why bulking without weight training is a stupid idea

workout_freak89
workout_freak89 Posts: 354 Member
in Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat, here are the other reasons why high body fat sucks
  • high body fat is inversely related to serum testosterone...add that to low muscle mass
  • hello BxIxTxCxH TxIxTXS
    more adipose tissue means more aromatase---> this means the little T you still have circulating in your system will be getting converted to estrogen..
  • low libido, impotence, more fatigue, weaker bones
  • Diabetes 2
  • fatty liver
  • insert couple of more diseases

bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
there's a difference between being big and being plump
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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    Well, bulking means trying to add muscle so they would be weight training.

    Not all people gaining weight are bulking. Some need more body fat and lifting would be a horrible idea for them, at least in the beginning.
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    edited July 2015
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat..
    Permanently? I think you may be overstating your case a little too strongly.
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    here are the other reasons why high body fat sucks

    What do you consider high? Your body fat isn't exactly low, so where are you drawing the line? Anyone with higher body fat than you?
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    nakedraygun wrote: »
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat..
    Permanently? I think you may be overstating your case a little too strongly.

    Didn't you know that you can never ever EVER lose weight. EVER.
  • AJ_G
    AJ_G Posts: 4,158 Member
    edited July 2015
    This thread is pointless...
  • giantrobot_powerlifting
    giantrobot_powerlifting Posts: 2,598 Member
    edited July 2015
    usmcmp wrote: »
    nakedraygun wrote: »
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat..
    Permanently? I think you may be overstating your case a little too strongly.

    Didn't you know that you can never ever EVER lose weight. EVER.
    Dang. The minor cut I just did tho... I must be some kind of special snowflake. lol.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat, here are the other reasons why high body fat sucks
    • high body fat is inversely related to serum testosterone...add that to low muscle mass
    • hello BxIxTxCxH TxIxTXS
      more adipose tissue means more aromatase---> this means the little T you still have circulating in your system will be getting converted to estrogen..
    • low libido, impotence, more fatigue, weaker bones
    • Diabetes 2
    • fatty liver
    • insert couple of more diseases

    bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
    there's a difference between being big and being plump

    OP.... you don't exactly have low bodyfat....
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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    asflatasapancake wrote: »
    I didn't think this thread would go well. My suspicions were correct.

    Out of curiosity, did you expect the responses to come from lifters or non-lifters?
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  • ew_david
    ew_david Posts: 3,473 Member
    Captain Obvious to the rescue
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  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
    edited July 2015
    After reading the title, I came here to read the comments. I was not disappointed.

    Anyway, would like to contribute some things.
    asflatasapancake wrote: »
    I'm guessing lifters would be more likely to respond since we are in the bulking section.

    Bulking & other weight gaining. Not everyone is here to bulk, some people just want to be at a healthy weight instead of underweight.

    Which brings me to the next point

    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat,

    You know what, some people are happy to have some extra fat. Fat does not equal bad.
    Seriously, if you come from underweight, all weight including fat can feel really good. Also, not everyone feels the desire to be all muscled and toned.
    I am certainly not either of those, but still fit in a size S and feel like I look pretty damn good while being "skinny fat".

  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Who bulks without weigh training? It's kind of a package deal...
  • AliceDark
    AliceDark Posts: 3,886 Member
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
    Do you realize that there are people in ED recovery who use this section? Do you also realize that weight lifting is contraindicated for a lot of people in some stages of ED recovery because they can break bones and have heart attacks?

    Yes, I realize that your title specifies "bulking," but there are people in this section who don't understand the difference between bulking and weight restoration. Your advice is too obvious for the lifters, and phenomenally bad for the people in recovery.

  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    AliceDark wrote: »
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
    Do you realize that there are people in ED recovery who use this section? Do you also realize that weight lifting is contraindicated for a lot of people in some stages of ED recovery because they can break bones and have heart attacks?

    Yes, I realize that your title specifies "bulking," but there are people in this section who don't understand the difference between bulking and weight restoration. Your advice is too obvious for the lifters, and phenomenally bad for the people in recovery.

    So basically, fail all around huh?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    edited July 2015
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat, here are the other reasons why high body fat sucks
    • high body fat is inversely related to serum testosterone...add that to low muscle mass
    • hello BxIxTxCxH TxIxTXS
      more adipose tissue means more aromatase---> this means the little T you still have circulating in your system will be getting converted to estrogen..
    • low libido, impotence, more fatigue, weaker bones
    • Diabetes 2
    • fatty liver
    • insert couple of more diseases

    bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
    there's a difference between being big and being plump

    OP me thinks you are not following your own advice..

    and who runs a bulk without a progressive lifting program?
  • PrizePopple
    PrizePopple Posts: 3,133 Member
    nakedraygun wrote: »
    usmcmp wrote: »
    nakedraygun wrote: »
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat..
    Permanently? I think you may be overstating your case a little too strongly.

    Didn't you know that you can never ever EVER lose weight. EVER.
    Dang. The minor cut I just did tho... I must be some kind of special snowflake. lol.

    Do you have a magic mirror? I bet that's what made your adipose disappear.

    Mine does this while I sleep...

    adiposebaby.gif
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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    edited July 2015
    workout_freak89 wrote: »
    apart from the fact that all the calorie excess will go into your system and permanently settle as fat, here are the other reasons why high body fat sucks
    • high body fat is inversely related to serum testosterone...add that to low muscle mass
    • hello BxIxTxCxH TxIxTXS
      more adipose tissue means more aromatase---> this means the little T you still have circulating in your system will be getting converted to estrogen..
      low libido, impotence, more fatigue, weaker bones
    • Diabetes 2
    • fatty liver
    • insert couple of more diseases

    bottom line..don't be a moron..weight train ALWAYS while in a calorie surplus with sufficient protein
    there's a difference between being big and being plump
    Bolded parts are also common complaints for cutting, so, damned if you do, damned if you don't?
    Also, we get it, you're afraid of icky girl hormones and only want manly man hormones in your system.
  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    Also, scoped your profile.
    A. Homo neanderthalis weren't human ancestors, well I mean for certain populations they were in the same sense that homo sapiens are human ancestors, as both species exist concurrently and interbred to a tiny extent.
    B. Neanderthals aren't the muscle bound brutes the 1950s textbooks portray. They also probably had really high pitch voices.

    In conclusion, do you even science bro?
  • Nony_Mouse
    Nony_Mouse Posts: 5,648 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Also, scoped your profile.
    A. Homo neanderthalis weren't human ancestors, well I mean for certain populations they were in the same sense that homo sapiens are human ancestors, as both species exist concurrently and interbred to a tiny extent.
    B. Neanderthals aren't the muscle bound brutes the 1950s textbooks portray. They also probably had really high pitch voices.

    In conclusion, do you even science bro?

    Ahahaha, also scoped profile, that is gold! So much this little archaeologist could say on that one...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    from OP's profile:

    our predecessors homo neanderthals were strong and powerful creatures with amazing physiques drug free... it's a shame homo sapiens has grown weak , fragile and frail.!! a weak person is a burden to himself and the society and will get eliminated sooner or later by natural selection... and i don't want to be one of them...i want to look myself in the mirror and feel proud not shame and disgust

    so you want to base your existence off an extinct species? You do realize that homo sapiens won out because they were genetically superior, right?
  • jimmmer
    jimmmer Posts: 3,515 Member
    What am I reading?

    What happened to this section? It used to be gold. Used to be...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    jimmmer wrote: »
    What am I reading?

    What happened to this section? It used to be gold. Used to be...

    trying to keep it clean man ...

    but the bro's are endless in number....
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  • Vcorz
    Vcorz Posts: 75 Member
    AsISmile wrote: »
    After reading the title, I came here to read the comments. I was not disappointed.

    Anyway, would like to contribute some things.
    asflatasapancake wrote: »
    I'm guessing lifters would be more likely to respond since we are in the bulking section.

    Bulking & other weight gaining. Not everyone is here to bulk, some people just want to be at a healthy weight instead of underweight.

    Which brings me to the next point




    You know what, some people are happy to have some extra fat. Fat does not equal bad.
    Seriously, if you come from underweight, all weight including fat can feel really good. Also, not everyone feels the desire to be all muscled and toned.
    I am certainly not either of those, but still fit in a size S and feel like I look pretty damn good while being "skinny fat".

    Exactly this...a lot of people who are underweight are happier and healthier after just gaining some fat, which is not a bad word. Even a small little belly is better than being underweight.
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  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    senecarr wrote: »
    Also, scoped your profile.
    A. Homo neanderthalis weren't human ancestors, well I mean for certain populations they were in the same sense that homo sapiens are human ancestors, as both species exist concurrently and interbred to a tiny extent.
    B. Neanderthals aren't the muscle bound brutes the 1950s textbooks portray. They also probably had really high pitch voices.

    In conclusion, do you even science bro?

    :laugh:
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