PERIOD PAIN... HELP !!!!!

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  • jmd543
    jmd543 Posts: 174 Member
    I take extra turmeric during that week, and it helps me a lot.
  • Becca211H
    Becca211H Posts: 24 Member
    I found Dong Quai helped my cramps. I know someone above said it makes theirs worse, but I had the opposite reaction. Red Raspberry leaf tea is good too.
  • iWillGetCrowSomeday
    iWillGetCrowSomeday Posts: 311 Member
    Endometriosis can cause the GI symptoms you're experiencing. I'd find a new gyn. I had similar issues ever since my first period, and went back on the pill (combination pill). I skip my period for 4 months at a time, then have my "period" for a week and start again. My cramps are minimal now, and bleeding is super light. It's been a life saver for me.

    Also, Tylenol with codeine is NOT over the counter in the U.S. Prescription only.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited July 2015
    I was given mefanamic acid when I was a teenager for heavy, painful periods. I can highly recommend an IUD however, no more heavy or painful periods, or in fact, anything more than light spotting once every 5 or 6 weeks. Problem solved, with the added bonus of 99.99999999% reliability on pregnancy prevention.

    ETA:
    Period pain is not listed as one of the things Slippery Elm can be used for on Web MD
    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-978-slippery elm.aspx?activeingredientid=978&activeingredientname=slippery elm

    It also says:
    Slippery elm is POSSIBLY SAFE for most people when taken by mouth. When applied to the skin, some people can have an allergic reactions and skin irritation.

    If it causes skin irritation or allergic reactions in some people, is it possible this is making your intestinal issues worse, which in turn are making your period pains worse?

    Yup, I've read that. But yes, it was used as an abortifacient, so go figure.

    as for the Mirena: I'd be wary of adding synthetic hormones back into the mix.

    Actually the Mirena is recommended to people with other medical conditions because the hormones stay inside the womb and are not transmitted into the blood. That's why I use it - I have epilepsy which can be affected by changes in hormones so I can't go on the Pill, but I have to make damn sure I don't get pregnant since pregnancy hormones can make epilepsy go haywire!

    I read the bit on the abortion. Interesting the folklore went from 'when inserted into the cervix' to 'when taken by mouth'.... pretty sure they're different! And I would think that most things inserted into a pregnant woman's cervix have a high chance of causing miscarriage.

    ETA Mirena is also used to treat endometriosis.

    It doesn't stay "in the womb". It has systemic effects just like the others. Thus all the side effects listed. And no, things in the cervix (like your doctor's fingers, the "duck lips" etc.) don't cause miscarriage.
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    jmd543 wrote: »
    I take extra turmeric during that week, and it helps me a lot.

    I have Turmeric tablets in my cupboard ... I'll start taking them! Thanks
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    Becca211H wrote: »
    I found Dong Quai helped my cramps. I know someone above said it makes theirs worse, but I had the opposite reaction. Red Raspberry leaf tea is good too.

    I had heard good thing about Raspberry leaf tea but it has done nothing for me sadly. I drank it consistently leading up to and during my periods and they didn't improve at all :(
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    Fay84Vegan wrote: »
    jmd543 wrote: »
    I take extra turmeric during that week, and it helps me a lot.

    I have Turmeric tablets in my cupboard ... I'll start taking them! Thanks

    fwiw, I add both ginger and turmeric root to my green smoothies...
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    edited July 2015
    Endometriosis can cause the GI symptoms you're experiencing. I'd find a new gyn. I had similar issues ever since my first period, and went back on the pill (combination pill). I skip my period for 4 months at a time, then have my "period" for a week and start again. My cramps are minimal now, and bleeding is super light. It's been a life saver for me.

    Also, Tylenol with codeine is NOT over the counter in the U.S. Prescription only.

    I was thinking it sounds like the symptoms of endo as well.
  • gothchiq
    gothchiq Posts: 4,590 Member
    edited July 2015
    These symptoms sound like what I used to have. They thought it was endometriosis; turned out to be fibroids and adenomyosis. You've got to see a doctor when things hurt that much. If your regular MD isn't working for you then u need someone else. Preferably an obgyn. I ended up having to have a hysterectomy, but most women can get satisfactory treatment in other ways. Herbal medicines are wonderful but they don't fix everything all the time, especially when you don't have a definite diagnosis so you don't know what you have to treat exactly. Once you find out what is making your cycles so terrible, you can work with your doctor to find the best treatment, be it natural or prescription or both. Take care of yourself, ok? Please don't try to ignore it. the sooner you get help the better.
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    Endometriosis can cause the GI symptoms you're experiencing. I'd find a new gyn. I had similar issues ever since my first period, and went back on the pill (combination pill). I skip my period for 4 months at a time, then have my "period" for a week and start again. My cramps are minimal now, and bleeding is super light. It's been a life saver for me.

    Also, Tylenol with codeine is NOT over the counter in the U.S. Prescription only.

    I was thinking it sounds like the symptoms of endo as well.

    If so, what causes it?

    Identifying the problem is important & so is finding out the cause in the first place..!

    Painful periods run in my family but I am not one to pass it off as 'genetic', there must be a reason & prevention..?
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    gothchiq wrote: »
    These symptoms sound like what I used to have. They thought it was endometriosis; turned out to be fibroids and adenomyosis. You've got to see a doctor when things hurt that much. If your regular MD isn't working for you then u need someone else. Preferably an obgyn. I ended up having to have a hysterectomy, but most women can get satisfactory treatment in other ways. Herbal medicines are wonderful but they don't fix everything all the time, especially when you don't have a definite diagnosis so you don't know what you have to treat exactly. Once you find out what is making your cycles so terrible, you can work with your doctor to find the best treatment, be it natural or prescription or both. Take care of yourself, ok? Please don't try to ignore it. the sooner you get help the better.

    Thank you for your kind words and advice.

    I am planning on going to a specialist as my GP hasn't helped at all.
  • octhawk
    octhawk Posts: 51 Member
    I take primrose for a couple of days beforehand. Seems to help a little. Not a lot, but I'll take what I can get
  • thewritingviolinst1
    thewritingviolinst1 Posts: 125 Member
    The yoga pose with your legs up straight against the wall can provide a little relief. It's not a super amazing cure-all kind of thing, but mine are awfulawfulawful too, so I just search for things that provide just a little relief.
  • ogmomma2012
    ogmomma2012 Posts: 1,520 Member
    Maybe stop self-medicating with "woo" and find a doctor/OBGYN to take you seriously. Sounds fricking dangerous!
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    If they gave you painkillers and the painkillers aren't helping, call them up and say, "The painkillers aren't enough. I'm still in pain."
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    If they gave you painkillers and the painkillers aren't helping, call them up and say, "The painkillers aren't enough. I'm still in pain."

    It's not just the pain... It's the nausea & vomiting that is most concerning... Either way according to the a Doctor 'it's all perfectly normal' .. I should just get over it!
  • Oi_Sunshine
    Oi_Sunshine Posts: 819 Member
    My doctor gave me mefenamic acid capsules to take three times a day starting the day before your period, for a few days. It helped but I usually had an extra day of cramping the day after I went off them and it made me nauseous. Maybe they could help you, though.
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    My doctor gave me mefenamic acid capsules to take three times a day starting the day before your period, for a few days. It helped but I usually had an extra day of cramping the day after I went off them and it made me nauseous. Maybe they could help you, though.

    I think they are the ones I have!
  • MakePeasNotWar
    MakePeasNotWar Posts: 1,329 Member
    I was given mefanamic acid when I was a teenager for heavy, painful periods. I can highly recommend an IUD however, no more heavy or painful periods, or in fact, anything more than light spotting once every 5 or 6 weeks. Problem solved, with the added bonus of 99.99999999% reliability on pregnancy prevention.

    ETA:
    Period pain is not listed as one of the things Slippery Elm can be used for on Web MD
    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-978-slippery elm.aspx?activeingredientid=978&activeingredientname=slippery elm

    It also says:
    Slippery elm is POSSIBLY SAFE for most people when taken by mouth. When applied to the skin, some people can have an allergic reactions and skin irritation.

    If it causes skin irritation or allergic reactions in some people, is it possible this is making your intestinal issues worse, which in turn are making your period pains worse?

    Yup, I've read that. But yes, it was used as an abortifacient, so go figure.

    as for the Mirena: I'd be wary of adding synthetic hormones back into the mix.

    Actually the Mirena is recommended to people with other medical conditions because the hormones stay inside the womb and are not transmitted into the blood. That's why I use it - I have epilepsy which can be affected by changes in hormones so I can't go on the Pill, but I have to make damn sure I don't get pregnant since pregnancy hormones can make epilepsy go haywire!

    I read the bit on the abortion. Interesting the folklore went from 'when inserted into the cervix' to 'when taken by mouth'.... pretty sure they're different! And I would think that most things inserted into a pregnant woman's cervix have a high chance of causing miscarriage.

    ETA Mirena is also used to treat endometriosis.

    It doesn't stay "in the womb". It has systemic effects just like the others. Thus all the side effects listed. And no, things in the cervix (like your doctor's fingers, the "duck lips" etc.) don't cause miscarriage.

    LMAO at "duck lips". Unfortunately, now I'll probably break out in giggles during my next gyn exam. Awk-ward.

    Also, I don't think I can look at Instagram selfies the same ever again.

    OP, I have found a lot of relief using a TENS machine. I originally got it to augment physiotherapy for my ankle and wrist, but read about people using it for cramps, and I tried it because I get awful cramps on the first day of my period. To my complete astonishment, it worked!

    http://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/pain/other/tens-treatment-primary-dysmenorrhea

    In the US, portable TENS machines are available in pharmacies and online for under $100; not sure about elsewhere.
  • rawhidenadz
    rawhidenadz Posts: 254 Member
    Track your period (I use the ptracker app) so that you know when to expect it, and start taking your painkillers one or two days before it starts. Heading off the pain before it gets there somehow helps. I have terrible cramps and if I forget to start taking meds at leasdt 24 hours in advance, it takes much, much longer for it to kick in once my period starts. My anatomy professor (who is a medical doctor) actually brought this up in class the other day and said that women with a lot of menstrual pain should do this
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member


    LMAO at "duck lips". Unfortunately, now I'll probably break out in giggles during my next gyn exam. Awk-ward.

    Also, I don't think I can look at Instagram selfies the same ever again.

    OP, I have found a lot of relief using a TENS machine. I originally got it to augment physiotherapy for my ankle and wrist, but read about people using it for cramps, and I tried it because I get awful cramps on the first day of my period. To my complete astonishment, it worked!

    http://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/pain/other/tens-treatment-primary-dysmenorrhea

    In the US, portable TENS machines are available in pharmacies and online for under $100; not sure about elsewhere. [/quote]

    Oh wow... Thank you, I'll give it a try!!
  • Fay84Vegan
    Fay84Vegan Posts: 225 Member
    Track your period (I use the ptracker app) so that you know when to expect it, and start taking your painkillers one or two days before it starts. Heading off the pain before it gets there somehow helps. I have terrible cramps and if I forget to start taking meds at leasdt 24 hours in advance, it takes much, much longer for it to kick in once my period starts. My anatomy professor (who is a medical doctor) actually brought this up in class the other day and said that women with a lot of menstrual pain should do this

    Good advice, Thank you!!
  • rainbowbow
    rainbowbow Posts: 7,490 Member
    Go to an OB/GYN and see if they can help.

    You may have something like endometriosis, pcos, or other hormonal factors at play that need to be balanced out. I know you said you don't want to take the pill again, but It's the only thing that's helped me and i had a very similar experience with periods before. My mom also has similar issues and also has to take hormonal prescriptions to balance everything out.

    "I started taking L Glutamine & Slippery Elm tablets 8-9 weeks ago to help heal my digestion from the damage the gluten has done."

    I would highly recommend you stop taking the slippery elm as well as any herbs that may be emmenagogues. They can induce a period or even a miscarriage.

    Lastly, are you actually a celiac?

  • Jesus get a second opinion from a real doctor instead of talking to strangers on the internet if you're in that much pain. I'm not unsympathetic. My cancer med has caused a 3 month long period. I cannot stand it. But I've gone to specialists because it's kinda important.

    Don't take weird stuff people you don't know tell you to take. See another doctor.
  • Sabine_Stroehm
    Sabine_Stroehm Posts: 19,263 Member
    I was given mefanamic acid when I was a teenager for heavy, painful periods. I can highly recommend an IUD however, no more heavy or painful periods, or in fact, anything more than light spotting once every 5 or 6 weeks. Problem solved, with the added bonus of 99.99999999% reliability on pregnancy prevention.

    ETA:
    Period pain is not listed as one of the things Slippery Elm can be used for on Web MD
    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-978-slippery elm.aspx?activeingredientid=978&activeingredientname=slippery elm

    It also says:
    Slippery elm is POSSIBLY SAFE for most people when taken by mouth. When applied to the skin, some people can have an allergic reactions and skin irritation.

    If it causes skin irritation or allergic reactions in some people, is it possible this is making your intestinal issues worse, which in turn are making your period pains worse?

    Yup, I've read that. But yes, it was used as an abortifacient, so go figure.

    as for the Mirena: I'd be wary of adding synthetic hormones back into the mix.

    Actually the Mirena is recommended to people with other medical conditions because the hormones stay inside the womb and are not transmitted into the blood. That's why I use it - I have epilepsy which can be affected by changes in hormones so I can't go on the Pill, but I have to make damn sure I don't get pregnant since pregnancy hormones can make epilepsy go haywire!

    I read the bit on the abortion. Interesting the folklore went from 'when inserted into the cervix' to 'when taken by mouth'.... pretty sure they're different! And I would think that most things inserted into a pregnant woman's cervix have a high chance of causing miscarriage.

    ETA Mirena is also used to treat endometriosis.

    It doesn't stay "in the womb". It has systemic effects just like the others. Thus all the side effects listed. And no, things in the cervix (like your doctor's fingers, the "duck lips" etc.) don't cause miscarriage.

    LMAO at "duck lips". Unfortunately, now I'll probably break out in giggles during my next gyn exam. Awk-ward.

    Also, I don't think I can look at Instagram selfies the same ever again.

    OP, I have found a lot of relief using a TENS machine. I originally got it to augment physiotherapy for my ankle and wrist, but read about people using it for cramps, and I tried it because I get awful cramps on the first day of my period. To my complete astonishment, it worked!

    http://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/pain/other/tens-treatment-primary-dysmenorrhea

    In the US, portable TENS machines are available in pharmacies and online for under $100; not sure about elsewhere.

    Smiles. It's not mine. It's from "The Vagina Monologues". But yes, it does, umm, color, how I see duck lips selfies!
  • shaumom
    shaumom Posts: 1,003 Member
    edited July 2015
    I don't know if this would be it, but in case it helps.

    You might explore something called a mast cell activation syndrome (MCAS, or MCAD). It's only had standard diagnostic criteria in the last couple of years and most doctors haven't even heard of it, or if they have, they think that the symptoms and tests for it are the same as a related disorder, mastocytosis, which is incorrect. It's currently listed as a rare disorder, but experts studying it think it is more 'rarely diagnosed' than rare, possibly up to around 6% of the population.

    Basically, this disorder causes the body's mast cells to degranulate and release their contents to stressors on the body (physical, emotional, environmental - things like foods, pollen, stress, temperature extremes, hormone shifts). The commonly diagnosed version is when the mast cells release histamine and it causes allergy symptoms, like hay fever or hives or anaphylaxis (because these symptoms are the most easily recognized). However, the mast cells can release other substances too, or lower levels of histamine, and cause dizziness, fatigue, gut and bowel issues, headaches, and so on.

    One of the substances released is heparin - which can cause problems with excessive bleeding, especially for women during their periods. Another substance that can be released is prostaglandin, which is involved in multiple aspects of your period, as well, and can make it much more intense.

    This disorder is rarely detected by regular, or even intense, testing, because the doctor needs to pick just the right test to tell this is happening, and even then, the markers may not always be abnormal (depends on coinciding with a reaction).
    - Also of interest. I'd say at least 2/3 of the people I know with this have gluten as a trigger for their mast cells.
    - Pain meds don't usually affect the pain caused by this disorder.
    - A fair number of folks with this who were celiacs had their bodies just go kind of nuts when they were diagnosed and went off of gluten. That happened to me. I was diagnosed as celiac, went off gluten, and within a week or two I started reacting to everything like crazy because of this disorder. My daughter has insanely intense periods because of this disorder.

    There is little good information on the web for this - most information is relevant only for mastocytosis or severe MCAS. But there are support groups for this on face book that Do have good info, if you search for MCAS, MCAD, myastocytosis, or mast cell disorder on the site. The folks there can answer questions, and also help you find doctors in your area who know how to test for this. I live in a city of 1 million people. There is one doctor here who tests for this, and even she is not an expert - the nearest expert is about 500 miles away in another state. So it really takes some research to find a knowledgeable doctor.

    Again, I really don't know if this is what you are experiencing, but it sounds very similar to experiences that some folks with this disorder have described, so it might at least be worth exploring. And if nothing else, many times, people with this disorder have researched so much in trying to get diagnosed that they might be aware of something ELSE it could be, so could help that way.

    Good luck, hon!
  • blobby10
    blobby10 Posts: 357 Member
    My periods have become MUCH less painful since a started taking an iron tablet daily.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    edited July 2015
    Go see a doctor. Honestly, I think the only way I've heard is to find a BC pill that does that for you. That's what the doctor had my friend do when her cramps were so bad she went into false labour (not pregnant). But the doctor would likely have other suggestions.
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member

    ETA: Both those pain killers are over the counter, by the way.

    Tylenol with codeine is not over the counter

    they sell warming patches that are for the lower back but I've used them on my front side. so I can walk around and not be stuck with a heating pad
  • carakirkey
    carakirkey Posts: 199 Member
    Fay84Vegan wrote: »


    Many women have improved their periods through diet or other methods and I am interested to see if anyone has suggestions that I haven't tried.

    You should see a doctor because I think there are other things going on. But for cramp symptom relief- COLD chamomile tea (brew hot and strong, let it cool down)- it works as an antispasmodic (anti-cramping). Otherwise Evening Primrose oil can be quite effective as can Vitamin b6 supplements to reduce PMS symptoms. Calcium/Magnesium supplement can help as well.
    I find my cramps are worse if I eat too much dairy or sodium
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