Sugestions on supplements please!!
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Laurenjenai wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
BCAA'S (was supposed to help maintain your muscle mass, something like protien)
Acidophilus Two Billion (heard it was good for you)
B 12 ( I heard it increases your metabolism)
Maca (I LOST TONS OF FAT doing my cardio therefore lost some of my booty lol I wanted to achieve that big booty I previously had and heard this worked plus it was said to increase your sexual desire which couldn't hurt either, so I tried. In addition to taking I did major Squats and weight training so I'm not sure which really did the trick or if it assisted)
Biotin (Mainly I took to see if it would help with my skin. Couldn't tell u for sure if it was the biotin that worked or the excessive water I was drinking and sweating to get rid of toxins that improved m
One post recommending the OP pump her body full of unregulated, expensive "supplements of the week" that make false promises: Sure! I'll try that!
I guess some people feel the need to fork over cash for pills to feel like they're accomplishing something?
If I were a lesser person (or just more desperate), I'd get in on this cash cow. If the MFP forums have taught me anything, it's that people will still pay good money for snake oil.
If you ever decide to, please count me in on it. I'm not evil enough to do it on my own but I'll be an excellent minion.
See the poster with the long list of supplements they took - no evidence that any of them had any effect but she is still recommending them! People are crazy for pills, that's all it is.
Im not recommending, just telling her what I used, and what I THOUGHT contributed on my journey, may I add SUCCESSFUL journey. Secondly I am glad to say I am the only one to recieve a thanks from the forum creator while everyone else is just being NEGATIVE, JUDGEMENTAL, OR JUST BORED.
NO WONDER I STOPPED USING THE FORUM PPL JUST NEED ATTN...
Says the person who was just negative, being judgmental about other people, and types in caps (which means it draws attention to you).
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I'm on several supplements, and all were recommended by my physician. It would be irresponsible of me to list or recommend them in a public forum, IMO.
And none are for weight loss. That's what a calorie deficit is for.
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Supplements are made to add on top of food and its usually working within a certain plan or goal.. I myself require 400gm of protein a day to hit my steength goals so i have to add on at least 2-3 shakes a day otherwise im eating like 2 chickens, a whole cow and a *kitten* load of fish. Just atick to low gi foods, a good source of protein and that would suffice.0
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Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
The part in bold is revealing.Supplements are made to add on top of food and its usually working within a certain plan or goal.. I myself require 400gm of protein a day to hit my steength goals so i have to add on at least 2-3 shakes a day otherwise im eating like 2 chickens, a whole cow and a *kitten* load of fish. Just atick to low gi foods, a good source of protein and that would suffice.
400 grams based on what science?0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
The part in bold is revealing.Supplements are made to add on top of food and its usually working within a certain plan or goal.. I myself require 400gm of protein a day to hit my steength goals so i have to add on at least 2-3 shakes a day otherwise im eating like 2 chickens, a whole cow and a *kitten* load of fish. Just atick to low gi foods, a good source of protein and that would suffice.
400 grams based on what science?
Its the keto phase of my training. my tdee is 4500 cals. Eating at too great a deficit i end up losing a *kitten* load of muscle and strength which is not ideal for my sport. As for the science...i wish i knew how to link things haha0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
The part in bold is revealing.Supplements are made to add on top of food and its usually working within a certain plan or goal.. I myself require 400gm of protein a day to hit my steength goals so i have to add on at least 2-3 shakes a day otherwise im eating like 2 chickens, a whole cow and a *kitten* load of fish. Just atick to low gi foods, a good source of protein and that would suffice.
400 grams based on what science?
Its the keto phase of my training. my tdee is 4500 cals. Eating at too great a deficit i end up losing a *kitten* load of muscle and strength which is not ideal for my sport. As for the science...i wish i knew how to link things haha
Cutting and pasting links is difficult.0 -
Laurenjenai wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
BCAA'S (was supposed to help maintain your muscle mass, something like protien)
Acidophilus Two Billion (heard it was good for you)
B 12 ( I heard it increases your metabolism)
Maca (I LOST TONS OF FAT doing my cardio therefore lost some of my booty lol I wanted to achieve that big booty I previously had and heard this worked plus it was said to increase your sexual desire which couldn't hurt either, so I tried. In addition to taking I did major Squats and weight training so I'm not sure which really did the trick or if it assisted)
Biotin (Mainly I took to see if it would help with my skin. Couldn't tell u for sure if it was the biotin that worked or the excessive water I was drinking and sweating to get rid of toxins that improved m
One post recommending the OP pump her body full of unregulated, expensive "supplements of the week" that make false promises: Sure! I'll try that!
I guess some people feel the need to fork over cash for pills to feel like they're accomplishing something?
If I were a lesser person (or just more desperate), I'd get in on this cash cow. If the MFP forums have taught me anything, it's that people will still pay good money for snake oil.
If you ever decide to, please count me in on it. I'm not evil enough to do it on my own but I'll be an excellent minion.
See the poster with the long list of supplements they took - no evidence that any of them had any effect but she is still recommending them! People are crazy for pills, that's all it is.
Im not recommending, just telling her what I used, and what I THOUGHT contributed on my journey, may I add SUCCESSFUL journey. Secondly I am glad to say I am the only one to recieve a thanks from the forum creator while everyone else is just being NEGATIVE, JUDGEMENTAL, OR JUST BORED.
NO WONDER I STOPPED USING THE FORUM PPL JUST NEED ATTN...
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Liftng4Lis wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »UltimateRBF wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Alyssa_Is_LosingIt wrote: »Laurenjenai wrote: »Everyone has their own strong opinions and thoughts about supplements, but I can tell you what I took during my journey. Keep in mind I had a pretty intense workout schedule and definitely controlled my eating as well so I can't say if the supplements actually did anything for me.
BCAA'S (was supposed to help maintain your muscle mass, something like protien)
Acidophilus Two Billion (heard it was good for you)
B 12 ( I heard it increases your metabolism)
Maca (I LOST TONS OF FAT doing my cardio therefore lost some of my booty lol I wanted to achieve that big booty I previously had and heard this worked plus it was said to increase your sexual desire which couldn't hurt either, so I tried. In addition to taking I did major Squats and weight training so I'm not sure which really did the trick or if it assisted)
Biotin (Mainly I took to see if it would help with my skin. Couldn't tell u for sure if it was the biotin that worked or the excessive water I was drinking and sweating to get rid of toxins that improved m
One post recommending the OP pump her body full of unregulated, expensive "supplements of the week" that make false promises: Sure! I'll try that!
I guess some people feel the need to fork over cash for pills to feel like they're accomplishing something?
If I were a lesser person (or just more desperate), I'd get in on this cash cow. If the MFP forums have taught me anything, it's that people will still pay good money for snake oil.
If you ever decide to, please count me in on it. I'm not evil enough to do it on my own but I'll be an excellent minion.
See the poster with the long list of supplements they took - no evidence that any of them had any effect but she is still recommending them! People are crazy for pills, that's all it is.
Im not recommending, just telling her what I used, and what I THOUGHT contributed on my journey, may I add SUCCESSFUL journey. Secondly I am glad to say I am the only one to recieve a thanks from the forum creator while everyone else is just being NEGATIVE, JUDGEMENTAL, OR JUST BORED.
NO WONDER I STOPPED USING THE FORUM PPL JUST NEED ATTN...
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People always looking for quick weight loss diets, pills, etc. I tried all of it and loss weight to only gain it back again, plus more, it doesn't teach you anything about moderation, etc. Now that I have done it the right way, eating at a reasonable deficit and exercised and boom!!! I lost 121 pounds in 2 years and 9 months, yes that's slow, but it was healthy, sustainable weight loss and now been maintaining for 10 months now.0
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Supplements are made to add on top of food and its usually working within a certain plan or goal.. I myself require 400gm of protein a day to hit my steength goals so i have to add on at least 2-3 shakes a day otherwise im eating like 2 chickens, a whole cow and a *kitten* load of fish. Just atick to low gi foods, a good source of protein and that would suffice.
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snowflakesav wrote: »Supplements can be effective if you have a deficit of a key nutrient. It is hard to diagnose the deficits. In women athletes iron is the big one. With many of us athletes summer exercise and sweat loss can create magnesium deficiency. It is a learning process. A one size fits all multi vitamin or gummy vitamin is potentially causing more harm than good.
New research is indicating that supplements can inhibit the bodies repair process so don't assume 1000 times the daily allowance of vitamin c and folate aren't hurting you!
Fish oil is highly recommended... This product like all supplements is not regulated for safety so know your Mercury risk.
Thank you!
I was not on here looking for pills to aid in weight loss...I'm doing the work myself (80% nutrition/20%exercise) I was just wondering about supplements like fish oil, iron, vitamin-d, etc.0 -
snowflakesav wrote: »Supplements can be effective if you have a deficit of a key nutrient. It is hard to diagnose the deficits. In women athletes iron is the big one. With many of us athletes summer exercise and sweat loss can create magnesium deficiency. It is a learning process. A one size fits all multi vitamin or gummy vitamin is potentially causing more harm than good.
New research is indicating that supplements can inhibit the bodies repair process so don't assume 1000 times the daily allowance of vitamin c and folate aren't hurting you!
Fish oil is highly recommended... This product like all supplements is not regulated for safety so know your Mercury risk.
Thank you!
I was not on here looking for pills to aid in weight loss...I'm doing the work myself (80% nutrition/20%exercise) I was just wondering about supplements like fish oil, iron, vitamin-d, etc.
I take fish oil and a multi vitamin and vitamin D
This because my doctor advised it ( and they are not for weight loss)
My idea is that you let your doctor run some lab tests and let him suggest what you need. Because nobody here knows what you are missing or have to much.
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No supplement will help you lose weight. Depending on your diet a quality multivitamin should not cause any harm and will fill in the gaps, especially for minerals, that you may be missing.
I take a separate calcium supplement since my multivitamin only contains 33% of the RDA. I am not a fan of dairy products, especially milk. While leafy greens contain some calcium it's not enough to achieve my RDA on a consistent basis.
Evaluate the nutrients in your diet and if you have any health conditions check with your doctor before taking anything.
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TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »snowflakesav wrote: »Supplements can be effective if you have a deficit of a key nutrient. It is hard to diagnose the deficits. In women athletes iron is the big one. With many of us athletes summer exercise and sweat loss can create magnesium deficiency. It is a learning process. A one size fits all multi vitamin or gummy vitamin is potentially causing more harm than good.
New research is indicating that supplements can inhibit the bodies repair process so don't assume 1000 times the daily allowance of vitamin c and folate aren't hurting you!
Fish oil is highly recommended... This product like all supplements is not regulated for safety so know your Mercury risk.
Thank you!
I was not on here looking for pills to aid in weight loss...I'm doing the work myself (80% nutrition/20%exercise) I was just wondering about supplements like fish oil, iron, vitamin-d, etc.
I take fish oil and a multi vitamin and vitamin D
This because my doctor advised it ( and they are not for weight loss)
My idea is that you let your doctor run some lab tests and let him suggest what you need. Because nobody here knows what you are missing or have to much.
Great idea...and thanks again!
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i wouldn't play around with too many supplements unless you have reason to believe you need them (after a blood test). lots of people who live in north america are deficient in vit d, so supplementing with d3 can be useful - but too much can affect your liver without a proper balance of calcium (and some studies have shown negative effects from calcium supplements; also calcium needs to be balanced against magnesium). if you take one thing, it might throw others out of whack.
if nothing's wrong, it's better to get as much as you can from food sources in a balanced diet. (seems synthetic vitamins aren't always processed by everyone the same way as ones from food. e.g. a study of smokers found those who took supplements with synthetic vit A had increased risk of certain cancers; smokers who got vit A from food did not. that may just have something to do with smokers particularly, i don't know, but there's definitely no harm in getting nutrients from food.)0 -
TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »snowflakesav wrote: »Supplements can be effective if you have a deficit of a key nutrient. It is hard to diagnose the deficits. In women athletes iron is the big one. With many of us athletes summer exercise and sweat loss can create magnesium deficiency. It is a learning process. A one size fits all multi vitamin or gummy vitamin is potentially causing more harm than good.
New research is indicating that supplements can inhibit the bodies repair process so don't assume 1000 times the daily allowance of vitamin c and folate aren't hurting you!
Fish oil is highly recommended... This product like all supplements is not regulated for safety so know your Mercury risk.
Thank you!
I was not on here looking for pills to aid in weight loss...I'm doing the work myself (80% nutrition/20%exercise) I was just wondering about supplements like fish oil, iron, vitamin-d, etc.
I take fish oil and a multi vitamin and vitamin D
This because my doctor advised it ( and they are not for weight loss)
My idea is that you let your doctor run some lab tests and let him suggest what you need. Because nobody here knows what you are missing or have to much.
Right, I was pressed for time last night and knew I had another tested deficiency - Vitamin D.
Funny thing about tests at doctor's - requesting generic blood work often isn't effective. Despite having first been diagnosed with anemia at 20, I always have to request this test. And despite my cholesterol levels being fine all my life, I never have to request this. When I moved from sunny South Florida to Massachusetts, getting tested for Vitamin D deficiency was my idea, not my doctor's.
Here's an interesting recent small study about an increased need for Vitamin D in overweight/obese African Americans:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/2052-9538/2/27
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/vitamin.d.deficiency.news.black.and.obese.people.need.more.vitamin.d.new.research.claims/58475.htm
A new research report has found that the standard recommendation on the daily vitamin D requirement is not enough to establish healthy levels of the vitamin in black and obese individuals.
The published report in the journal BioMed Central Obesity studied the effects of taking vitamin D supplements in 70 black participants who belong anywhere between overweight and obese.
These healthy participants are aged below 50 years old and are living in the southeastern United States, according to Science Daily.
The upper daily limit for the supplementation is at 4,000 international units (IU), previously at 2,000 IU, as recommended by the Institute of Medicine. The recommended daily dose of vitamin D set by the institute is 600 IU for most children and adults.
Researchers found out that 600 IU was not enough to restore a desired level of the vitamin in the blood within 16 weeks. They also discovered that more than triple the suggested dose was needed to establish healthy levels of the vitamin in the blood.0 -
Gah. Picking supplements because you heard they might be "good for you" is throwing money away or worse. I tried Niacin because I heard it was good for my immune system and I got an immune response all right. I itched all over like I had hives. Dropped the Niacin, lost the symptoms.
A simple battery of tests from the doctor, annually, can rule out deficiencies like thyroid, insulin, high blood pressure, cholesterol, and for women, iron. These are the biggies. Also, young women of child bearing years should take Folic Acid.
Nearly everyone in the northern hemisphere is deficient in vitamin D.
They must not cover niacin flush in med school, because a psychiatrist friend of mine was unaware of this as well:
Niacin: The facts on flushing
The BC Drug & Poison Information Centre commonly receives calls from patients who are experiencing an adverse reaction to over-the-counter niacin. Typically patients are taking the drug for the first time in higher doses for hypercholesterolemia or other indications. Usually, they are quite concerned about an "allergic" reaction to the vitamin. Here are some commonly asked questions and answers about flushing from niacin:
Q: I recently started taking niacin for high cholesterol. The first time I took it I experienced a hot flushing sensation on my skin that took an hour to go away. I thought I was having an allergic reaction. Can you tell me what happened?
Niacin (nicotinic acid vitamin), or vitamin B3, is an essential vitamin. Adults require a daily dietary intake of about 15 mg. At much higher doses (1000 to 2000 mg per day) niacin is used as a treatment for high cholesterol.
These higher doses of niacin cause an intense flushing or "prickly heat" sensation to the face and upper body, usually 15-30 minutes after taking a relatively large dose (e.g. 500 mg). This flushing is experienced by almost everyone and, while it might feel like an allergy, it is not a true allergic reaction.
Other than causing discomfort the flushing is harmless and usually subsides within 1 or 2 hours. Symptoms are most intense after the first dose and typically diminish over days or weeks with continued use of niacin.
...Q: If I continue to take the regular niacin tablets, are there any tips to minimize the flushing?
The key to reducing the intensity of niacin flushing is to start with a low dose and gradually increase the dose over a period of weeks. Taking it with food also helps reduce the intensity of the reaction.
One approach is to start immediate-release niacin at 100 mg twice daily after a meal for the first week, then double the daily dose each week until you are taking what the doctor has prescribed.
Aspirin will also help to reduce the flushing. If you are already taking low-dose aspirin (81 to 325 mg daily) try taking it about 30 minutes before your first niacin dose of the day.
Read more: http://www.dpic.org/article/professional/niacin-facts-flushing0 -
I hate to reopen this topic due to all the negativity I recieved, but if it helps the OP then that's all that matters. I forgot about Spirulina, when I was taking supplements this was one that was suggested to me. Research and decide on your own 0
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kshama2001 wrote: »TheOwlhouseDesigns wrote: »snowflakesav wrote: »Supplements can be effective if you have a deficit of a key nutrient. It is hard to diagnose the deficits. In women athletes iron is the big one. With many of us athletes summer exercise and sweat loss can create magnesium deficiency. It is a learning process. A one size fits all multi vitamin or gummy vitamin is potentially causing more harm than good.
New research is indicating that supplements can inhibit the bodies repair process so don't assume 1000 times the daily allowance of vitamin c and folate aren't hurting you!
Fish oil is highly recommended... This product like all supplements is not regulated for safety so know your Mercury risk.
Thank you!
I was not on here looking for pills to aid in weight loss...I'm doing the work myself (80% nutrition/20%exercise) I was just wondering about supplements like fish oil, iron, vitamin-d, etc.
I take fish oil and a multi vitamin and vitamin D
This because my doctor advised it ( and they are not for weight loss)
My idea is that you let your doctor run some lab tests and let him suggest what you need. Because nobody here knows what you are missing or have to much.
Right, I was pressed for time last night and knew I had another tested deficiency - Vitamin D.
Funny thing about tests at doctor's - requesting generic blood work often isn't effective. Despite having first been diagnosed with anemia at 20, I always have to request this test. And despite my cholesterol levels being fine all my life, I never have to request this. When I moved from sunny South Florida to Massachusetts, getting tested for Vitamin D deficiency was my idea, not my doctor's.
Here's an interesting recent small study about an increased need for Vitamin D in overweight/obese African Americans:
http://www.biomedcentral.com/2052-9538/2/27
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/vitamin.d.deficiency.news.black.and.obese.people.need.more.vitamin.d.new.research.claims/58475.htm
A new research report has found that the standard recommendation on the daily vitamin D requirement is not enough to establish healthy levels of the vitamin in black and obese individuals.
The published report in the journal BioMed Central Obesity studied the effects of taking vitamin D supplements in 70 black participants who belong anywhere between overweight and obese.
These healthy participants are aged below 50 years old and are living in the southeastern United States, according to Science Daily.
The upper daily limit for the supplementation is at 4,000 international units (IU), previously at 2,000 IU, as recommended by the Institute of Medicine. The recommended daily dose of vitamin D set by the institute is 600 IU for most children and adults.
Researchers found out that 600 IU was not enough to restore a desired level of the vitamin in the blood within 16 weeks. They also discovered that more than triple the suggested dose was needed to establish healthy levels of the vitamin in the blood.
My tests (almost monthly monitored) done are not genetic blood tests but for a special program i am in for over 20 years now ( nothing to do with weight loss).
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