Intermittent Fasting
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I do it, helps me with diet compliance, quite a few studies around GH and other hormone improvements around fat loss and muscle retention. It's nice to train heavy on just BCAA's in the morning and eat a monster lunch.
Also check out Eat-Stop-Eat, by Brad Pilon... he is the research guy who provides a lot of good material to review. (Alan Aragon as well) and the usual LeanGains suspects (Berkhan)
also 31minutes AMA PDF on reddit is a good read for application0 -
During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.
I was sharing my experience. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change what happened to me. There are probably people who never have and never will experience a plateau. I'm not a member of that club.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.
I was sharing my experience. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change what happened to me. There are probably people who never have and never will experience a plateau. I'm not a member of that club.0 -
midwesterner85 wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.
I was sharing my experience. You can believe it or not, but that doesn't change what happened to me. There are probably people who never have and never will experience a plateau. I'm not a member of that club.
I didn't lose or gain when I was eating at a small daily deficit for months prior to the IF. I didn't lose or gain during ht IF, eating 9K-10K calories some days (pretty close to zero calories other days), and at a net surplus calorie consumption for 6 weeks. Afterwards, I went back to a small daily deficit for months. I didn't gain or lose until the "whoosh" (where I lost 7 lbs. in a few days), and I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh because I had not changed anything for more than 2 months since quitting the IF plan.
Just because you don't understand something doesn't mean it didn't happen. Not everything is as simple as CICO = immediate gain or loss.0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.
Also, there are scholarly journal articles that explain what happens in a plateau. Not only do plateaus exist, but scientists have even figured out what happens in a plateau and published their research to the rest of the scientific community.0 -
GuitarJerry wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »PrizePopple wrote: »midwesterner85 wrote: »During my first long plateau, after a couple months without losses, I got frustrated and took to the forums.
Someone suggested a version of IF. I tried it for 6 weeks and had the same binges that others have metioned at first. I'd literally eat 9K-10K calories some days, though I would log everything I ate. By the end of the 6 weeks, I was down to only eating around 5K-6K calories when I was finally allowed to eat. It didn't work to end my plateau. I didn't gain any weight with the high calorie level (because I was in a plateau, which means no matter what or how much I do or do not eat, I don't gain or lose), nor did I lose any because of the change in diet plan. After 6 weeks, I went back to a normal daily deficit and then had a "whoosh" to end the plateau a couple months later (I'm not sure what triggered the whoosh).
The only remarkable thing that I noticed was that rather than fluctuating up and down within a few lbs. every time I weighed myself (yes, fluctuations still happen in a plateau, but permanent losses do not), they would fluctuate large amounts. There was once that I even gained 9 lbs. in a few hours time before losing it again over the next day.
The bolded statement makes no sense at all. If you are eating more calories than your body needs to maintain you will gain. If you eat less than your body needs to maintain you will lose. End of story. A plateau is not some magical place where physics do not exist.
Also, there are scholarly journal articles that explain what happens in a plateau. Not only do plateaus exist, but scientists have even figured out what happens in a plateau and published their research to the rest of the scientific community.
LOL. I'm a non-believer. Look at kids in Africa. I'm sure they aren't starving because...plateaus.
1. Plateaus do not affect everybody.
2. Plateaus do not last as long as food shortages in some areas of Africa.
Your point fails to recognize these. Again, believe or do not believe... it doesn't change my experience either way. It doesn't change the science either way.
ETA: I'm going to stop at this point because this thread has become an argument about whether I could have possibly had a plateau / whoosh rather than about intermitent fasting. I've made my point that I've tried it during a plateau without success. I'm not going to contribute to any additional deviation from the topic.0 -
Is anyone doing this?
Here is a group that is somewhat active:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/49-intermittent-fasting
I eat my first meal of the day in the late afternoon and have something else in the evening (18:6).
There are other versions of IF.0 -
im over in the UK doing a 16:8 daily fast and following the Kinobody program (Warrior shredding program)0
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