Which Plan to Follow

rko78621
rko78621 Posts: 4 Member
edited November 20 in Health and Weight Loss
Opinions Needed - Low Carb or Low Fat? So many different plans out there that is it difficult to decide which plan to follow - but I NEED QUICK RESULTS so that I will stick with it.
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  • Alyssa_Is_LosingIt
    Alyssa_Is_LosingIt Posts: 4,696 Member
    How about the "Eat at a Calorie Deficit" plan? And no, you don't need quick results. You need sustainable results. Find a plan that you can stick to, log everything as accurately as possible, and be patient. The weight will come off.
  • strong_curves
    strong_curves Posts: 2,229 Member
    Either or but low carb & low fat aren't going to work unless you're eating at a deficit. And it probably won't happen as quick as you'd like.
  • rkcampbell
    rkcampbell Posts: 188 Member
    Neither. Just eat a balanced diet, try to stick to your macros, and hit your calorie goal. No need to cut certain foods/groups.
  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    The "Eat Less Than You Burn" plan.
  • cathipa
    cathipa Posts: 2,991 Member
    Both will probably cause you to have a deficit, but will you be happy with them enough to stick with it forever? Chances are probably not. Why not figure out a good calorie deficit (use this calculator) and log and weigh everything? I've tried every other "diet" out there and this has been what worked best for me (and plenty of others out there).
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    edited June 2015
    How about the "Eat at a Calorie Deficit" plan? And no, you don't need quick results. You need sustainable results. Find a plan that you can stick to, log everything as accurately as possible, and be patient. The weight will come off.

    This^

    Instead of a "plan" just eat your normal foods BUT weigh/measure the portions. I am fat because I eat too much food....it's not the fat....or the carbs that made me fat....it's the calories.

    A side note:
    Low carb is great for initial water loss. If you need the number on the scale to move quickly...this is your "plan." Keep in mind that the water comes back when you eat "regularly" again. Eventually more of the weight will come back unless you have a game plan for maintenance.
  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    You don't need a plan/program/diet/way of eating. What you need is a calorie deficit. You can achieve that calorie deficit any way you like: LC, LF, Clean, Paleo, IIFYM, Vegan, whatever way you prefer, but the one requirement is that you have to be at a calorie deficit. Many successful people find they have the best chances of long term success if they use moderation to continue to eat all the foods they like while achieving that calorie deficit. In my experience, that is far more motivating than losing weight quickly doing something that makes me miserable.

  • BennyCH
    BennyCH Posts: 73 Member
    With low carb you will never be hungry which helps a lot when you are on a calorie deficit :)

    Also you will have countless energy (all your bodyfat) to your disposal - 10kg bodyfat=90'000 kcal vs 2'000 kcal carbs in your muscles and liver...

    Your insulin response will be better which means fat secretion from the cells will be much easier...

    The only "downside" to low carb is that it can be hard to stick to, otherwise it is a brilliant lifestyle
  • rkcampbell
    rkcampbell Posts: 188 Member
    BennyCH wrote: »
    With low carb you will never be hungry which helps a lot when you are on a calorie deficit :)

    Also you will have countless energy (all your bodyfat) to your disposal - 10kg bodyfat=90'000 kcal vs 2'000 kcal carbs in your muscles and liver...

    Your insulin response will be better which means fat secretion from the cells will be much easier...

    The only "downside" to low carb is that it can be hard to stick to, otherwise it is a brilliant lifestyle

    Glad it worked for you. When I did low-carb I was STARVING all the time!!!!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    How about the "Eat at a Calorie Deficit" plan? And no, you don't need quick results. You need sustainable results. Find a plan that you can stick to, log everything as accurately as possible, and be patient. The weight will come off.

    cosign
  • BennyCH
    BennyCH Posts: 73 Member
    rkcampbell wrote: »

    Glad it worked for you. When I did low-carb I was STARVING all the time!!!!

    sad that it didn't worked for you :'( ...it's really a brilliant diet, especially for me since I'm a "carboholic"

  • besaro
    besaro Posts: 1,858 Member
    your own.
  • whmscll
    whmscll Posts: 2,255 Member
    OP, you don't need any sort of special plan to lose weight. That said, I have found that for me, reducing grain-based carbs and getting most of my carbs from fresh fruits and vegetables works well. I watch my macros and try to eat enough healthy fats to hit my fat target but not go over (or only go over by a percentage point or two). Really, the key is eating fewer calories than you burn. Lots of fresh fruits and veggies help me do that because they fill me up. I do have a piece of pita bread every day, i find that to be a very satisfying snack. But when I eat grain-based carbs with every meal I tend to just crave more of them, and that has led to binging for me.

    So you have to find a way of eating that works for you. If low-carb or low-fat work for you, go for it, but neither one is any guarantee that you will lose weight.
  • chadpoulin
    chadpoulin Posts: 9 Member
    Cutting fat, carbs, whatever really mainly works because you cut out entire food groups which naturally leads to a calorie deficit. I've known people who swear by cutting out dairy, others who swear by cutting gluten. But in my opinion, cutting out food groups isnt the best way to go.

    Fats provide health benefits (limit saturated fats, trans fats). Carbs provide health benefits including fiber (avoid simple carbs/added sugar). Just eat healthier food that you like in sensible portions. There is no magic "plan". Losing weight (and keeping it off) isnt a quick results thing, it is a lifestyle change.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    BennyCH wrote: »
    With low carb you will never be hungry which helps a lot when you are on a calorie deficit :)

    Also you will have countless energy (all your bodyfat) to your disposal - 10kg bodyfat=90'000 kcal vs 2'000 kcal carbs in your muscles and liver...

    Your insulin response will be better which means fat secretion from the cells will be much easier...

    The only "downside" to low carb is that it can be hard to stick to, otherwise it is a brilliant lifestyle
    I was starving too when I did low carb, and I had NO energy. so some things dont work for everyone.

  • NekoneMeowMixx
    NekoneMeowMixx Posts: 410 Member
    You're probably going to get a lot of slack for this post, and having been there myself, I'll be nice... Anything that is "Low ____" is pretty much *kitten*, unless your doctor recommends it or you have a medical issue that requires it. No one body is the same, so no one meal plan will work for every single person. And no... you don't need "quick results". You need to be patient and think about how badly you really want this. Good things do not come to those who *kitten* about how long it takes. Good things come to those who sweat and bust their *kitten* each and every day. It won't be easy at first, but stick through it and it WILL get better. You will start seeing results, SLOWLY but you need to pay attention and be grateful to the differences in how you feel, how your body looks in the mirror, your new PRs, be it a lap time or squat weight.

    I highly suggest weightlifting if you're looking to lose weight, as it's going to help you burn more calories in the long run and you can eat MORE, because you're fueling your body to grow the muscles that will burn said calories/fat. Don't fall victim to the "cardio err-day, all day" trap. Trust me on this. I just started Jamie Eason's 12 Week Live Fit plan: Week 4 today, and I'm seeing results. I don't follow the meal plan, but I make proper choices. I eat 1,800 calories a day with a 40/20/40 (Protein, Fat, Carb) split. I've dropped 5 pounds and am trimming my waist/thighs and growing my arms and other muscles. Just trust me on this-- don't fall for the fad diets or fancy products. Just trust your body and trust the journey and take what everyone says here (who has been there, done that) into consideration.

    Whatever you do, don't ask for advice and then immediately turn it down because it's not good or fast enough. That's the quickest way to get eaten alive out here. Which, I guess would help you see "quick results" in weight loss, but I'm pretty sure you don't want to get torn a new a-hole...

    Best of luck!
  • BennyCH
    BennyCH Posts: 73 Member
    just to make it clear since many people think "low carb = zero carb", myself I can have 100g/day and still be in ketosis, and with 100g carbs per day you can have all the vegetables incl. fibers you need...

    cutting out certain food groups is really important, especially gluten-based food because they don't offer anything that you cannot get from other more healthy sources and they are filled with toxins
  • Ang108
    Ang108 Posts: 1,706 Member
    rko78621 wrote: »
    Opinions Needed - Low Carb or Low Fat? So many different plans out there that is it difficult to decide which plan to follow - but I NEED QUICK RESULTS so that I will stick with it.

    Most importantly; you need to eat at a deficit.
    After that no one can tell you what to do, because only you can figure out what works best for you.
    For me moderate carbs and fat work well and I prefer slow loss over fast, because so far this is what has worked. I have lost 65 pounds over two years eating a wide variety of healthy foods aiming at a .5 pound weekly loss. I never had to worry that I all of a sudden gained back some weight again. I know too many people who LOST WEIGHT FAST and then re-gained it even FASTER.
    Good Luck !

  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    BennyCH wrote: »
    just to make it clear since many people think "low carb = zero carb", myself I can have 100g/day and still be in ketosis, and with 100g carbs per day you can have all the vegetables incl. fibers you need...

    cutting out certain food groups is really important, especially gluten-based food because they don't offer anything that you cannot get from other more healthy sources and they are filled with toxins

    I don't think 100 grams of carbs is going to qualify as low carb or ketosis...

  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    the eat less move more plan.

    nothing else is needed.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    If you want quick results I'd say go with low carb. You'll lose water weight quickly. Just keep in mind that when/if you up your carbs that water weight will likely be right back.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    Anything under 130g is generally accepted as low carb.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    edited June 2015
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    BennyCH wrote: »
    just to make it clear since many people think "low carb = zero carb", myself I can have 100g/day and still be in ketosis, and with 100g carbs per day you can have all the vegetables incl. fibers you need...

    cutting out certain food groups is really important, especially gluten-based food because they don't offer anything that you cannot get from other more healthy sources and they are filled with toxins

    I don't think 100 grams of carbs is going to qualify as low carb or ketosis...

    100 grams of carbs definitely qualifies as low carb.

    Probably not ketosis, but some people have been known to be able to either stay in ketosis or move in and out with little problem at a similar carb level (although it is not the norm).

    OP - best diet? one you can stick to.
  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    BennyCH wrote: »
    cutting out certain food groups is really important, especially gluten-based food because they don't offer anything that you cannot get from other more healthy sources and they are filled with toxins
    I don't agree at all.

    Cutting out certain foods leads to craving those foods. Unless there's a legitimate medical reason and your doctor has told you to do so, it's best to keep eating the things you normally eat, just in smaller portions.

    If glutens were toxic, the FDA would have banned them.
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    Cutting out certain foods leads to craving those foods.

    I don't agree at all. :p

  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    You don't need a plan/program/diet/way of eating. What you need is a calorie deficit. You can achieve that calorie deficit any way you like: LC, LF, Clean, Paleo, IIFYM, Vegan, whatever way you prefer, but the one requirement is that you have to be at a calorie deficit. Many successful people find they have the best chances of long term success if they use moderation to continue to eat all the foods they like while achieving that calorie deficit. In my experience, that is far more motivating than losing weight quickly doing something that makes me miserable.

    cosign

    All plans work, but each plan works for different people. Find what works for you. That will be a "plan" that keeps you satisfied, gives you the energy you need to live your life, is something you can do for the rest of your life, allows you to enjoy the foods you love, and fits into your lifestyle.

    Personally, I am doing wonderfully on a moderation "plan". My macros are set at 35% carb, 35% protein and 30% fat so, technically, it qualifies as a reduced carb way of eating but not low carb. I needed to do it to manage T2Dm but found out that it is very satisfying for me overall. YMMV

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    Cutting out certain foods leads to craving those foods.

    I don't agree at all. :p

    It is indeed very subjective. Some people do better cutting certain things out completely, others don't. There is no blanket rule.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    BennyCH wrote: »
    cutting out certain food groups is really important, especially gluten-based food because they don't offer anything that you cannot get from other more healthy sources and they are filled with toxins
    I don't agree at all.

    Cutting out certain foods leads to craving those foods. Unless there's a legitimate medical reason and your doctor has told you to do so, it's best to keep eating the things you normally eat, just in smaller portions.

    If glutens were toxic, the FDA would have banned them.

    I cut out bread made from flour and don't crave it. I reduced simple carbs/high glycemic load carbs and increased protein, veggies, and exercise, and except for really briefly premenstrually, am no longer plagued by food cravings. Previously, the more sugar I ate, the more I wanted.

    @rko78621 - whatever helps you get to a calorie deficit without feeling deprived. For me, it was lowering carbs. For you, it may be lowering fat, or just eating the way you normally do, but smaller amounts.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    seska422 wrote: »
    Cutting out certain foods leads to craving those foods.

    I don't agree at all. :p

    Elimination diets have a bad track record with maintenance. If I had medical issues....I would do low carb, if I had celiac disease.....I would do gluten free, if diet soda gave me migraines.....I would give it up. But temporary elimination won't give me the tools to manage these cravings in the future.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I'm a firm believer in a balanced diet...moderate carbs, moderate fat, moderate protein intake.

    of the two though, I guess I would opt for low carb...time has shown that low fat diets are actually pretty bad for you from a health standpoint...dietary fat is very essential...you can get away with little to no carbs...but I personally wouldn't bother unless I had a medical reason to actually go low carb.

    note that most people who eat anything resembling the SAD could stand to moderate both carb and fat intake...but that doesn't mean you have to go low carb or low fat....just balance out your nutrition better.
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