Metabolism

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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    Oh lawd here we go again

    Having more muscle mass means you burn more calories; your TDEE and BMR are higher. However, the amount of muscle required to burn a significant amount of calories is pretty big.

    The amount of meals thing (6 a day vs 3) is complete broscience lol.
  • Zedeff
    Zedeff Posts: 651 Member
    Having more muscle mass means you burn more calories; your TDEE and BMR are higher. However, the amount of muscle required to burn a significant amount of calories is pretty big.

    Agreed. Muscle takes about 13 calories per pound per day to maintain. If you've already been lifting (ie. you're not a beginner), you could naturally gain about 10-15 lbs of muscle per year.

    A year from now, your maintenance could increase by a whopping 195 calories per day, so you could liberalize your diet to the tune of one vanilla latte per day for a year of seriously focused weight training.

    You have to determine for yourself if it's worth it.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Having more muscle mass means you burn more calories; your TDEE and BMR are higher. However, the amount of muscle required to burn a significant amount of calories is pretty big.

    Agreed. Muscle takes about 13 calories per pound per day to maintain. If you've already been lifting (ie. you're not a beginner), you could naturally gain about 10-15 lbs of muscle per year.

    A year from now, your maintenance could increase by a whopping 195 calories per day, so you could liberalize your diet to the tune of one vanilla latte per day for a year of seriously focused weight training.

    You have to determine for yourself if it's worth it.

    13 calories per day? Closer to 6 calories per pound of skeletal muscle based on recent studies.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    edited July 2015
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Exercise does it. Diet does not.

    You lose weight by eating less calories than you burn.

    If that is you in the picture in the present day, you do not look like you need to lose any weight.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Deb2chef wrote: »
    I have started using Zen Shape which is an all natural product and its helping to boost my metabolism which has always been slow, amazing help and only in week 1

    Sorry, but no product has the ability to boost your metabolism, or to cause fat loss. It's probably just a diuretic, which causes water loss and not actual fat loss.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    You have to cut as much sugar and simple carbs as you can so no white flours whole grains only. Eat whole foods. You can eat fat and protein. ruch as butter and duck, all help boost metabolism. Drink green tea. Sugar raises insulin so stores fat. It's hard but think does a bar of chocolate have any nutrition. Chili's also boost metabolism

    No on all this.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    Troutsy wrote: »
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    You have to cut as much sugar and simple carbs as you can so no white flours whole grains only. Eat whole foods. You can eat fat and protein. ruch as butter and duck, all help boost metabolism. Drink green tea. Sugar raises insulin so stores fat. It's hard but think does a bar of chocolate have any nutrition. Chili's also boost metabolism

    Any peer reviewed studies to support your claims?

    It's simple thought. Sugar is in everything. Sugar increases insulin which makes your body store fat. Eat right that's it, fat helps burn fat fills you longer. Complex carbs and fibre do too. A variety of foods creates healthy gut bacteria which helps too

    Still bunk.

    Unless you can post some peer reviewed studied backing up your claim.
  • jeffpettis
    jeffpettis Posts: 865 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    You have to cut as much sugar and simple carbs as you can so no white flours whole grains only. Eat whole foods. You can eat fat and protein. ruch as butter and duck, all help boost metabolism. Drink green tea. Sugar raises insulin so stores fat. It's hard but think does a bar of chocolate have any nutrition. Chili's also boost metabolism

    Solid third post...

    Ummm... NO
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    Take stimulants.
    (No, really don't.)

    Caffeine can actually help with NEAT.

    Not enough to matter.
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    edited July 2015
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    Take stimulants.
    (No, really don't.)

    Caffeine can actually help with NEAT.

    Not enough to matter.

    It could increase your daily calories burned up to 150 calories a day for lean individuals. Over 1 pound a month of weight loss. I think that's enough to matter. Especially if you only have a few pounds to lose.

    http://m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/49/1/44.short
  • Healthexp693
    Healthexp693 Posts: 17 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    meal timing has nothing to do with metabolism.

    Well you can't say it has nothing to do with metabolism, given the definition of metabolism. Eating a meal results in increased thermogenesis. Eating smaller more frequent meals can be an effective way to lose weight as long as you don't overeat. When you skip a meal you are more likely to over eat. Eating More frequent meals is also important in the prevention and treatment of insulin resistance. Relying on websites from the Internet which take one or two studies and make grand conclusions from them is not a good idea. Yes there is conflicting data on the influence of post meal thermogenesis and resting metabolism, but not skipping meals is important in realizing long term weight goals
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    meal timing has nothing to do with metabolism.

    Well you can't say it has nothing to do with metabolism, given the definition of metabolism. Eating a meal results in increased thermogenesis. Eating smaller more frequent meals can be an effective way to lose weight as long as you don't overeat. When you skip a meal you are more likely to over eat. Eating More frequent meals is also important in the prevention and treatment of insulin resistance. Relying on websites from the Internet which take one or two studies and make grand conclusions from them is not a good idea. Yes there is conflicting data on the influence of post meal thermogenesis and resting metabolism, but not skipping meals is important in realizing long term weight goals

    Studies to support this? Preferably peer reviewed, I'm interested in this.
  • galgenstrick
    galgenstrick Posts: 2,086 Member
    edited July 2015
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    meal timing has nothing to do with metabolism.

    Well you can't say it has nothing to do with metabolism, given the definition of metabolism. Eating a meal results in increased thermogenesis. Eating smaller more frequent meals can be an effective way to lose weight as long as you don't overeat. When you skip a meal you are more likely to over eat. Eating More frequent meals is also important in the prevention and treatment of insulin resistance. Relying on websites from the Internet which take one or two studies and make grand conclusions from them is not a good idea. Yes there is conflicting data on the influence of post meal thermogenesis and resting metabolism, but not skipping meals is important in realizing long term weight goals

    This is wrong if you're implying the weight loss is from an increased thermogenesis, which I think you are given your previous sentence..

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494

    "More importantly, studies using whole-body calorimetry and doubly-labelled water to assess total 24 h energy expenditure find no difference between nibbling and gorging."


    In other words, big meals cause a bigger spike in metabolic rate than small meals, so it's a wash.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    She has 5 pounds to lose and is not in a position to add muscle mass unless she adds some calories. Even then, the effect on her metabolism? About 6 calories per pound of muscle added. Considering women don't make mad gainz due to lower testosterone levels, she's not going to significantly enhance her metabolic rate.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    meal timing has nothing to do with metabolism.

    Well you can't say it has nothing to do with metabolism, given the definition of metabolism. Eating a meal results in increased thermogenesis. Eating smaller more frequent meals can be an effective way to lose weight as long as you don't overeat. When you skip a meal you are more likely to over eat. Eating More frequent meals is also important in the prevention and treatment of insulin resistance. Relying on websites from the Internet which take one or two studies and make grand conclusions from them is not a good idea. Yes there is conflicting data on the influence of post meal thermogenesis and resting metabolism, but not skipping meals is important in realizing long term weight goals

    You like moving goal posts a lot.

    Skipping meals is irrelevant, if the calories consumed are the same.

    People who follow IF protocols (Lean Gains style) skip meals with mad abandon, and it works very, very well for them.

    You introduced a lot of weird arguments that might have nothing to do with the OP just to make some kind of vague point. You remind me very much of someone else in that regard.

  • miakristmann
    miakristmann Posts: 27 Member
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    Thank you so much!!! This really explains everything clearly everyone else is quite confusing
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    Thank you so much!!! This really explains everything clearly everyone else is quite confusing

    Not like you're actually going to gain a significant amount of muscle while in a deficit to burn a lot more calories though.. lol
  • miakristmann
    miakristmann Posts: 27 Member
    Zedeff wrote: »
    Having more muscle mass means you burn more calories; your TDEE and BMR are higher. However, the amount of muscle required to burn a significant amount of calories is pretty big.

    Agreed. Muscle takes about 13 calories per pound per day to maintain. If you've already been lifting (ie. you're not a beginner), you could naturally gain about 10-15 lbs of muscle per year.

    A year from now, your maintenance could increase by a whopping 195 calories per day, so you could liberalize your diet to the tune of one vanilla latte per day for a year of seriously focused weight training.

    You have to determine for yourself if it's worth it.

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    How do I boost metabolism with diet and exercising ??

    Yes boosting metabolism is important for longterm weight management. Adding muscle mass will boost your metabolism because muscle is more metabolically active then fat tissue and so you will burn more calories at rest. Also eating smaller meals more frequently. Stay away from products claiming to boost metabolism. Unless you actually have a nutrient deficiency or hormonal problem no need to take anything.

    Thank you so much!!! This really explains everything clearly everyone else is quite confusing

    Yeah the problem there though is that it's tabloid which is why you get it

    By tabloid I mean it's a basic principle incorrectly extrapolated to form a hypothesis that has no root in fact but is easily accepted because it buys into the entire dieting industry bollocks in order to sell magazines, products, diets

    You have accepted the one post that contains what you want to hear and yet you find the explanations of hey it's incorrect too hard to grasp?

    Maybe you should try re- reading until it makes sense
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  • miakristmann
    miakristmann Posts: 27 Member
    Oh my god... I literally just want to loose 5 pounds and be toned.... I don't want lifting gains or anything I just want to be fit. I honestly think a lot of what y'all are talking about has been taken to another level. A lot of what everyone is saying is contradicting so I have no idea what to believe at all...
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Oh my god... I literally just want to loose 5 pounds and be toned.... I don't want lifting gains or anything I just want to be fit. I honestly think a lot of what y'all are talking about has been taken to another level. A lot of what everyone is saying is contradicting so I have no idea what to believe at all...

    You want to lose 5lb

    Eat fewer calories than you burn across the week
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Oh my god... I literally just want to loose 5 pounds and be toned.... I don't want lifting gains or anything I just want to be fit. I honestly think a lot of what y'all are talking about has been taken to another level. A lot of what everyone is saying is contradicting so I have no idea what to believe at all...

    Ok OP i'll set it straight for you

    THERE IS NO WAY TO BOOST YOUR METABOLISM.

    Now go eat in a caloric deficit and lose your 5 pounds.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Oh my god... I literally just want to loose 5 pounds and be toned.... I don't want lifting gains or anything I just want to be fit. I honestly think a lot of what y'all are talking about has been taken to another level. A lot of what everyone is saying is contradicting so I have no idea what to believe at all...

    You want to lose 5lb

    Eat fewer calories than you burn across the week

    That's it!

    :drinker:

  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Why does nobody mention increasing NEAT? Exercise is fine and dandy and I get lots of it but still the vast majority of fluctuations in my TDEE come from NEAT.
  • miakristmann
    miakristmann Posts: 27 Member
    Why does nobody mention increasing NEAT? Exercise is fine and dandy and I get lots of it but still the vast majority of fluctuations in my TDEE come from NEAT.

    Can you explain NEAT and TDEE To me please?
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Why does nobody mention increasing NEAT? Exercise is fine and dandy and I get lots of it but still the vast majority of fluctuations in my TDEE come from NEAT.

    Can you explain NEAT and TDEE To me please?

    TDEE is Total Daily Energy Expenditure. This is the amount of calories your body needs to maintain it's weight with exercise calories included.

    NEAT is MFP's method. It does not include your activity levels.

    If you eat at your TDEE = don't eat back exercise calories
    If you eat at NEAT (MFP Method) = eat back 50-75% exercise calories
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    TDEE:
    Total daily caloric expenditure, consisting of basal metabolic rate, diet-induced thermogenesis, and energy expenditure for physical activity; in the clinical setting, TDEE can be estimated by calculation or measured by indirect calorimetry.

    NEAT: http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/expert-blog/neat-non-exercise-activity-thermogenesis/bgp-20056175
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    He means just basically get more active across the day ...where you took the car or bus, walk, where you sat down to eat go for a walk, clean more of your home more vigorously, take the stairs

    It doesn't have to be purposeful exercise like a gym workout ..move sedentary to active (2000 to 10,000 steps across the day) and you probably get an additional 350-450 calories to eat per day

  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    He means just basically get more active across the day ...where you took the car or bus, walk, where you sat down to eat go for a walk, clean more of your home more vigorously, take the stairs

    It doesn't have to be purposeful exercise like a gym workout ..move sedentary to active (2000 to 10,000 steps across the day) and you probably get an additional 350-450 calories to eat per day

    Yep, this. If I run 3 times a week, 6 miles each time, I will burn on average a little over 300 calories a day from about 3 hours a week of exercise. Meanwhile, just getting outside to mow the lawn and other yard work or just walking around and playing with the kids, etc, I can burn an extra 700 calories per day compared to what I burn sitting at my computer all day.

    Also if you're trying to increase your calories through exercise alone, there's a point where you get too much and you run into problems with overtraining and potential injuries.
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