposed to lose weight. You can input your numbers into Scooby and set the goal for "gain muscle, lose fat" and start there if you want.

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    @psychgrrl This site is really confusing to me for some reason. I'm a bit of a newbie, so all the numbers are overwhelming. When I have time (I'm about to go to the gym) I'll study it a little more.

  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    How long have you been "strength training" and what do you do for strength training?

    And the activity setting in MFP is for pre exercise so put it back to sedentary...

  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    How long have you been "strength training" and what do you do for strength training?

    And the activity setting in MFP is for pre exercise so put it back to sedentary...

    I did.

    I have been strength training for about two weeks now. I just lift weights depending on what part of the body I am working out that day.

  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    SezxyStef wrote: »
    How long have you been "strength training" and what do you do for strength training?

    And the activity setting in MFP is for pre exercise so put it back to sedentary...

    I did.

    I have been strength training for about two weeks now. I just lift weights depending on what part of the body I am working out that day.
    @LolaKarwowski are you doing a structured program? like Stronglifts? if not what exercises at what reps/weights/sets

    strength training is heavy weights in sets of 3-5 with reps of 3-5 and those are hard fought reps.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited May 2015
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    So you have a BMI of 21 and are aiming for a BMI of 19.5
    which whilst both within the healthy range they are both low

    Is this just about scale weight or is it because you have some objective for how you want your body to look

    I only ask because I spent years obsessing about scale weight until I finally, torturously, worked out that it doesn't matter a jot ...what I really wanted was my body to look a certain way and that was done through musculature

    As an illustration see how this girls figure has got smaller, tighter and more shapely as her scale weight increased - this is down to building muscles

    q8px3utiyfvg.jpg

    While I agree with the underlying principle you're trying to get across, those pictures aren't credible.

    Don't know why you don't find them credible

    What about Staci from nerdfitness

    http://www.nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/

    progress.jpg

    girl-from-nerd-fitness-for-scale-article.png
  • MireyGal76
    MireyGal76 Posts: 7,334 Member
    I manually set my numbers... I am sedentary M-F and pretty active on the weekend (life as a single mom with kids)... so I looked at what my cals would be if I maintain at sedentary, and what my cals would be if I maintain at lightly active and added them up (5 x sedentary + 2 x l.a), then divided by 7 to get a slightly higher daily average.

    I log most of my exercise, but not all of my activity.

    Just curious... what rate of loss do you have your cals set to?
    With 7 pounds to go... I'm really hoping it's nothing higher than 1/2 pound a week. You're almost at goal... it's time to start shifting your view from that final number and being "done" to shifting to a "what do I do going forward".

    It's like stopping at a stop sign... you don't want to be going full tilt and then slam on the brakes you get to the stop sign, but rather apply the brakes in such a way that you roll to a comfortable stop (aka "maintenance). The slower you apply the brakes, the easier the stop is on everyone.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    edited May 2015
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Don't know why you don't find them credible

    That pic says the subject, between weight gain and recomp, put on 20 pounds of muscle, possibly more.

    That is EXTREMELY hard to, especially for a female. Not credible to me without actual evidence, sorry. Others are free to make up their own minds, of course! :drinker:

    Even if accurate, it is not something very many people are going to be able to do.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Don't know why you don't find them credible

    That pic says the subject, between weight gain and recomp, put on 20 pounds of muscle, possibly more.

    That is EXTREMELY hard to, especially for a female. Not credible to me without actual evidence, sorry. Others are free to make up their own minds, of course! :drinker:

    Even if accurate, it is not something very many people are going to be able to do.

    Yeah, I see what you're saying...from what I remember there were years between each shot ...If someone could find the original blog it would be great ...
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Don't know why you don't find them credible

    That pic says the subject, between weight gain and recomp, put on 20 pounds of muscle, possibly more.

    That is EXTREMELY hard to, especially for a female. Not credible to me without actual evidence, sorry. Others are free to make up their own minds, of course! :drinker:

    Even if accurate, it is not something very many people are going to be able to do.

    Yeah, I see what you're saying...from what I remember there were years between each shot ...If someone could find the original blog it would be great ...

    Ah, interesting! Ok, if there were literally "years" between shots, then I'd have to temper my scepticism. :smile:
  • LolaKarwowski
    LolaKarwowski Posts: 217 Member
    Imma be super honest now.. I just do what my husband tells me to do.

    Here is what I wrote down for the week.

    Saturday
    Bench Press - can only do the bar about 6-7 times (3 sets)
    Incline (can't remember which one this was) but I could not do the bar without my husband's help
    Flies - 12 reps w/30lbs, 5 reps with 50lbs (2x)
    Incline Press - 5-6 reps w/10lbs (I believe I was worn out by this point which is why he didn't have me do another rep)
    Lateral Bench Press - 5 reps w/10lbs.

    Sunday
    Leg/Squat Press Hack Squat - 10 reps w/o weights, 5 reps w/20lbs, 3 reps w/40lbs, 6 reps w/30lbs, 3 reps w/50 bs.
    Seated Leg Curl - 10 reps w/50lbs, 4 reps w/70lbs, 4 reps w/70lbs.
    Leg Extension - 10 reps w/70lbs, 8 reps w/90lbs, 2 reps w/110lbs, 8 reps w/90lbs.
    Leg Press - 12 reps w/warm up, 6 reps w/50lbs, 7 reps w/50lbs, 5 reps w/70lbs.

    Monday
    Military Press - 12 reps w/20lbs, 8 reps w/30lbs, 4 reps (barely) w/40lbs, 3 reps (w/husband's help) w/45lbs.
    Barbell Upright Rows - 10 reps w/20lbs, 6 reps w/30lbs, 7 reps (w/husband's help on last rep) w/30lbs.
    Lateral Raise - 7 reps w/30lbs (w/husband's help on last two), 10 reps w/30lbs (w/husband's help with 5 reps)
    Hammer Shoulder Press - 7 reps w/20lbs, 8 reps w/20lbs.
    Shrugs - 10 reps w/20lbs, 10 reps w/40lbs, 5 reps w/55lbs.


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