Does Apple cider vinegar actually help?

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  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    edited May 2015
    YayFoodYayFood wrote: »
    YayFoodYayFood wrote: »
    There is no one single magic portion or food that can be assigned to singlehandedly solve health problems.

    But jumping to yes or no conclusions as to whether a food, or lack of food, or dietary strategy, or whatever is effective for health or weight loss without looking at as much available information as possible isn't a good idea.

    I can't hyperlink or post the full text PDFs of these articles b/c the forum doesn't have a means for that, but here are the titles of relevant journals regarding vinegar that I have come across. You can search for the full texts if you have academic access to journal databases (best perk of being associated with a university).

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14694010
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20068289
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17712024
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16321601

    If anyone has any journal evidence of the contrary that I haven't yet come across, please share b/c I always like info from both sides of the story. Thanks

    Here is a link with at least an abstract to the first article title.
    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/27/1/281.long

    Here are additional articles
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7796781
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9630389
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16034360

    Here is a (short) full text of one of the articles... apparently it is postable
    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/11/2814.full.pdf

    I did a quick scan of the articles (at least the ones that weren't behind paywalls). Unfortunately all of these studies are very limited in scope (n<10-15). That means this information is very preliminary and a study with a larger population may find very little benefit. It is likely other factors could be confounding the results.

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  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
    When my wife was pregnant with our daughter, she took shots, or mixed up a drink of apple cider vinegar and water to help with heartburn she got at night.... it doesn't aid in weight loss, at all.
  • auntstephie321
    auntstephie321 Posts: 3,586 Member
    martyqueen52 wrote: »
    When my wife was pregnant with our daughter, she took shots, or mixed up a drink of apple cider vinegar and water to help with heartburn she got at night.... it doesn't aid in weight loss, at all.

    My mother does this too for heartburn and finds it helpful. She has not lost any weight during the same time, and takes it daily.
  • musicandarts
    musicandarts Posts: 187 Member
    Here is a (short) full text of one of the articles... apparently it is postable
    http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/30/11/2814.full.pdf

    In this article the blood glucose reduction was 4% with vinegar and 2% with placebo. This is a very small reduction. However, I do drink sugar-free lemonade/lime-ade to suppress my appetite.
  • AlayshaJ
    AlayshaJ Posts: 703 Member
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.
  • lulucitron
    lulucitron Posts: 366 Member
    It does work for getting the stink out of workout clothes!
  • Pammeycakes55
    Pammeycakes55 Posts: 108 Member
    AlayshaJ wrote: »
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    I totally agree with this. From what I'm reading, everyone's information is "inconclusive" . This article says one thing, while another article says another. What works for one person, may not work for someone else. From my experience, you can't believe EVERYTHING you read on the Internet....

    as one person put it:
    stevencloser wrote: »
    Authoritynutrition, despite its name, is not an authority on nutrition.
    SO, who do you believe?
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  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    snickerscharlie wrote: »
    Saryia wrote: »
    I read something about how apple cider vinegar can balance out your body's ph or something...don't quote me on this...supposedly drinking coffee, soda and juices can alter your ph, not sure how that's important or relevant.

    In any case...if you like the taste, it's really good! Dilute it with water, add cinnamon and a bit of honey and it tastes like apple pie.

    Apple cider vingear makes me feel really good when I drink it, I do feel like there might be some health benefits but I don't know what they are or if they're relevant to the everyday person already eating a healthy diet.
    *snip*

    Your body needs no 'help' to balance out its ph. You're not a swimming pool. ;)
    *snip*

    I'm totally stealing this! hahaha!! love it!! :smiley:
  • bpetrosky
    bpetrosky Posts: 3,911 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    AlayshaJ wrote: »
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    What does the research say?

    Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    Pammeycakes55 wrote: »
    AlayshaJ wrote: »
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    I totally agree with this. From what I'm reading, everyone's information is "inconclusive" . This article says one thing, while another article says another. What works for one person, may not work for someone else. From my experience, you can't believe EVERYTHING you read on the Internet....

    as one person put it:
    stevencloser wrote: »
    Authoritynutrition, despite its name, is not an authority on nutrition.
    SO, who do you believe?

    I believe in using this http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed and google scholar and seeing what the consensus of most of them seems to be.
    Studies. Articles can be ignored a lot of the time since they often don't even manage to properly talk about what the study even said. And then we've had this chocolate diet business going on where someone purposely published a completely bunk study to see how fast it would get published in news articles without fact checking.
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    bpetrosky wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    AlayshaJ wrote: »
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    What does the research say?

    Ring-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!
    Gering-ding-ding-ding-dingeringeding!

    LMAO!

  • martyqueen52
    martyqueen52 Posts: 1,120 Member
    http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/...ple-cider.html

    "Given the scientific implausability behind most of vinegar’s claims, not surprisingly, there is no scientific evidence that it has any medicinal properties. The FDA has even issued warning letters to nutraceutical companies selling apple cider vinegar products for making unsupportable claims that it reduces cholesterol levels or hardening of the arteries; lowers risks for heart disease, heart attacks or strokes; or is effective for conditions ranging from obesity to arthritis. Even the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine (NCCAM), a division of the National Institutes of Health specifically tasked to investigate natural or unconventional modalities, has found no studies to support vinegar. "

    "M.D. Anderson, according to Natural Standard Monograph (2007), also warns that theoretically, long-term use could diminish bone mineral density and interact with and increase the risk of toxicity of cardiac glycoside prescriptions, such as digoxin; and potentiate the potassium-lowering effects of insulin, laxatives and diuretics, such as Lasix. "

    http://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-n...egar-myth.aspx

    "Proponents of the health benefits of apple cider vinegar cite testimonials from people who believe that drinking apple cider vinegar has helped them, but is there any evidence to back up these claims?

    Alexa Schmitt, a clinical dietitian at Massachusetts General Hospital, says, "No." While a few studies have been conducted on the possible health benefits of apple cider vinegar, the number of people in these studies is typically small, and the evidence is not yet convincing. "We have to look at the science," says Schmitt. "One or two small studies is not enough to prove a benefit." ..... No evidence at all. Even Layne Norton and Alan Aragon blast this into oblivion and how stupid it is.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    http://altmedicine.about.com/od/applecidervinegardiet/a/Apple-Cider-Vinegar-Weight-Loss.htm
    Due to the lack of supporting research, apple cider vinegar cannot be recommended as a standard treatment for weight loss. If you're looking to lose weight, the National Institutes of Health recommends following a weight-management plan that pairs healthy eating with regular exercise.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    edited May 2015
    lulucitron wrote: »
    It does work for getting the stink out of workout clothes!

    I agree, vinegar (can be white vinegar) is a great laundry rinse aid, and there are lots of other practical household uses for it.

    HOUSEHOLD uses, like cleaning coffee pots.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    Due to the lack of supporting research, apple cider vinegar cannot be recommended as a standard treatment for weight loss. If you're looking to lose weight, the National Institutes of Health recommends following a weight-management plan that pairs healthy eating with regular exercise.

    Astonishing!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    edited May 2015
    AlayshaJ wrote: »
    Please do your own research. People on mpf always think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

    a lot of people who do their own "research" have no clue how to actually research...if people did know how to do actual research, the diet and fitness industry at large would be doomed.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    mamapeach910 wrote: »
    Due to the lack of supporting research, apple cider vinegar cannot be recommended as a standard treatment for weight loss. If you're looking to lose weight, the National Institutes of Health recommends following a weight-management plan that pairs healthy eating with regular exercise.

    Astonishing!

    It's ground breaking I tell you! :D
  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    I've been drinking apple cider vinegar mixed with water 2 x daily for ten years. I started drinking it because I read that it would prevent colds, and... I haven't had a cold for ten years. I've been informed there's no science that will support this, so I guess it must be some kind of magic. It hasn't had any effect on my weight though.
    Nor have my teeth fallen out (I drink it through a straw).

    Studies tend to be done on things companies can make lots of money on. As apple cider vinegar can't be patented, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any studies to prove anything one way or the other.

    However, as it costs about £2 per bottle, I would recommend trying it for yourself, and you'll soon discover if it has any benefits for you.
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  • centarix
    centarix Posts: 123 Member
    I will say this...I've taken ACV for sore throat, colds, GERD, and a few other things. It's way better than medicine and i do feel kinda better but i wouldn't say it helps in the weight loss department. I think of it as a great drink to improve your overall health. Plus it is better than sugary soft drinks or juices.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    I don't have any cavities and I sleep with socks on every night.

    Big industry can't make any money off my cavity prevention measure, so, there's no science to back up my claims, but you can pick a pair of socks up at the Dollar Tree and buy your way to dental health.
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member
    If you're still losing weight you're not "in a rut". Lol.
  • Justygirl77
    Justygirl77 Posts: 385 Member
    edited May 2015
    It may help with metabolism by helping to increase insulin sensitivity, and therefore glucose metabolism. I'm sure it has many other benefits as well. The way to take it is before a meal. I'm sure there are other uses and administrations, but that's the one I am familiar with. The dose I read about was 50g, if you use a food scale=-)
  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Chrysalid2014 wrote: »
    I've been drinking apple cider vinegar mixed with water 2 x daily for ten years. I started drinking it because I read that it would prevent colds, and... I haven't had a cold for ten years. I've been informed there's no science that will support this, so I guess it must be some kind of magic. It hasn't had any effect on my weight though.
    Nor have my teeth fallen out (I drink it through a straw).

    Studies tend to be done on things companies can make lots of money on. As apple cider vinegar can't be patented, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for any studies to prove anything one way or the other.

    However, as it costs about £2 per bottle, I would recommend trying it for yourself, and you'll soon discover if it has any benefits for you.

    There you have it people. I wonder why pharmacies still sell any cold medicine instead of apple cider vinegar. It's amazing how pretty much any topic on here that has no real backing, you're always defending.

    Hmm... let's see... could it possibly be because... they make shedloads of money selling cold medications?

    Americans spent $4.2 billion on nonprescription cough and cold remedies in 2011, according to the Consumer Healthcare Products Association.
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  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    mamapeach910 wrote: »
    I don't have any cavities and I sleep with socks on every night.

    Big industry can't make any money off my cavity prevention measure, so, there's no science to back up my claims, but you can pick a pair of socks up at the Dollar Tree and buy your way to dental health.

    Funny. But that would only be a comparable example if you used to get cavities two or three times a year before you started wearing your socks to bed.
  • Chrysalid2014
    Chrysalid2014 Posts: 1,038 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    I wear boxers every day, I've never been hit by lighting. Boxers ward off lightning strikes.

    If you had been hit by lightning twice yearly your entire life, and then those lightning strikes abruptly ceased once you started wearing your boxers, then I'd say you might be on to something.
    Particularly if other people, unconnected to you, also reported the same thing.

    Or perhaps you'd wait for Fruit of the Loom to sponsor a study on it before you mentioned to others that it might be a good idea to try wearing boxers during a thunderstorm.
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