Binge eating disorder

marwyvi
marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
anybody here with a success story of overcoming ED ? Or still struggling? I do myselft, i'm on a diet and my friends tell me to encorporate "cheat day" i'm very afraid not to get into an emocional eating cycle, but i'm also craving everything around me :(

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  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage

    Go see a specialist that can help you figure this out. You need specialized treatment for BED.

    Dieting is definitely a no-no when you are still in the grips of an ED. Perhaps try incorporating more food in moderation, or eating at maintenance? That's all I got-sorry. A professional will be much more helpful.
  • IsaackGMOON
    IsaackGMOON Posts: 3,358 Member
    edited July 2015
    marwyvi wrote: »
    Talk to your recovery team or psychiatrist.

    Your friends are stupid for suggesting a cheat day while you have an ED which involves binge eating.

    I've not told them. Haven't told anyone actually. I know what psychiatrists would say and i know the reasons behind it, just don't know how to satisfy my cravings without going on a rampage

    Stop asking MFP and talk to your recovery team and/or psychiatrist. We cannot help you OP.
  • triciab79
    triciab79 Posts: 1,713 Member
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
    edited July 2015
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it
  • Lizzles4Shizzles
    Lizzles4Shizzles Posts: 122 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
    "ED is 100% psychological problem".......not necessarily! Most people binge directly in response to their physical restriction and it becomes a cycle. A cycle that unfortunately gets all emotionally/mentally complicated. Check out Geneen Roth. I spent years in the diet-binge cycle. You have to stop dieting to stop the binges.
    You say you need to lose weight, but until you get out of this cycle, it's really hard (impossible) to lose weight long term. Treat the dieting, treat the binges and then you'll be able to start losing weight.
  • Lizzles4Shizzles
    Lizzles4Shizzles Posts: 122 Member
    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.

    Agreed.
  • CostaRica120
    CostaRica120 Posts: 274 Member
    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.

    Agreed.

    Absolutely. I don't believe in relying on willpower for overcoming EDs or for dieting for that matter. If you're fighting a battle against yourself, you're going to lose.

  • LifeInTheBikeLane
    LifeInTheBikeLane Posts: 345 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    OP, this is something you can do. Willpower is not easy to come by but it is possible. Up until the last year my willpower was 0. I suffered greatly from bulimia (binging and purging) and emotion issues and it took a toll on my work life and home life. I lost weight, sure. But I gained a whole lot of unhealthy habits that were doing more harm then good. I first admitted I had an issue. It was then months before I decided I wanted to do something about it. I talked to my doctor. I then panicked (emotional) and decided to try and do it on my own. I no longer binge the way I used to and am able to realize when it is happening and stop myself before it gets out of hand. I still do it, though. Ever so often it will happen...and then ever so often I lose my emotional footing and everything happens. I feel this would have been nipped already if I had stuck with the doctor.

    So yes, this is possible. You just may want to go see your doctor. They can actually give you the tools necessary to take on the issue and handle it appropriately. An unhealthy relationship with food is never a good thing. Take it down now before it progresses beyond where you are.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight

    You will never lose weight and keep it off until you overcome your ED.

    FYI-there is a binge eating support group on here you may want to check out. Lots of successes and people in progress. You'll notice all of the success stories have something in common-they had to give up the binge/restrict cycle.
  • marwyvi
    marwyvi Posts: 9 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    OP, this is something you can do. Willpower is not easy to come by but it is possible. Up until the last year my willpower was 0. I suffered greatly from bulimia (binging and purging) and emotion issues and it took a toll on my work life and home life. I lost weight, sure. But I gained a whole lot of unhealthy habits that were doing more harm then good. I first admitted I had an issue. It was then months before I decided I wanted to do something about it. I talked to my doctor. I then panicked (emotional) and decided to try and do it on my own. I no longer binge the way I used to and am able to realize when it is happening and stop myself before it gets out of hand. I still do it, though. Ever so often it will happen...and then ever so often I lose my emotional footing and everything happens. I feel this would have been nipped already if I had stuck with the doctor.

    So yes, this is possible. You just may want to go see your doctor. They can actually give you the tools necessary to take on the issue and handle it appropriately. An unhealthy relationship with food is never a good thing. Take it down now before it progresses beyond where you are.

    Thank you so much, i always prefer to hear from people who have been there
  • supahdupahfitness
    supahdupahfitness Posts: 73 Member
    Forget diets, they're flawed from the get go. You can't eat badly most of the time, then starve yourself to quickly skinny down when beach season rolls around. That's the basic concept of a diet, and it'll lead to a whole host of underlying problems and damage both physically and psychologically.

    What you need to do is use a three pronged attack for life: Diet, Exercise, Sleep. But the word diet, means what you eat, not that fad we just talked about. Lets save Exercise and Sleep for another question.

    When it comes to your diet, understand that it's life long and design it to give you the longest fullest life possible. This means cutting out processed junk and chemicals, understanding the benefits of organic, natural food and putting in a little work when it comes to looking for them in the supermarket. There's a whole host of foods out there you might not even know about! Offering healthy fats, better quality of life, better mental states, better sex, better emotional states and better physical condition. This, along with why you started, is what you should try to remember, when it comes to saying no to a sugar-glazed goodie, or simply saying enough is enough.

    One key thing to remember is that it actually takes time to ween off crappy food, there's stuff out there that's chemically designed to FEEL better in your mouth than a competing companies product and this crap is addictive. After weening off, you'll need to keep making the right choice for a little while, our brains, like any other muscle can be formed depending on how you train it. After a certain amount of time, and it varies from person to person and depending on the amount of effort you put in, you'll actually form a habit. It's up to you to make sure that it's a good one.

    I had an eating disorder. I don't anymore.

    Make the right choices, remember why, learn how to make it easier (spices and cooking lessons go a long way). And don't be afraid of it. It's ok to have a treat now and then, if you can't because you're afraid then it's already keeping you in the prison you think you're outrunning. You shouldn't have to run. Face it head on. You'll be alright. If you're smart enough to determine that an eating disorder exists, then that's half the battle won.
  • slaite1
    slaite1 Posts: 1,307 Member
    edited July 2015
    Forget diets, they're flawed from the get go. You can't eat badly most of the time, then starve yourself to quickly skinny down when beach season rolls around. That's the basic concept of a diet, and it'll lead to a whole host of underlying problems and damage both physically and psychologically.

    What you need to do is use a three pronged attack for life: Diet, Exercise, Sleep. But the word diet, means what you eat, not that fad we just talked about. Lets save Exercise and Sleep for another question.

    When it comes to your diet, understand that it's life long and design it to give you the longest fullest life possible. This means cutting out processed junk and chemicals, understanding the benefits of organic, natural food and putting in a little work when it comes to looking for them in the supermarket. There's a whole host of foods out there you might not even know about! Offering healthy fats, better quality of life, better mental states, better sex, better emotional states and better physical condition. This, along with why you started, is what you should try to remember, when it comes to saying no to a sugar-glazed goodie, or simply saying enough is enough.

    One key thing to remember is that it actually takes time to ween off crappy food, there's stuff out there that's chemically designed to FEEL better in your mouth than a competing companies product and this crap is addictive. After weening off, you'll need to keep making the right choice for a little while, our brains, like any other muscle can be formed depending on how you train it. After a certain amount of time, and it varies from person to person and depending on the amount of effort you put in, you'll actually form a habit. It's up to you to make sure that it's a good one.

    I had an eating disorder. I don't anymore.

    Make the right choices, remember why, learn how to make it easier (spices and cooking lessons go a long way). And don't be afraid of it. It's ok to have a treat now and then, if you can't because you're afraid then it's already keeping you in the prison you think you're outrunning. You shouldn't have to run. Face it head on. You'll be alright. If you're smart enough to determine that an eating disorder exists, then that's half the battle won.

    Please ignore this.
    ----from someone who has been there
  • Pearsquared
    Pearsquared Posts: 1,656 Member
    edited July 2015
    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    Pretty much all bingers are also dieters. Stop restricting.

    I HAVE TO lose weight

    You will never lose weight and keep it off until you overcome your ED.

    FYI-there is a binge eating support group on here you may want to check out. Lots of successes and people in progress. You'll notice all of the success stories have something in common-they had to give up the binge/restrict cycle.

    I'll second the binge eating support group. That's the best we can do on here - support you when you're struggling. I have struggled with binge eating ever since I moved away from home, and I was using it as a coping mechanism for loneliness and anxiety. I was also in a high-stress job that did not fit my personality, but took it out of desperation (it was 2011 and the economy was still terrible).

    I lost a lot of weight two years ago after starting a new job closer to my family, but fell back into heavy binge eating when I got put in another high stress situation (being a bridesmaid coupled with a promotion at my job that added too much responsibility at once). I ended up gaining 50 pounds in six months - that's a lot when you're 5'1'', and it took a huge toll on my health.

    I am extremely thankful to a coworker who related and recommended a therapist who I still go to today. It was extremely difficult, but with the help of psychotherapy, medication (I have an awesome and sympathetic GP), and exercise I've been able to repair my relationship with food and better cope with stressful situations without binge eating. I needed ALL THREE to get this far - changing my diet would have been useless at the time because I was only fixing the symptom, not the underlying cause. Now that I'm able to cope, losing weight again to get out of obesity is a possibility again.

    This took almost a year to do, so don't be hard on yourself if things don't go swimmingly all the time. It'll be so much easier if you go easy on yourself, and don't worry about losing weight until you get your binge eating under control. One step at a time.
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  • jensquish1
    jensquish1 Posts: 499 Member
    marwyvi wrote: »
    anybody here with a success story of overcoming ED ? Or still struggling? I do myselft, i'm on a diet and my friends tell me to encorporate "cheat day" i'm very afraid not to get into an emocional eating cycle, but i'm also craving everything around me :(
    I've struggled with ED in the past and still do. It's just not as controlling as it used to be. I don't have any advice, but just know you aren't alone. It's a *kitten* cycle.
  • majigurl
    majigurl Posts: 660 Member
    Binge eating sucks. I have Non-defined ED. I have the whole gama of ED's.. yay. But I have them controlled now.

    This is how:

    Get help. Seriously. Number 1. you need to find out why.
    Get support. Tell your family and friends that you trust about your ED. It makes you accountable.
    Don't ever miss meals or snacks! Count your calories and never let yourself get too hungry! YOU WILL BINGE. It sucks. But keep small 100 cal snacks on you and log them into MFP. If you get a little hungry eat it with a big glass of water.

    You can lose weight and not STARVE.

    If you need more advice or just want to chat, pm me.
  • ABabilonia
    ABabilonia Posts: 622 Member
    I've been struggling with BED for a very long time. At night I used to eat everything (chocolates, chips, candy, ice cream, etc.), and my logic was: Let me binge today, and I will start a strict regime tomorrow. Unfortunately tomorrow never came, and I gained 70 lbs in the process. I was about to find personal help, but I find the following book:

    http://www.amazon.com/Hunger-Fix-Three-Stage-Overeating-Addiction/dp/1623361583/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1437187150&sr=8-1&keywords=Food+addiction

    That book has been helping me a lot. I'm still not completely out of the woods, but I feel that little by little I'm getting stronger. Good luck.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    You need to seek help from a mental health professional who specializes in eating disorders.
  • dogcatac
    dogcatac Posts: 124 Member
    something i do is log my calories with the largest meal first. its way easier to stick to a goal that way. i do 5pm to 5pm
  • purpleposies
    purpleposies Posts: 90 Member
    slaite1 wrote: »
    marwyvi wrote: »
    triciab79 wrote: »
    Satisfying your cravings is the problem isn't it? Ultimately you have to change your relationship with food. Some people can treat food as a reward and be ok. Just like some people can drink and not need to get drunk. You cannot. Its not fair but it is your thorn just like some people are more prone to alcoholism or getting cancer. You have to play by the rules that keep you healthy not the rules that work for your friends. I have diabetes in my family. Most people who are as slim as me and work out as hard as I do can enjoy just about whatever carb they want, I cannot because I am pre diabetic and I don't want to be blind like my grandmother.


    Where there might be some truth, comparing ed to diabetes is not right, ED is 100% psychological problem which can be overcome with right treatment, i'm not planning on living with this forever and i know there are people with probably great willpower, who did Get over it

    It takes more than will power to overcome psychological problems. Just like you wouldn't tell someone with severe depression or bi-polar disorder that they can get over it if they just had enough willpower, you can't expect to treat an eating disorder with sheer willpower. You need to involve professionals who can assist you in figuring out the best way to manage it.

    +1

    I would venture to say overcoming many psychological problems are about 1% willpower and 99% technique.

    This. Lawd. If someone looked at me and told me I could overcome my bipolar and anxiety disorders with willpower I might be liable to punch them in the teeth.

    OP, seek professional help.
  • themonstermash
    themonstermash Posts: 71 Member
    Youre going to need professional help. Not what you want to hear but its just the damn truth. I'm bulimic and have been for nearly 8 years. Never wanted to accept i needed to see a professional. But i have unsuccesfully tried to beat this for the past 8 years. Its not willpower. I have willpower. What i do not have are the TOOLS that a professional who has spent years training specifically to help people like you and me. I'm entering a treatment program Monday which requires 6hr/day hospitalization. While that specific program may not be best for you, you definitely need to see someone who actually has the KNOWLEDGE on the TOOLS you will need to beat this. Best of luck.