James Duncan Diet 1 stone 1 week
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Hi all,
I have heard about this james duncan diet and I wondered if anyone had tried it?
Apparently its a chemical diet and so the meal plan must be followed to a tee which is fine.
I have been eating clean for over a month now and haven't had any success and I have an event in a couple of weeks which I would ideally like to slim down for.
I havent done any diet like this before but I am more than aware that its possible some of the weight may wriggle its way back on after and I after reading reviews its likely to just be water weight so no lectures on fad dieting please!
I am just looking into something to kickstart my loss because despite doing the 30day shred for 20 days non stop and eating well Im not seeing any results and its frustrating!
So in short;
Have you done this diet and what results did you get?
Did the weight stay off?
Did you exercise whilst doing it?
Thanks guys!
I have heard about this james duncan diet and I wondered if anyone had tried it?
Apparently its a chemical diet and so the meal plan must be followed to a tee which is fine.
I have been eating clean for over a month now and haven't had any success and I have an event in a couple of weeks which I would ideally like to slim down for.
I havent done any diet like this before but I am more than aware that its possible some of the weight may wriggle its way back on after and I after reading reviews its likely to just be water weight so no lectures on fad dieting please!
I am just looking into something to kickstart my loss because despite doing the 30day shred for 20 days non stop and eating well Im not seeing any results and its frustrating!
So in short;
Have you done this diet and what results did you get?
Did the weight stay off?
Did you exercise whilst doing it?
Thanks guys!
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I googled it to see what it was and it's a crap diet that's been handed around for YEARS, decades even. My mother has done this or some variation of this a million times and no, she never kept the weight off. There is nothing magic about those foods even in those combinations. It looks to be very low calorie, which is why you would lose weight on it.0
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Hi all,
I have heard about this james duncan diet and I wondered if anyone had tried it?
Apparently its a chemical diet and so the meal plan must be followed to a tee which is fine.
I have been eating clean for over a month now and haven't had any success and I have an event in a couple of weeks which I would ideally like to slim down for.
I havent done any diet like this before but I am more than aware that its possible some of the weight may wriggle its way back on after and I after reading reviews its likely to just be water weight so no lectures on fad dieting please!
I am just looking into something to kickstart my loss because despite doing the 30day shred for 20 days non stop and eating well Im not seeing any results and its frustrating!
So in short;
Have you done this diet and what results did you get?
Did the weight stay off?
Did you exercise whilst doing it?
Thanks guys!
Are you logging accurately? If you're exercising, are you overestimating the amount burned?
Define what "eating clean" is for you?
Also, it would help if you would open up your diary.0 -
I had to Google it, too. Looks like a variation of the "Military Diet", which is rubbish, too. It's VLCD, with the claim of working "chemically" (srs, what the heck does that mean?) and must be followed exactly. It's dumb, because 14lbs in one week is NOT real weight loss, since the goal is to lose fat, right? 14lb of true weight loss is roughly 7,000 calorie per DAY deficit--IMPOSSIBLE.
You'll probably lose a lot of water weight (because very low calorie, low carbs, low EVERYTHING) and some muscle, and maybe a pound of fat (maybe? IDK, not doing math today). You can lose 1lb of fat (approx.) a week by just creating a 500 calorie a day deficit. Nice and moderate, sustainable, and healthy. Oh, and no crazy, hangry emotions from eating less food than a preschooler needs.0 -
FAD. Don't fall for it. The catch is in "you have to follow it to a tee or it won't work".0
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Even at my fattest, when I was losing so quickly, I didn't lose a stone in a week.
I would go a week without food and do my gardening naked if I thought I could, but I don't see it happening. No way.
I think when people say they want to kick-start their weight loss, they mean they want to see some good results fats and are willing to work hard for them.
The working hard is good, but you need to do it for a long, long time. You need patience because the results are SLOW.
If you cannot be patient and are not committed to do hard work, every day, even though you do to get much for it on any day (and some days get nothing or have to see the scale go up!), don't bother dieting right now. Wait until you're ready.
A stone a week would be a really rare thing.0 -
Tried it last year - it's under 500 calories a day. It works - but i lost a stone in four days and I wasn't that big to start with. Avoid it like the plague - you'll put the weight you've lost back on automatically as you train your body to expect less food so when you begin eating again it stores lots as fat and not as muscle. For me it literally felt like the weight was being dragged off me - I felt lethargic and moody! Also, you'll get so sick of grapefruit you'll never want to see one again!0
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Hi- I have *actually* done this diet. I followed it to a T and I lost 5 pounds. I had worked over the previous weeks to get rid of water weight that I was holding and lost ten pounds of water weight-- I believe that if I had started dieting with his diet, I absolutely would have lost a total of 15 from it. It's a great diet, well balanced, but very very hard to follow. I ate between 500-800 each day; there was one day that was about 1000 calories I believe.
It's not "bull****"; it's actually quite sound. I'd say people that don't think it works haven't actually followed it or are consuming extra calories and not logging or forgetting about them.-2 -
Hi- I have *actually* done this diet. I followed it to a T and I lost 5 pounds. I had worked over the previous weeks to get rid of water weight that I was holding and lost ten pounds of water weight-- I believe that if I had started dieting with his diet, I absolutely would have lost a total of 15 from it. It's a great diet, well balanced, but very very hard to follow. I ate between 500-800 each day; there was one day that was about 1000 calories I believe.
It's not "bull****"; it's actually quite sound. I'd say people that don't think it works haven't actually followed it or are consuming extra calories and not logging or forgetting about them.
It is not "sound." You could eat 500-800 calories a day of ANYTHING and lose the same amount of weight.0 -
Sounds like a bad idea, what's the rush? I know you have a thing that you want to slim down for but its likely that a large amount of the 1 stone you lose will be water weight. IMHO weightloss is best done slowly and healthily if you want to maintain and not pile it all back on again.0
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It's "sound" if you believe a stavation diet is "sound". 500-800 calories a day of anything will have you dropping weight. Eat 500-800 calories a day of marshmallows, if that floats your boat. But don't go preaching that a VLCD is "sound". You drop weight fast because you're eating stuff all.0
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I am actually doing this diet right now too. It's fine, not even starvation at all. 3 meals a day, although just selected foods. I've lost 5.29 pounds (2.4kg) after 3 days, so on target for 1 stone by the end of the week.
Amazing that people can comment who haven't actually tried it. The point for me is to get to my ideal weight and then manage it better from there. Of course you can put the weight right back on if you don't manage it properly.
And the 'rush' for me is that I don't want to diet for months on end. I want the weight off to use as a baseline for overall healthier eating.
Prior to this I was fixed at 83kg, fluctuating by about 1kg. And I run once or twice a week and also ride my bike. I only do exercise so I can eat what I want, however, despite that I was still slightly overweight, according to the BMI guide.
So, there we go. I'll let you know the end result. I do recommend this. There are 4 of us doing it, all shapes and sizes. One of my friends lost 7 pounds after 3 days.
I have been a bit hungry, slightly impatient, but also really clear-headed after day 2, so no ill-effects.0 -
jonnysharpe wrote: »
Prior to this I was fixed at 83kg, fluctuating by about 1kg. And I run once or twice a week and also ride my bike. I only do exercise so I can eat what I want, however, despite that I was still slightly overweight, according to the BMI guide.
See here is your problem, just because you were running once or twice a week and also riding your bike it doesn't mean you can eat what you want.
You need to eat at a deficit. If you burn 1k calories exercising and eat back 1.2k calories you won't lose weight.
Starvation diets a stupid fad diets and no doubt in the month after you have "lost" the weight you will have put it all back on. You will have zero idea about portion control or how to eat at maintenance or at a slight deficit.
You'll go back to exercising and eating what you like and then the weight will come straight back.
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IF you are very fat, you can easily "lose" 3lbs of food from your stomach and another 8lbs of water weight on a diet like this. Follow the food recommendations to a T, and you can lose in 7 days perhaps 7lbs if you are VERY fat and 2-3lbs if you are merely normal to overweight.0
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don't treat it as a long term plan but if you really feel the need to lose for that one off event then go for it. I expect any low cal (not very low cal) and very low carb diet will work short term though you may feel pretty tired while doing it. Just make sure that you revert to something more sustainable after the event. Water loss is still a loss in terms of body silhouette after all.1
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lose 14lbs in a week
LOL
looks again
LOL
ridiculous things are ridiculous
here's a clue - it will be water weight .. perhaps a couple of lbs of fat if you're lucky and some LBM loss
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jonnysharpe wrote: »I am actually doing this diet right now too. It's fine, not even starvation at all. 3 meals a day, although just selected foods. I've lost 5.29 pounds (2.4kg) after 3 days, so on target for 1 stone by the end of the week.
Amazing that people can comment who haven't actually tried it. The point for me is to get to my ideal weight and then manage it better from there. Of course you can put the weight right back on if you don't manage it properly.
And the 'rush' for me is that I don't want to diet for months on end. I want the weight off to use as a baseline for overall healthier eating.
Prior to this I was fixed at 83kg, fluctuating by about 1kg. And I run once or twice a week and also ride my bike. I only do exercise so I can eat what I want, however, despite that I was still slightly overweight, according to the BMI guide.
So, there we go. I'll let you know the end result. I do recommend this. There are 4 of us doing it, all shapes and sizes. One of my friends lost 7 pounds after 3 days.
I have been a bit hungry, slightly impatient, but also really clear-headed after day 2, so no ill-effects.
as soon as you stop you will put the water weight back on as your body replenishes it's glycogen stores and waste accumulates in your body
and you would have lost more LBM than you would have needed to by following a starvation diet for, admittedly, a short time as you're in a catabolic state .. your body still needs to function so it gets it from the closest source
so when you stop you'll put the weight back on (most of it) and be in a worse state (body composition wise) than when you started
This is why people comment who haven't actually tried it .. because it is a bad, bad idea ... a manipulation of water weight and clearing your digestive system and leaves you worse off than before
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Have you tried giving CICO a go?
Why do people come here if they're going to try The X Diet instead of counting their calorie intake?0 -
Because all diets are a way to achieve CICO
now whether or not those diet plans are sensibly constructed to meet nutritional needs is a matter for discussion
and we all need to start our learning process somewhere .. as long as they come on with an open mind and don't feel that negative responses are an attack as opposed to the constructive criticism they are meant to be (perhaps poorly phrased at times because of the constant need for repetition)
*pollyanna*0 -
Sorry, yes, I may have sounded a bit brusque. Thanks, Pollyanna.
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jonnysharpe wrote: »
Prior to this I was fixed at 83kg, fluctuating by about 1kg. And I run once or twice a week and also ride my bike. I only do exercise so I can eat what I want, however, despite that I was still slightly overweight, according to the BMI guide.
See here is your problem, just because you were running once or twice a week and also riding your bike it doesn't mean you can eat what you want.
You need to eat at a deficit. If you burn 1k calories exercising and eat back 1.2k calories you won't lose weight.
Starvation diets a stupid fad diets and no doubt in the month after you have "lost" the weight you will have put it all back on. You will have zero idea about portion control or how to eat at maintenance or at a slight deficit.
You'll go back to exercising and eating what you like and then the weight will come straight back.
I know this was the problem, which is why I wanted to lose the weight and change my habits from there. It may be seen as short-term thinking, but I already have ideas about how to keep the weight off. You may not agree, or have better ideas, which I'm looking at...but hey, it's a start! Plus, for me, this isn't a starvation diet. And it's pretty healthy eating.0 -
Plus, ALL diets are fads in my opinion0
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jonnyman41 wrote: »don't treat it as a long term plan but if you really feel the need to lose for that one off event then go for it. I expect any low cal (not very low cal) and very low carb diet will work short term though you may feel pretty tired while doing it. Just make sure that you revert to something more sustainable after the event. Water loss is still a loss in terms of body silhouette after all.
Thanks. You've nailed it. That is indeed the plan!0 -
jonnysharpe wrote: »Plus, ALL diets are fads in my opinion
CICO as a concept literally isn't a fad. It's based on science. The "diets" that spring up as a way for you to achieve CICO - some of them are fads, some of them are reasonable enough for people who're not keen on calorie counting.
The diet you're on about is 100% a starvation diet. You are eating way too little for your body to be able to function properly. You're going to lose far more muscle mass than you would if you just ate at a smaller deficit (500, for example). Eating a VLCD doesn't instill any good habits in you. Whatever it was that's been stopping you from losing weight before will still be there when you go back to your normal lifestyle. At the very least, you'll go back to not losing, but it's more likely you'll put weight back on.
I've built far better habits eating 1500 calories a day because that leaves me with enough room that I can build actual, sizeable and filling meals within my calorie goal. When I hit my goal, I'll move to maintenance and I'll continue to eat the same sorts of things, but I'll just scale them up to increase the calories a bit.
What good habits will you have built up from eating 1 slice of toast for breakfast and nothing but fruit for lunch? Those aren't meals, they aren't sustainable. You'll basically want to gorge yourself because you haven't learned portion control with that.0 -
As I mentioned above, this is to lose the weight and change the longer term habits from there. All advice is appreciated. I'm new to this site and forum. I don't know what CICO is yet (I guess Calorie In Calorie Out?). This is the first diet I've ever tried. Whenever I was a tad overweight in the past, exercise just shed it for me. Now I'm a bit older, it ain't happening!
But I wholeheartedly agree, the simple mathematics of calorie intake is by far the most common-sense approach. I like cake and beer, what can I say 0 -
jonnysharpe wrote: »As I mentioned above, this is to lose the weight and change the longer term habits from there. All advice is appreciated. I'm new to this site and forum. I don't know what CICO is yet (I guess Calorie In Calorie Out?). This is the first diet I've ever tried. Whenever I was a tad overweight in the past, exercise just shed it for me. Now I'm a bit older, it ain't happening!
But I wholeheartedly agree, the simple mathematics of calorie intake is by far the most common-sense approach. I like cake and beer, what can I say
So no comments on the fact that it is a bad idea to take a very low calorie diet and that it will leave you in a worse state, albeit temporarily lighter, than you were before?
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I can't comment on what I don't know about. I can only speak from my own knowledge. Why will I be in a 'worse state' and why is it a 'bad idea' in the short term?
I haven't even finished this yet, so have no idea if it's temporary or not. That's up to me, right?0 -
Read up thread - I've already covered the reasons against VLCD - you can look into the science behind it if you wish. Plus there's no learning curve in a quick-fix approach
and yes it's up to you .. but post in an advice board and that's what you get .. advice from people who may actually know something about it
Of course if you were medically obese (BMI over 30) then a VLCD under medical supervision may be an appropriate path to follow for a short-term as your medical team would consider the consequences of the VLCD against the associated health risks of obesity0 -
Really useful, thanks. I'll see how this goes, particularly what happens afterwards. I'm sure there will be lots of tweaks to both diet and exercise in the coming months to hit the routine I'm comfortable with. It's also useful to know that weight is way too simplistic a measure on it's own.
I always saw this as a starting point (rightly or wrongly), so am ok if I don't get it exactly right first time. I'm more interested than obsessed.
Now I'm going to eat some fruit while I dream of steak pies!0 -
This is the only 'fad' diet I have ever done...but no lectures allowed so I will stick to the facts.
I did it around three years ago now. Yes it worked, I lost weight after being on the mother of all plateus for several months. It's a horrible diet, cutting out so many good and healthy foods, I felt ill most of the time I was on it and it was in no way sustainable. Once I came off the diet I gained back all the weight I lost plus around 5lbs almost instantly - this caused me to tailspin, go into 'sod it' mode for a while and gain back an addional 15lbs - I soon sorted my head out and talked myself back into my regular healthy lifestyle that had seen me lose 90lbs before going on the Dukan Diet and around 10lbs came back off...and there it ended....it's been over two years since I lost that 10lbs now and no matter what I do I can't shift any more, I don't know how or why but I personally believe that something about being on that diet messed with my metabolism or something.
Everyone is different and I am not saying my experience with it is what would happen to everyone else who tried it but I would never recommend this or any other fad diet to anyone.0
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