Porridge/Oatmeal
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userfriendly2 wrote: »@livingleanlivingclean There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
Well, I'm not going to go into the whole low-carb thing, but I will say this. I work out fasted.
Why?
If I eat before working out? I will throw up.
My trainer, who is far more "serious" about training than I am, does the same.
A lot of people train fasted, and have plenty of glycogen stores to tap to see them through.
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Every morning I eat 1/4 cup of steel coat oats mixed with a 5.3 oz container of plain, nonfat Greek yogurt and around 1/2 cup of unsweetened vanilla almond milk. I also use blueberries/strawberries and a little bit of honey for sweetness. It's a pretty satisfying breakfast without all of the added processed sugar. The fiber in the oats and protein from the yogurt keeps my hunger down until lunch time.0
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mamapeach910 wrote: »userfriendly2 wrote: »@livingleanlivingclean There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
Well, I'm not going to go into the whole low-carb thing, but I will say this. I work out fasted.
Why?
If I eat before working out? I will throw up.
My trainer, who is far more "serious" about training than I am, does the same.
A lot of people train fasted, and have plenty of glycogen stores to tap to see them through.
Yep. When I used to run in the morning (need to get back to this, as I prefer it to running in the evening) I couldn't eat before. I'd often have oatmeal after running (and often have eggs instead), but there was no difficulty in simply relying on the carbs I'd had the night before. And I did generally find having some carbs with dinner made me feel more energetic when running in the morning, although it's quite possible that's just psychological.
Now if I workout in the morning it's usually weights, and I do like to eat before--I like to eat first thing in the morning anyway when possible because I like it, not because I think it matters for weight loss. But I have a vegetable omelet rather than the oatmeal more often than not (often with fruit or dairy on the side, granted), and despite it being much lower carb it doesn't seem to matter to my performance at all.
Quite possible I'm just not sufficiently elite, of course, but most here are not, and from my perusal of what various elite athletes eat it seems to me there's really quite a variety.
Oatmeal is super easy and tasty, though, so I'm all in favor. I usually prefer the texture of steel cut, but have some rolled oats from the farmer's market I've been meaning to try.0 -
smotheredincheese wrote: »I love porridge, I used to have it for breakfast everyday but had to stop because it made me so hungry. I know it's supposed to be a slow release energy food and keep you full for longer, but it seemed to have the opposite effect on me. Days when I have porridge for breakfast I'm so hungry by 11am that food is all I can think about, but if I have pretty much anything else for breakfast I stay full right up to lunchtime. I really don't understand it.
I'm on my morning snack before 11am. I eat breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, snack.0 -
1/3 cup quaker minute oats, 2/3 scoop quest chocolate milkshake, T crunchy pb.0
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livingleanlivingclean wrote: »userfriendly2 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »
There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.userfriendly2 wrote: »
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
That's a nice lot of assumptions and generalisations. Well done. I won't bother to even correct you or explain myself as you're clearly knowledgeable about every single person and sport on the planet.
Apology accepted ;-)
[/quote]livingleanlivingclean wrote: »userfriendly2 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »
There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.userfriendly2 wrote: »
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
That's a nice lot of assumptions and generalisations. Well done. I won't bother to even correct you or explain myself as you're clearly knowledgeable about every single person and sport on the planet.
Apology accepted ;-)
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Nice try. I don't see the point in arguing with someone who can't accept that anything but their own way could possibly work. [/quote]
Ok well this is getting very awkward, and apparently there has been some sort of miscommunication. In your original response to my first post you argued that there is "absolutely no reason someone who is serious about training should eat porridge in the morning"
To me this comment stinks of someone who is narrow minded and set in their own ways; an affliction you are trying to say I have - Not true. I would never in any of my wotk adopt a one size fits all approach. My main arguement with you was your over the top belligerent response. Intermittent fasting works for some people and not for others. Oats agree with some people and not with others. I posted a thread to convey my passion for this fuel source and how it is beneficial to anyone who is serious about there training. You chose to post a reply in the effort to strongly convey your opinion in the hope of starting an arguement. In a community where we all try to share experiences, ideas and bring everybody up to their highest level through friendly conversation, you seem to choose arguements and opinionated, narrow mindedness over anything that remotely resembles the core values on which this community is built on.
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I feel like I'm the only one who doesnt eat oatmeal. Its just doesnt have enough volume for my liking, and to make it a balanced meal, it needs so much stuff added to it. In the end it ends up being like 4-500 calories for a decent portion. Id rather eat something else that fills me up more I guess0
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I like raw oats in yoghurt with honey...does that make me weird?0
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annette_15 wrote: »I feel like I'm the only one who doesnt eat oatmeal. Its just doesnt have enough volume for my liking, and to make it a balanced meal, it needs so much stuff added to it. In the end it ends up being like 4-500 calories for a decent portion. Id rather eat something else that fills me up more I guess
I like oatmeal and usually have it a couple times a week, but I eat eggs a lot more often.0 -
userfriendly2 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »userfriendly2 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »
There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.userfriendly2 wrote: »
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
That's a nice lot of assumptions and generalisations. Well done. I won't bother to even correct you or explain myself as you're clearly knowledgeable about every single person and sport on the planet.
Apology accepted ;-)livingleanlivingclean wrote: »userfriendly2 wrote: »livingleanlivingclean wrote: »
There is absolutely no reason that anyone, regardless of how "serious" they are about their training, needs to have this type of meal first thing. If that's what you like, go for it. Personally I feel better avoiding food first thing, and eating lower carb meals unless around training.... Which for me happens at night.userfriendly2 wrote: »
There is no reason??
I could list a million reasons why someone serious about their training should fuel up on a meal like this and that all depends on the person and their individual training plan. Anyone who needs the slow release low GI carbs from this meal in the morning to give them the energy they need to get them up and ready for work/training will see only benefits from this unless they have an oat intolerance etc..
You should step into my world and play a competitive football match for 80mins on your lower carb diet while your body is in a ketogenic state.. Be humorous to see how well you perform...
If you yourself are an advocate of the ketogenic diet or for some reason prefer to delay the onset of glycolysis by avoiding carbs then thats perferct if it suits you, but there is no added advantage to this style of dieting over one with a basic macro layout of 50 20 30, - but for most people who are "serious" they don't train at night time and judging by most of my friends on MFP - they don't either, going by their times that they update their exercise diary.
Most sports athletes professional and amateur also don't train at night and most sporting events; matches and games etc also happen around midday - globally!
I don usually entertain vomments like yours in the first place given the fact it comes across as trolling and belligerent but the sheer ignorance of saying there is no reason to eat a meal like that is just mind bafflingly ridiculous and typical of someone who has jumped onto the latest craze of intermittent fasting and believes that nothing else will work except for their "revolutionary" diet plan
That's a nice lot of assumptions and generalisations. Well done. I won't bother to even correct you or explain myself as you're clearly knowledgeable about every single person and sport on the planet.
Apology accepted ;-)
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Nice try. I don't see the point in arguing with someone who can't accept that anything but their own way could possibly work. [/quote]
Ok well this is getting very awkward, and apparently there has been some sort of miscommunication. In your original response to my first post you argued that there is "absolutely no reason someone who is serious about training should eat porridge in the morning"
To me this comment stinks of someone who is narrow minded and set in their own ways; an affliction you are trying to say I have - Not true. I would never in any of my wotk adopt a one size fits all approach. My main arguement with you was your over the top belligerent response. Intermittent fasting works for some people and not for others. Oats agree with some people and not with others. I posted a thread to convey my passion for this fuel source and how it is beneficial to anyone who is serious about there training. You chose to post a reply in the effort to strongly convey your opinion in the hope of starting an arguement. In a community where we all try to share experiences, ideas and bring everybody up to their highest level through friendly conversation, you seem to choose arguements and opinionated, narrow mindedness over anything that remotely resembles the core values on which this community is built on.
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Contradictions, again.
I was merely stating that your enthusiasm over oats being a beneficial breakfast for anyone "serious" about training wasn't justified. You've stated yourself that everyone is different, so no, oats are not required or necessarily beneficial for everyone who is serious about training. I wasn't trying to start an argument, the aim was simply to suggest that there are alternatives for those who don't want to chow down on a bowl of oats every day.0 -
My absolute go to meal. Its cheap as well. Awesome stuff. Btw you lot that have it with water, I really dont know why.
Lol@ the cripplefight.0 -
When I make oats on the stove top just as I take it off the burner I'll whip in an egg white or the whole egg. Just keep whipping for a good minute.
Also that's good info on the slow release and why it doesn't keep me full very long. I wake up starving so I make a small quick bowl of 1/4 cup oats, 1/2 T of chia, frozen blueberries at the end and a drizzle of pure maple syrup. My favorite is to add PB but now I save that for my after work out shake.0 -
I love oatmeal too but I don't like absolutes. And there's nothing wrong with any fruit, fructose or glucose, even the ones with fewer antioxidants.0
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Everyone thinks I'm strange for eating quick oats raw but I love mixing a bit of vanilla yogurt wth fresh berries and a few almonds with quick oats . or oats and raisins and cinnamon with quick oats and a little Yogurt ..and on and on! Ok now I'm hungry again!!I went through a stage liking it, but eating sweet things for breakfast makes me feel sick and i always prefer something savory.
I like them with just water and salt then cooked for 15 min till very soft.
Otherwise il only eat for dessert
Actaully i much prefer quick cook oats, eaten raw like cereal, mix in some dessicated coconut and honey.
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