@USATODAY: #BREAKING FDA will require food companies to phase out trans fats
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Yes. Ban all food and drink. The Nanny State knows best. Resistance is futile.
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No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...0 -
If we're not going to require labels on menu items with trans in them, I'm ok with the phase out.
Either or....
But then, I'm also ok with banning smoking in restaurants, so what do I know?0 -
For me the problem is that the ****'s everywhere, including places no sane person would guess. I mean, seriously, WTF are trans fats doing in a Dunkin Donuts frozen coffee?!
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No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...
Cigarettes are a bit different. Only people 18+ can buy cigarettes, in a perfect world at least lol. Children everywhere are ingesting trans fats though. Don't get me wrong, the responsibility of what children eat does fall on the parents, to a point. But most adults don't know as much as they should about nutrition. And as Mr_Knight said, trans fats are everywhere, it's hard to avoid them unless you are diligent about it. That's why 2/3 of US adults are overweight and 1/3 of US children are overweight, not to mention heart disease is the #1 killer in America. So what's a nation to do? Just watch it's citizens continue to get fatter, the cost of dealing with heart disease continue to rise? It's done that for decades...0 -
Depends.
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From The Atlantic today:If you like food that’s chewy and juicy and cheap and not spoiled, there are new synthetic ingredients introduced all the time to accomplish these ends.
A few may prove harmful to our health eventually, and we’ll figure that out and introduce a ban over the course of decades, at first in practice, with dollars and stomachs, and then, once industry lobbying is minimal enough to be overcome, federal agencies will take credit for protecting consumer well-being, and that’s the way things tend to work.
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No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...
Cigarettes are a bit different. Only people 18+ can buy cigarettes, in a perfect world at least lol. Children everywhere are ingesting trans fats though. Don't get me wrong, the responsibility of what children eat does fall on the parents, to a point. But most adults don't know as much as they should about nutrition. And as Mr_Knight said, trans fats are everywhere, it's hard to avoid them unless you are diligent about it. That's why 2/3 of US adults are overweight and 1/3 of US children are overweight, not to mention heart disease is the #1 killer in America. So what's a nation to do? Just watch it's citizens continue to get fatter, the cost of dealing with heart disease continue to rise? It's done that for decades...
So trans fats are everywhere = rising obesity? Interesting0 -
No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...
Cigarettes are a bit different. Only people 18+ can buy cigarettes, in a perfect world at least lol. Children everywhere are ingesting trans fats though. Don't get me wrong, the responsibility of what children eat does fall on the parents, to a point. But most adults don't know as much as they should about nutrition. And as Mr_Knight said, trans fats are everywhere, it's hard to avoid them unless you are diligent about it. That's why 2/3 of US adults are overweight and 1/3 of US children are overweight, not to mention heart disease is the #1 killer in America. So what's a nation to do? Just watch it's citizens continue to get fatter, the cost of dealing with heart disease continue to rise? It's done that for decades...
So trans fats are everywhere = rising obesity? Interesting
It's a contributing factor, and it causes atherosclerosis, heart disease is the #1 killer in America. The first trans fat product was released in 1911, by the 1930's heart disease was becoming a real problem, and by the 1950's it was the leading cause of death in America.0 -
Meh....
Not a fan of 'big government' but this seems like something I'm not likely to get my undies in a twist about.
Let's pause a moment to pay our last respects to Crisco.0 -
I thought it was sugar that had made us all fat?0
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No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...
Cigarettes are a bit different. Only people 18+ can buy cigarettes, in a perfect world at least lol. Children everywhere are ingesting trans fats though. Don't get me wrong, the responsibility of what children eat does fall on the parents, to a point. But most adults don't know as much as they should about nutrition. And as Mr_Knight said, trans fats are everywhere, it's hard to avoid them unless you are diligent about it. That's why 2/3 of US adults are overweight and 1/3 of US children are overweight, not to mention heart disease is the #1 killer in America. So what's a nation to do? Just watch it's citizens continue to get fatter, the cost of dealing with heart disease continue to rise? It's done that for decades...
So trans fats are everywhere = rising obesity? Interesting
It's a contributing factor, and it causes atherosclerosis, heart disease is the #1 killer in America. The first trans fat product was released in 1911, by the 1930's heart disease was becoming a real problem, and by the 1950's it was the leading cause of death in America.
and what were life expectancies doing during this same time period?0 -
The FDA is 100% political.
The real reason it's banning trans fats is because someone wrote a check.0 -
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I have no problem with it. Bring back butter, IMO.0
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I don't have a problem with it either.
But I am a cynic and I am betting that the food and beverage industry has already come up with an "alternative" -- an alternative that is just as fake, just as dangerous to health and it will just be mask under a halo of affordable wholesomeness.
And in 15 years there will be studies that find out that Big Food's replacement of trans fat was even worse...
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beachhouse758 wrote: »I don't have a problem with it either.
But I am a cynic and I am betting that the food and beverage industry has already come up with an "alternative" -- an alternative that is just as fake, just as dangerous to health and it will just be mask under a halo of affordable wholesomeness.
And in 15 years there will be studies that find out that Big Food's replacement of trans fat was even worse...
Hahaha!
That is probably true.
Wait, that's not funny.
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beachhouse758 wrote: »I don't have a problem with it either.
But I am a cynic and I am betting that the food and beverage industry has already come up with an "alternative" -- an alternative that is just as fake, just as dangerous to health and it will just be mask under a halo of affordable wholesomeness.
And in 15 years there will be studies that find out that Big Food's replacement of trans fat was even worse...
That'll probably be the most perceptive thing posted on MFP on all day.
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Welcome to America. The land of the over-governed.
Seriously, aren't there more important things to worry about. Things that really need the government's attention like global warming, pollution, ISIS, North Korea...
So what does the US make a priority...transfat. Something that is already on labels and everyone knows is bad for them.
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Classic political machine working small to big. FDA: Let's solve those real problems like Trans Fats, and soda size RIGHT NOW. We'll get to the overprescribing of pain medication, and drug pricing, and tort reform some other time.
*Hijack* - Seriously, I got prescribed a bottle of Norco (Tylenol and Hydrocodone) yesterday because I got a steroid shot for my shoulder yesterday (for pain that had largely subsided by the time of the appointment) - because the shot *might* cause *some* pain for a couple of days. Seriously? A narcotic with possible addictive side effects and withdrawal for the possibility of slight discomfort? Am I over reacting?
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enterdanger wrote: »Welcome to America. The land of the over-governed.
Seriously, aren't there more important things to worry about. Things that really need the government's attention like global warming, pollution, ISIS, North Korea...
So what does the US make a priority...transfat. Something that is already on labels and everyone knows is bad for them.
Because the FDA is banning trans fat does not mean that the government as a whole is ignoring everything else. The FDA is the Food and Drug Administration. Their job isn't to be concerned about ISIS and North Korea is not a threat.
I'm personally hoping that butter makes the come back as opposed to lard.
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enterdanger wrote: »Welcome to America. The land of the over-governed.
Seriously, aren't there more important things to worry about. Things that really need the government's attention like global warming, pollution, ISIS, North Korea...
So what does the US make a priority...transfat. Something that is already on labels and everyone knows is bad for them.
Ship all the trans-fat to Syria
2 problems solved
I should be president0 -
I'm down with it.0
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ceoverturf wrote: »enterdanger wrote: »Welcome to America. The land of the over-governed.
Seriously, aren't there more important things to worry about. Things that really need the government's attention like global warming, pollution, ISIS, North Korea...
So what does the US make a priority...transfat. Something that is already on labels and everyone knows is bad for them.
Ship all the trans-fat to Syria
2 problems solved
I should be president
Heh hee, that made me laugh.
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No, but apparently they have reason to believe this is harmful enough to do so. Isn't that what they're there for? Afaik they're not talking about banning other things, but this has been coming. Other countries are taking various steps as well.
Cigarettes? Wouldn't that be more pressing than Trans fat? I don't advocate banning tobacco but...
Cigarettes are a bit different. Only people 18+ can buy cigarettes, in a perfect world at least lol. Children everywhere are ingesting trans fats though. Don't get me wrong, the responsibility of what children eat does fall on the parents, to a point. But most adults don't know as much as they should about nutrition. And as Mr_Knight said, trans fats are everywhere, it's hard to avoid them unless you are diligent about it. That's why 2/3 of US adults are overweight and 1/3 of US children are overweight, not to mention heart disease is the #1 killer in America. So what's a nation to do? Just watch it's citizens continue to get fatter, the cost of dealing with heart disease continue to rise? It's done that for decades...
So trans fats are everywhere = rising obesity? Interesting
It's a contributing factor, and it causes atherosclerosis, heart disease is the #1 killer in America. The first trans fat product was released in 1911, by the 1930's heart disease was becoming a real problem, and by the 1950's it was the leading cause of death in America.
and what were life expectancies doing during this same time period?
Increasing0 -
beachhouse758 wrote: »I don't have a problem with it either.
But I am a cynic and I am betting that the food and beverage industry has already come up with an "alternative" -- an alternative that is just as fake, just as dangerous to health and it will just be mask under a halo of affordable wholesomeness.
And in 15 years there will be studies that find out that Big Food's replacement of trans fat was even worse...
You're probably right0 -
There are many compounds in various foods that are not considered healthy, and are not permitted to be added to foodstuffs, but are naturally occurring.
From the act:§402. A food shall be deemed to be adulterated—(a) (1) If it bears or contains any poisonous or deleterious substance which may render it injurious to health; but in case the substance is not an added substance such food shall not be considered adulterated under this clause if the quantity of such substance in such food does not ordinarily render it injurious to health…
It is a perfectly consistent policy to allow such low doses of these naturally occurring compounds to enter the food system while at the same time putting into effect a ban on the food industry from adding industrially produced hydrogenated fats to foodstuffs.
This isn't government overreach, this is government doing something for the greater good.
A little late, but good nonetheless.
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