Skinny vegan trying to gain muscle
mcordero1206
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Hi! I am 21, been vegan for almost two years now. I've always been skinny but since making the change I've become more conscious of my diet choices. I would like to put on lean muscle show the world it is possible to gain muscle without killing anyone. Are there any vegan athletes on here that could offer me some advice on what foods to eat to get the caloric surplus I need?
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This might help: http://www.nomeatathlete.com/gain-weight-vegan/0
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For some inspiration, this massively muscular NHL player is a vegan.
(He's retired now and runs a vegetarian restaurant in Montreal)
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/vegan_athlete_georges-laraque-vegan-ice-hockey-player0 -
PlumpKitten wrote: »For some inspiration, this massively muscular NHL player is a vegan.
(He's retired now and runs a vegetarian restaurant in Montreal)
http://www.greatveganathletes.com/vegan_athlete_georges-laraque-vegan-ice-hockey-player
He became a vegan long after becoming muscular.0 -
StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
Whey isn't vegan. To gain weight and put on muscle, you're going to need to be on a progressive lifting program, and eat in a surplus (see the sticky in this section for good info).
Here's a list of calorie dense food. It's not all vegan, but work with the foods you can eat:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods0 -
You know veganism is defined as "a person who does not eat or use animal products". Whey is an animal product. So whey is off limits.StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
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StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
dont do this
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StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
It isn't vegan, and yes the dairy industry does involve killing. The moms get killed when they no longer are profitable, long before the end of their natural lifespan. In order for them to continue producing milk, they also must get pregnant and give birth over and over again, females don't just spontaneously produce milk they need to get rid of! The children get taken away and sent to slaughter. Where do you think veal comes from??
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Eat plenty of beans, tofu, nuts/seeds, seitan for protein. If you want to supplement there are a variety of plant based protein powders (soy, rice, pea). For extra calories to reach a surplus, also include avocado, grains, starchy veggies like sweet potatoes, cook with olive oil, plus plenty of fruits and veggies.0
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As long as you aren't sensitive to gluten, seitan is a very concentrated vegan source of protein, and easy to make at home. Look for recipes that involve baking it rather than simmering; the simmering method is much trickier.0
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vinegar_husbands wrote: »StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
I call BS. Cows are forcibly kept pregnant to produce milk and their offspring are killed for veal. Dairy cows are also killed when their milk supply is deemed unsubstantial.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/learn/factory-farming/dairy/
Wow, the dairy farmers I know back home will be interested to know this is how they're supposed to do business. You know, since they don't actually do it this way.0 -
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You should join the Happy Herbivores group on this site (https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/45-happy-herbivores), you'll be able to talk to other vegan athletes there.
I second checking out the No Meat Athlete site too, I've found really good information there.0 -
hollydubs85 wrote: »vinegar_husbands wrote: »StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
I call BS. Cows are forcibly kept pregnant to produce milk and their offspring are killed for veal. Dairy cows are also killed when their milk supply is deemed unsubstantial.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/learn/factory-farming/dairy/
Wow, the dairy farmers I know back home will be interested to know this is how they're supposed to do business. You know, since they don't actually do it this way.
I'm curious what part of this you think is incorrect? Do you think the cows just magically produce breast milk without having a baby? That a farm would wait around for the cow to take the initiative to mate instead of inseminating them at the right time to keep milk production going strong? That a dairy farm is going to actually let a cow raise her own baby and feed him/her the milk that is supposed to be sold to humans? That farmers can afford to keep herds of male dairy calves and aging female dairy calves roaming around the farm taking up valuable space and eating valuable feed while living to the ripe old age of 20? Of course not, they make veal from the male babies, new dairy cows from the female babies, keep mom on a pregnancy/birth cycle that optimizes milk production, then turn her into meat as soon as she is no longer turning a profit. There probably are some smaller farmers who try to do all these things in as humane a way as possible but if they aren't basically operating this way, they are not going to make a profit.0 -
vinegar_husbands wrote: »hollydubs85 wrote: »vinegar_husbands wrote: »StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
I call BS. Cows are forcibly kept pregnant to produce milk and their offspring are killed for veal. Dairy cows are also killed when their milk supply is deemed unsubstantial.
http://www.farmsanctuary.org/learn/factory-farming/dairy/
Wow, the dairy farmers I know back home will be interested to know this is how they're supposed to do business. You know, since they don't actually do it this way.
Perhaps it's because the dairy farmers you knew were small-time dairy farmers and weren't suppliers to mass corporations...?
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If you do decide you want to add a protein powder to your diet--try Ka'Chava. I like it because it is vegan and tastes pretty good, too.0
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If you actually are interested in trying protein powders, there are other kinds, non-dairy, to suit your vegan lifestyle. I personally use a mix of whey/casein, but whey is by far not the only kind of protein powder in the world!
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/10-best-tasting-vegan-protein-powders.html0 -
I have a dairy free shake available that's all natural, gluten free, stimulant free and low glycemic. Message me on Facebook at Telisa Shumaker Prinsen and I'll give you more product info. Right now there's only one dairy free flavor, but I think there will be another one available soon. Awesome no compromise products. Do your homework before you purchase products!-4
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veganbodybuilding.com/?page=articles
There are several articles on this page about nutrition and protein for vegans.0 -
StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
No offense but I don't agree with your statement. Whey is a byproduct of milk which still constitutes as offensive to the vegan lifestyle. Secondly, not only are the mother cows killed, they are also artificially inseminated in order to produce the milk. They're not magic, they don't produce milk without hormone stimulation. In other words, they are raped all their lives until they're killed for meat and leather.
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Thank you all for your advice! I will be taking into consideration all of your suggestions! You guys are awesome!0
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MakePeasNotWar wrote: »As long as you aren't sensitive to gluten, seitan is a very concentrated vegan source of protein, and easy to make at home. Look for recipes that involve baking it rather than simmering; the simmering method is much trickier.
I have been looking into seitan. One of my favorite vegan restaurants have so many options on their menu using seitan, including their famous pocket gyro. SOOO GOOD haha. I'll definitely see if I can make my own! Thanks!0 -
You should join the Happy Herbivores group on this site (https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/45-happy-herbivores), you'll be able to talk to other vegan athletes there.
I second checking out the No Meat Athlete site too, I've found really good information there.
Yeah I'm also a member on that site, thank you!
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StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
Whey isn't vegan. To gain weight and put on muscle, you're going to need to be on a progressive lifting program, and eat in a surplus (see the sticky in this section for good info).
Here's a list of calorie dense food. It's not all vegan, but work with the foods you can eat:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods
That list is super helpful! Thanks a lot! Is lifting necessary to put on gains? I currently stick to a body weight regimen as I'm trying to condtion myself for martial arts. Is it possible to still gain if I'm eating enough but doing only calisthenics?0 -
get in protein eat at a surplus of maintenance and do a progressive load weight program...simple. Vegan or not.
I can't help with the foods but the progressive load....
There are lots of programs out there...
Stronglifts
New rules of lifting
starting strength
and yes you have to lift something...
I am my own gym is a good one you just have to do a progressive load meaning once it becomes some what easy add to it...
5 chins ups too easy do 10
50 pushups too easy add a weighted belt etc...
Adding muscle takes time and lots of food and weights...facts of a bulk.0 -
Eat more than your body needs to maintain + lift heavy = gain muscle. Done.0
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mcordero1206 wrote: »StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
Whey isn't vegan. To gain weight and put on muscle, you're going to need to be on a progressive lifting program, and eat in a surplus (see the sticky in this section for good info).
Here's a list of calorie dense food. It's not all vegan, but work with the foods you can eat:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods
That list is super helpful! Thanks a lot! Is lifting necessary to put on gains? I currently stick to a body weight regimen as I'm trying to condtion myself for martial arts. Is it possible to still gain if I'm eating enough but doing only calisthenics?
The key is progressive resistance; you need to continually push yourself further. It's a little more complicated with calisthenics, but it's possible. Look up "you are your own gym" (I think they have an app as well) and "convict conditioning".
I haven't tried either of those two programs, but I see them recommended a lot.0 -
StrongAsFuarkBear wrote: »eat whey protein. whey is a byproduct of milk processing. milking is not killing, otherwise every baby is killing their mom (breastfeeding). Milk cows don't get killed for meat.
Whey isn't Vegan
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I would check out the Vege line of supplements. Their products use a mixture of plant based protein sources to make "complete" protein.0
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