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Best cardio/weight loss machines at the gym

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  • Posts: 5,446 Member

    So you're suggesting that people lose weight faster than what is already recommended to them?

    The entire point of the MFP system is that you've already developed a calorie defecit to lose the appropriate amount of weight. Any greater deficit you develop from exercise should be eaten back.

    If you're using TDEE, then exercise does not create a greater deficit at all.

    Exercise should be seen as a recreational activity - something you do for fun (because if it's not fun, you won't do it for long) or to develop your fitness and physical health.

    However, if you wanted to make your original point that you can use it to lose weight faster, you should have said that in the first place, instead of bouncing around from irrelevant point to irrelevant point.

    Cardio is a great thing and everyone should do it regardless of age, gender, physical capacity, or whatever. However, you should already be eating the appropriate amount to lose weight at a healthy rate and if you add in exercise, you should be fueling yourself appropriately for the exercise - not to lose weight.

    Oh, and you still can't spot reduce.

    What? I didn't encourage the OP, specifically, to lose faster.

    If you can't see the relevance of the points I made, well I'm sorry (for you) but that's not my problem.

    What does spot reduction have to do with anything?
  • Posts: 15,357 Member
    TR0berts wrote: »


    Not quite the same - that poster is also talking about spot-reduction.

    So, just a big fat "NO" on that one. Big fat "YES" to the previous others.

    Doh! Should have actually read the reply all the way through.
  • Posts: 18,948 Member
    Hello all,

    I have just started going to the gym (for the first time ever) and I have no idea what machines I should be using to lose my unwanted love handles.

    I have been starting with a 20min run, then a 20min row and then a 20min cycle.

    Is it good to mix them up, or stay on one for longer periods?

    Any help for a gym newbie would be great!

    It's pretty good to mix them up, but an hour of cardio can be too much for a newbie. Just make sure you are consuming enough calories to refuel your body AND do some strength training to maintain muscle mass.
  • Posts: 4,391 Member
    edited June 2015
    tomatoey wrote: »

    What? I didn't encourage the OP, specifically, to lose faster.

    If you can't see the relevance of the points I made, well I'm sorry (for you) but that's not my problem.

    What does spot reduction have to do with anything?

    Relevance:

    She said: "You will loose weight much faster by the longer and harder your cardio workouts are!"

    I said: "Exercise doesn't make you lose weight." (as in, eating properly does and exercise will not fix a bad diet).

    You said: "It isn't wrong for some people. Cardio can help regulate appetite in some people and it does give a margin of error for food. And increasing resistance does call on muscle work."

    So, where's the relevance?

    Let me break it down to simple terms:

    She said: "Exercise makes you lose weight."

    I said: "Exercise doesn't make you lose weight."

    You said: "Exercise helps you with eating food."

    So yeah, obviously eating food has something to do with how much weight you can lose, but if you focus on exercise alone, it will not make you lose weight.




    On the other half:

    She said: "weight training, while you don't burn as many calories, you can do some more work on focused areas like your love handles, toning those areas and making them look good!"

    I said: "You cannot spot tone and lose fat in specific locations."

    You said: "increasing resistance does call on muscle work."

    I think that one is fairly self-explanatory.




    Besides, I thought you were done being butthurt?





    ETA: I didn't say you did suggest the OP should lose weight faster.
  • Posts: 5,446 Member
    edited June 2015

    Relevance:

    She said: "You will loose weight much faster by the longer and harder your cardio workouts are!"

    I said: "Exercise doesn't make you lose weight." (as in, eating properly does and exercise will not fix a bad diet).

    You said: "It isn't wrong for some people. Cardio can help regulate appetite in some people and it does give a margin of error for food. And increasing resistance does call on muscle work."

    So, where's the relevance?

    Let me break it down to simple terms:

    She said: "Exercise makes you lose weight."

    I said: "Exercise doesn't make you lose weight."

    You said: "Exercise helps you with eating food."

    So yeah, obviously eating food has something to do with how much weight you can lose, but if you focus on exercise alone, it will not make you lose weight.




    On the other half:

    She said: "weight training, while you don't burn as many calories, you can do some more work on focused areas like your love handles, toning those areas and making them look good!"

    I said: "You cannot spot tone and lose fat in specific locations."

    You said: "increasing resistance does call on muscle work."

    I think that one is fairly self-explanatory.




    Besides, I thought you were done being butthurt?





    ETA: I didn't say you did suggest the OP should lose weight faster.

    Dude. Stop putting words in my mouth and please read the things I actually wrote. "but if you focus on exercise alone, it will not make you lose weight." I said nothing like this, I have no idea where you're getting this from.

    Resistance does call on muscle work. I said nothing about "spot reduction".

    I suggest you drop your condescending tone. You're not able to back it up with reading comp skillz
  • Posts: 4,391 Member
    tomatoey wrote: »

    Dude. Stop putting words in my mouth and please read the things I actually wrote. "but if you focus on exercise alone, it will not make you lose weight." I said nothing like this, I have no idea where you're getting this from.

    Resistance does call on muscle work. I said nothing about "spot reduction".

    I suggest you drop your condescending tone. You're not able to back it up with reading comp skillz

    Those weren't your words, they were mine. See the quotes around what you said, that's what you said. I was summarizing what I just said.

    No one said it didn't. However, she insinuated that it can spot reduce. I said it could. Then you jumped in in what appeared to be a defense of the OP, so it is easy to put two and two together.

    It's funny you say such things, because if you had the "skillz" you speak of, you would be doing more than just bitching about what I'm writing and actually come up with something solid to back your defense, instead of just jumping around from point to point and accusing me of things I clearly haven't done.








    Besides, I thought you were done being butthurt and you were leaving this conversation?
  • Posts: 1,316 Member
    Hello all,

    I have just started going to the gym (for the first time ever) and I have no idea what machines I should be using to lose my unwanted love handles.

    I have been starting with a 20min run, then a 20min row and then a 20min cycle.

    Is it good to mix them up, or stay on one for longer periods?

    Any help for a gym newbie would be great!

    Fat comes off when you burn off those calories you didn't eat!!

    I love the old chain drive stair master on intervals. I do the 20 minute interval twice if I'm feeling froggy!

    My encouragement would be to log your food very accurately and then work it hard

    The MFP App is very helpful. Love the food log. I lost 75 before finding the App. It would have been easier if I had it all along.

    Best wishes
  • Posts: 840 Member
    Those are all good cardio workouts, I would recommend doing an hour per day on one of them vice rotating every 20 minutes. An hour of rowing is pretty brutal, probably keep that one to 30 minutes. I'd also suggest adding some strength training.
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