Best breakfast. protein v fat v carbs

bobby19666
bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
edited November 21 in Health and Weight Loss
Views on best type of breakfast is it best to eat a high fat breakfast over cereal
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  • nosebag1212
    nosebag1212 Posts: 621 Member
    for fat loss it doesn't matter, what matters is overall macros/calories through the entire day/week
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Your question is too vague to answer.
  • bobby19666
    bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Your question is too vague to answer.

    Well will protein and fat aid weight loss more than a carb - cereal based diet such as all bran
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    Depends on your own individual goals.

    What I consider my "breakfast" is actually the third time I eat each day because I hardly count a pre-workout Quest bar or a serving of post-workout crust-less quiche a meal. Since I consume so much protein before breakfast and quite a bit at dinner as well, my breakfast meals tend to be a little lower in protein and higher in carbs. The only reason for that is to hit my macros every day. If I wasn't tracking macros, it wouldn't matter as much as long as the calories fit into my day. The fat content is usually 10 grams or less, but that's not planned - again, it's just what fits my macros.

    Keep in mind that I take in 130g protein daily and weigh 118 lbs, so I'm not restricting protein by avoiding a bunch of it at breakfast. I just see no point in doing IIFYM if I'm going to be way over in protein and therefore way under in carbs every day. Plus, carbs are delicious.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Your question is too vague to answer.

    Well will protein and fat aid weight loss more than a carb - cereal based diet such as all bran

    Any evidence to back this claim up?
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Your question is too vague to answer.

    Well will protein and fat aid weight loss more than a carb - cereal based diet such as all bran

    No. Eating the breakfast that has fewer calories, and provides the macros you need, when isolated from the rest of your diet, would be the ideal solution.
  • astrampe
    astrampe Posts: 2,169 Member
    It won't "aid fat loss" - only a calorie deficit will do that. It will keep you satisfied for longer, and prevent sudden drops in blood sugar, so you don't feel like eating within an hour after breakfast.....
    I mix my high protein, high fibre cereal with a protein shake from Costco instead of mixing it with plain milk...Still low in fat, but it keeps me full until noon.....
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited July 2015
    Depends on the person.

    Upon experimentation, I tend to be fuller with a higher protein breakfast, whether balanced between macros (my usual vegetable omelet with fruit and dairy or salmon) or higher in protein and carbs (my oatmeal with fruit and protein powder and veggies on the side), than with a higher fat OR higher carb breakfast that has less protein. So for me the protein content is most important and the relative amount of fat and carbs unimportant, except that it might affect what I choose to eat at later meals.

    I also like to have a breakfast that's larger, about 400 calories. Some people prefer smaller breakfasts.

    Also disagree re carbs at breakfast being bad for weight loss.
  • Monklady123
    Monklady123 Posts: 512 Member
    Personally I have to have fewer carbs in the morning. If I have a breakfast of just toast and coffee, or cold cereal, I get that mid-morning shaky-must-eat-everything-in-sight kind of hunger. If I eat more protein -- eggs, cheese, nuts -- then I'm hungry at lunchtime, but just an ordinary hunger.

    So for me I have to have protein in the morning, no question.
  • _lyndseybrooke_
    _lyndseybrooke_ Posts: 2,561 Member
    IsaackGMOON wrote: »
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Your question is too vague to answer.

    Well will protein and fat aid weight loss more than a carb - cereal based diet such as all bran

    Any evidence to back this claim up?

    It wasn't a claim - it was a question. It lacked a question mark, but it was definitely a question.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    LyndseyLovesToLift wrote: »
    IsaackGMOON wrote: »
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Your question is too vague to answer.

    Well will protein and fat aid weight loss more than a carb - cereal based diet such as all bran

    Any evidence to back this claim up?

    It wasn't a claim - it was a question. It lacked a question mark, but it was definitely a question.

    oh... derp :D
  • ibnfaqir
    ibnfaqir Posts: 139 Member
    who is claiming it was a question?
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  • DisneyDude85
    DisneyDude85 Posts: 428 Member
    I eat oatmeal (40g) with sliced almonds (5-10g), and then add whatever fruit is in season. I eat that around 8-8:30 and for the most part am good until lunch. Some days I get hungry in between, so I will grab a snack to hold me over (usually fruit, veggie, nuts, or jerky).
  • bobby19666
    bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
    Cheers everyone. Really want to keep blood sugars low.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    I've been making a smoothie for breakfast for the last couple weeks.
  • bobby19666
    bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I've been making a smoothie for breakfast for the last couple weeks.

    For me the amount of fruits will have too much sugar. Though good sugar, I read too much raises insulin storing fat. I'm not a body builder just want to tone down through swimming
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I've been making a smoothie for breakfast for the last couple weeks.

    For me the amount of fruits will have too much sugar. Though good sugar, I read too much raises insulin storing fat. I'm not a body builder just want to tone down through swimming

    Fat is easily stored without insulin
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    You will store fat if you eat more calories than you burn.

    You will not gain net fat if you eat fewer calories than you burn.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    edited July 2015
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I've been making a smoothie for breakfast for the last couple weeks.

    For me the amount of fruits will have too much sugar. Though good sugar, I read too much raises insulin storing fat. I'm not a body builder just want to tone down through swimming

    Only if you are in a calorie surplus...and ALL sugar is good :)
  • DisneyDude85
    DisneyDude85 Posts: 428 Member
    edited July 2015
    bobby19666 wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I've been making a smoothie for breakfast for the last couple weeks.

    For me the amount of fruits will have too much sugar. Though good sugar, I read too much raises insulin storing fat. I'm not a body builder just want to tone down through swimming

    Eat fruits with lower amts of sugar then. Berries are a great example. I've been eating cherries by the handful as they are in season and cheap right now. They have a high sugar content, and I am still losing. :)

    But as others have said, the sugar/insulin/fat storage broscience is nonsense. I eat a lot of fruit.
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Perhaps I missed it, do you have a medical reason to be concerned about sugars? If not, spend more time understanding how to consistently maintain a caloric deficit. Once you master the basic principal that governs all weight loss, feel free to "fine tune" your approach with more complicated matters. If you can't do the basics, why muck it up with other stuff? If you do have a medical reason to worry about your sugar intake, make that info known, as there are many here with loads of experience dealing with insulin issues.
  • wolfsbayne
    wolfsbayne Posts: 3,116 Member
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Perhaps I missed it, do you have a medical reason to be concerned about sugars? If not, spend more time understanding how to consistently maintain a caloric deficit. Once you master the basic principal that governs all weight loss, feel free to "fine tune" your approach with more complicated matters. If you can't do the basics, why muck it up with other stuff? If you do have a medical reason to worry about your sugar intake, make that info known, as there are many here with loads of experience dealing with insulin issues.

    +1
  • Stewnamie
    Stewnamie Posts: 17 Member
    DisneyDude85 wrote: »
    I eat oatmeal (40g) with sliced almonds (5-10g), and then add whatever fruit is in season. I eat that around 8-8:30 and for the most part am good until lunch. Some days I get hungry in between, so I will grab a snack to hold me over (usually fruit, veggie, nuts, or jerky).

    This is my exact meal of choice!
  • Stewnamie
    Stewnamie Posts: 17 Member
    I am curious about sugars.....I thought that sugar spikes caused fat to build up around your abdomen. I have NAFLD (non alcoholic fatty liver disease) and I have been told to erase as much sugar as possible from my diet to help melt away that fat surrounding my liver. It was suggested I only eat one piece of fruit a day. I have been eating this way for two weeks. I am getting used to it, but man do I miss fruit!
  • umayster
    umayster Posts: 651 Member
    if you eat fats and proteins for breakfast it will minimize or eliminate the spike in blood sugar. Fats and proteins also keep you from feeling hungry much longer than a carb filled breakfast if you are prone to being hungry not long after eating carbs.

    I eat 2-3 fried eggs for breakfast and don't even think about food again for 3-5 hours! It is very liberating and helps me stear clear of nutrient-sparse "fun" food that everyone else thinks is great to bring to work in the morning.
  • meulf6f
    meulf6f Posts: 32 Member
    Protein and fats work for me. I eat around 6am and fast until after my afternoon run, usually @6-7pm. Carbs trigger my hunger.
  • bobby19666
    bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Perhaps I missed it, do you have a medical reason to be concerned about sugars? If not, spend more time understanding how to consistently maintain a caloric deficit. Once you master the basic principal that governs all weight loss, feel free to "fine tune" your approach with more complicated matters. If you can't do the basics, why muck it up with other stuff? If you do have a medical reason to worry about your sugar intake, make that info known, as there are many here with loads of experience dealing with insulin issues.

    No medical reason. Just rather focus now than when it'd too late. Also want bod
    mantium999 wrote: »
    Perhaps I missed it, do you have a medical reason to be concerned about sugars? If not, spend more time understanding how to consistently maintain a caloric deficit. Once you master the basic principal that governs all weight loss, feel free to "fine tune" your approach with more complicated matters. If you can't do the basics, why muck it up with other stuff? If you do have a medical reason to worry about your sugar intake, make that info known, as there are many here with loads of experience dealing with insulin issues.

    No medical reason. Have a deficit everyday just focusing before its too late. Still eat fruit for snacks. Just think if I keep insulin low il burn more fat
  • leahcollett1
    leahcollett1 Posts: 807 Member
    umayster wrote: »
    if you eat fats and proteins for breakfast it will minimize or eliminate the spike in blood sugar. Fats and proteins also keep you from feeling hungry much longer than a carb filled breakfast if you are prone to being hungry not long after eating carbs.

    I eat 2-3 fried eggs for breakfast and don't even think about food again for 3-5 hours! It is very liberating and helps me stear clear of nutrient-sparse "fun" food that everyone else thinks is great to bring to work in the morning.

    this is interesting - i will try this tomorrow - can i have two boiled eggs instead?? as i always get hungry an hour or 2 after breakfast
  • bobby19666
    bobby19666 Posts: 57 Member
    Stewnamie wrote: »
    I am curious about sugars.....I thought that sugar spikes caused fat to build up around your abdomen. I have NAFLD (non alcoholic fatty liver disease) and I have been told to erase as much sugar as possible from my diet to help melt away that fat surrounding my liver. It was suggested I only eat one piece of fruit a day. I have been eating this way for two weeks. I am getting used to it, but man do I miss fruit!
    Stewnamie wrote: »
    I am curious about sugars.....I thought that sugar spikes caused fat to build up around your abdomen. I have NAFLD (non alcoholic fatty liver disease) and I have been told to erase as much sugar as possible from my diet to help melt away that fat surrounding my liver. It was suggested I only eat one piece of fruit a day. I have been eating this way for two weeks. I am getting used to it, but man do I miss fruit!

    I heard this too, one I'm toned il be ok. Snacking at work was my down fall. Though it was crap I was eating flapjack crisps and chocolate bar 1000 cal. That wasn't helpful, but canteen food is dire lol
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