@USATODAY: #BREAKING FDA will require food companies to phase out trans fats

Acg67
Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
edited November 20 in Food and Nutrition
Yay! Government overreach.

Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?
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  • discretekim
    discretekim Posts: 314 Member
    I'm a fan. The problem is there are a lot of products that have less than half a gram and list zero. When if you look at the ingredients there are obviously some. This is deceptive and I shouldn't have to look at the ingredients to figure this out. End rant.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    I can dig it.
  • zyxst
    zyxst Posts: 9,149 Member
    But my trans fat experience!
    tumblr_inline_mzwxkr14tG1s4v4p9.gif
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    if this all goes down that path, I want someone to explain the 3 sea shells before I abandon my charmin.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    _John_ wrote: »
    if this all goes down that path, I want someone to explain the 3 sea shells before I abandon my charmin.

    I'm ready for taco bell fine dining
  • discretekim
    discretekim Posts: 314 Member
    edited June 2015
    _John_ wrote: »
    if this all goes down that path, I want someone to explain the 3 sea shells before I abandon my charmin.
    Haha! I'm glad I'm not the only one obsessed with this! I don't even remember the movie. But I think of those sea shells at least monthly.
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    I'm a fan. The problem is there are a lot of products that have less than half a gram and list zero. When if you look at the ingredients there are obviously some. This is deceptive and I shouldn't have to look at the ingredients to figure this out. End rant.

    Then petition to change labeling laws?

  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    Hey! Why all the trans hate?

    *fist in the air for all my LGBT brothers and sisters*
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    So ban beef, esp grass-fed beef due to Trans fats?
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    Do they make them cause they are allowed are because it's profitable to do so? If you made it unprofitable ie it didn't sell well, they'd stop
  • discretekim
    discretekim Posts: 314 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    So ban beef, esp grass-fed beef due to Trans fats?

    I don't think they are talking about naturally occurring trans fats. For one they aren't even bad for you, and may be beneficial. But added man made trans fats are all bad and shouldn't be eaten.
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    So ban beef, esp grass-fed beef due to Trans fats?

    I don't think they are talking about naturally occurring trans fats. For one they aren't even bad for you, and may be beneficial. But added man made trans fats are all bad and shouldn't be eaten.

    If I assemble the molecule in a lab, it's poison?

    If I grow it in a cow, it's manna from heaven?

    Gotcha....
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    So ban beef, esp grass-fed beef due to Trans fats?

    I don't think they are talking about naturally occurring trans fats. For one they aren't even bad for you, and may be beneficial. But added man made trans fats are all bad and shouldn't be eaten.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0009434

  • discretekim
    discretekim Posts: 314 Member
    So I was about to tell you to do research but I read mine wrong. Naturally occurring are just not nearly as bad. They still have some risks. But man made are much worse. And they shouldn't be eaten and I think labeling is deceptive.
  • jaxass
    jaxass Posts: 2,128 Member
    Our government...pathetic!
  • healthygreek
    healthygreek Posts: 2,137 Member
    I'm thrilled about this!!!!
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,646 Member
    anything that gets McDonalds to start frying their fries in lard again...the way God intended to cook fries.
  • ahamm002
    ahamm002 Posts: 1,690 Member
    edited June 2015
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    mccindy72 wrote: »
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    In this case, I'm kind of on the bandwagon. Trans fats aren't good for you. They aren't the same as saturated fats, which do have their positive place in the body's food chain.

    And no, humanity has proven that it cannot choose products that don't contain trans fats. Companies have proven they will continue to make them if they are allowed.

    So ban beef, esp grass-fed beef due to Trans fats?

    I don't think they are talking about naturally occurring trans fats. For one they aren't even bad for you, and may be beneficial. But added man made trans fats are all bad and shouldn't be eaten.

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0009434

    From your own link:
    "CLA is a minor animal trans fatty acid. The effect of dietary CLA on cholesterol will be negligible if we assume that our model is correct."
  • hgycta
    hgycta Posts: 3,013 Member
    I think it'd be great if they did this since trans fat has been proven to be so harmful and companies are often secretive about foods they add it to. That being said, I'm not getting excited just yet; they've been trying to phase them out for a long time now! It's really up to the companies to remove them, which some have been doing and I praise them for that!
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Yay! Government overreach.

    Do people have no ability to choose products that contain or don't contain Trans fats?

    They do for now.
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  • j75j75
    j75j75 Posts: 854 Member
    we have all been knowingly and unknowingly consuming for so long now the damage is done
    what does it matter?

    For the future generations, yes.

    In the article I shared above, it says that the Professor who first discovered that trans fats are bad for us conducted an experiment with rats. When they were fed trans fats they developed atherosclerosis, once the trans fats were removed from their diet it disappeared from their arteries.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    we have all been knowingly and unknowingly consuming for so long now the damage is done
    what does it matter?

    For the future generations, yes.

    I guess all the people who quit smoking should start up again too, eh?
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    So I was about to tell you to do research but I read mine wrong. Naturally occurring are just not nearly as bad. They still have some risks. But man made are much worse. And they shouldn't be eaten and I think labeling is deceptive.
    Just like sugar is sugar, trans fat is trans fat. It doesn't matter where it came from initially.

    However, what does matter is the overall amount of trans fat (and sugar) in the diet. Manufacturers will gleefully add substances that appeal to the palate in order to increase sales.

    I'm all for increased labeling requirements. I'm not a fan of banning anything outright but the FDA didn't ask me how I felt about it.
  • Eudoxy
    Eudoxy Posts: 391 Member
    How is that government overreach? If it's not safe to eat, that's the fda doing its job.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    Eudoxy wrote: »
    How is that government overreach? If it's not safe to eat, that's the fda doing its job.

    Context and dosage do not matter

    so in your opinion the government should phase out/ban anything that is not safe to eat without taking dosage into account? So ban all food and drink?
  • Eudoxy
    Eudoxy Posts: 391 Member
    edited June 2015
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  • Eudoxy
    Eudoxy Posts: 391 Member
    Acg67 wrote: »
    Eudoxy wrote: »
    How is that government overreach? If it's not safe to eat, that's the fda doing its job.

    Context and dosage do not matter

    so in your opinion the government should phase out/ban anything that is not safe to eat without taking dosage into account? So ban all food and drink?

    No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is potentially harmful enough to do so in this case. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.

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