Sugary Drinks CAN cause Diabetes ?!?
BennerLTF_RD
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A new study shows that sugary drinks (sweet tea, energy, soda) can increase your chance of developing Type 2 Diabetes by 18% per beverage per day. SOOOO for you soda drinkers out there this means 3 cokes a day could increase your risk by as much as 54%. That is a super scary # when you consider that Diabetes is the leading cause of amputations, blindness and kidney disease in the developed world.
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Interesting first post0
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Nope.0
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Link? If someone drinks 3 regular sodas a day, that is like 900 calories of soda. That is a good amount of calories to drink.
So it could be... increased calories --> increases chances of being obese --> increase chance of diabetes..0 -
I'd like to see the link too. Is this just a correlation? Because I could believe that.0
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oh reeeeallly?0
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I think this might be what she's referring to:
Friendly news article version: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/replacing-one-sugary-drink-per-day-could-cut-risk-of-type-2-diabetes
Down and dirty science version: http://www.diabetologia-journal.org/files/OConnor.pdf0 -
too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.0
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Link? If someone drinks 3 regular sodas a day, that is like 900 calories of soda. That is a good amount of calories to drink.
So it could be... increased calories --> increases chances of being obese --> increase chance of diabetes..
They "corrected" for overweight, apparently.
Three 330 ml cans of coca cola in the UK are 105g of sugar and 420 cals so "regular" might be a bit flexible
The vague epidemiology also concluded that it would be unwise to substitute fruit juice or artificially sweetened soda as these showed some tendency to increase diabetes risk too.0 -
Link? If someone drinks 3 regular sodas a day, that is like 900 calories of soda. That is a good amount of calories to drink.
So it could be... increased calories --> increases chances of being obese --> increase chance of diabetes..
They "corrected" for overweight, apparently.
Three 330 ml cans of coca cola in the UK are 105g of sugar and 420 cals so "regular" might be a bit flexible
The vague epidemiology also concluded that it would be unwise to substitute fruit juice or artificially sweetened soda as these showed some tendency to increase diabetes risk too.
If it's the same ones at @kgeyser posted, I will have to read those.
But when I think soda, I automatically think 20oz because it's common in the US.0 -
that's older work from the same study - it will interest Americans to see a median soda consumption of zero I'm sure ;-)
kgeyser has the right links for the current news story, it uses 336 grams as a "serving" of SSB which would be a European sized can0 -
helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.0 -
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helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.0 -
helenrosec1 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.
But how much is too much? Did your doctor say? I am curious about this because my dad has developed diabetes and before my donation surgery, they did so much testing to see if I was likely to develop diabetes when I get older. Thanks. Oh and my dad is not even close to being overweight...
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helenrosec1 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.
There are some links that sugary drinks cause diabetes, but I would ask, is it the sugary drinks or is it the obesity. The bigger issue, sugary drinks have a lot of calories and don't provide much nutrition and doesn't fill you up, making it very easy to increase caloric intake.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/0 -
ignore me - I'm not getting involved0
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"In the new study, the authors also found that if study participants had replaced a habitual daily 330ml serving of soft drinks with a serving of water or unsweetened tea or coffee, the risk of diabetes could have been cut by 14% - See more at: http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/replacing-one-sugary-drink-per-day-could-cut-risk-of-type-2-diabetes#sthash.szWBKLSR.dpuf "0
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Standard size cola in the UK would be a can which is 330ml, which has 35g of sugar and 139cal.
I think what is being pushed is that sugar in execess has links towards diabetes even for those who are not obese.
Just because you are not overweight does not prevent you from being unhealthy.0 -
I have no comment regarding the numbers tossed around, but too much of anything can cause problems. Too much sugar, too much salt, too much red meat, and etc. The difficulty is in determining how much is too much.0
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The amount of soda I drank was a direct correlation to type 2 diabetes. 2 Liters of soda a day along with other excessive sugar binges... I quit soda began working out and now its gone and my doctor says im healthy and my dentist sees an improvement in my teeth as well0
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Link? If someone drinks 3 regular sodas a day, that is like 900 calories of soda. That is a good amount of calories to drink.
So it could be... increased calories --> increases chances of being obese --> increase chance of diabetes..
They "corrected" for overweight, apparently.
Three 330 ml cans of coca cola in the UK are 105g of sugar and 420 cals so "regular" might be a bit flexible
The vague epidemiology also concluded that it would be unwise to substitute fruit juice or artificially sweetened soda as these showed some tendency to increase diabetes risk too.
I read that artificially sweetened soda had no effect, did I miss something in there?0 -
There are some links that sugary drinks cause diabetes, but I would ask, is it the sugary drinks or is it the obesity. The bigger issue, sugary drinks have a lot of calories and don't provide much nutrition and doesn't fill you up, making it very easy to increase caloric intake.
The authors are clear that its the sweetened drinks and not the obesity.
For example they found a trend for diabetes with consumption of artificially sweetened drinks but this went away when corrected for adiposity.
They agree with you on filling up etc "SSB may contribute to type 2 diabetes risk via both their effects on adiposity, where energy intake in liquid form is not fully compensated, promoting weight gain via the glycaemic
effect of consuming large amounts of rapidly absorbable sugars, and the metabolic effects of fructose."0 -
helenrosec1 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.
There are some links that sugary drinks cause diabetes, but I would ask, is it the sugary drinks or is it the obesity. The bigger issue, sugary drinks have a lot of calories and don't provide much nutrition and doesn't fill you up, making it very easy to increase caloric intake.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
Both can play a role. That fact sheet you linked to says this:
"Most overweight people never develop type 2 diabetes, and many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight. "
So if most overweight people never get it, and many people with it are not overweight, it clearly is not simply a matter of being overweight. There are other genetic and lifestyle factors at play. Your sheet also says this:
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes."
"The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should avoid intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes."
"These (sugar-sweetened beverages) will raise blood glucose"
So while it's clear this is not perfectly understood yet by scientists, there certainly does seem to be some legitimate indication that the sugary drinks increase risk beyond just the calorie/weight impact.0 -
MoiAussi93 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.
There are some links that sugary drinks cause diabetes, but I would ask, is it the sugary drinks or is it the obesity. The bigger issue, sugary drinks have a lot of calories and don't provide much nutrition and doesn't fill you up, making it very easy to increase caloric intake.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
Both can play a role. That fact sheet you linked to says this:
"Most overweight people never develop type 2 diabetes, and many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight. "
So if most overweight people never get it, and many people with it are not overweight, it clearly is not simply a matter of being overweight. There are other genetic and lifestyle factors at play. Your sheet also says this:
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes."
"The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should avoid intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes."
"These (sugar-sweetened beverages) will raise blood glucose"
So while it's clear this is not perfectly understood yet by scientists, there certainly does seem to be some legitimate indication that the sugary drinks increase risk beyond just the calorie/weight impact.
Eating anything with sugar will raise blood glucose. If sugar in drinks is causing diabetes then why are countries with higher sugar consumption than the US generating lower diabetes rates? Truly causal relationships hold up across arbitrary lines on a map.0 -
brianpperkins wrote: »MoiAussi93 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
My Doctor must have lied to me then, because I asked him about eating too much sugar, even in fruits and he told me too much can cause diabetes so try cut it down.
There are some links that sugary drinks cause diabetes, but I would ask, is it the sugary drinks or is it the obesity. The bigger issue, sugary drinks have a lot of calories and don't provide much nutrition and doesn't fill you up, making it very easy to increase caloric intake.
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/myths/
Both can play a role. That fact sheet you linked to says this:
"Most overweight people never develop type 2 diabetes, and many people with type 2 diabetes are at a normal weight or only moderately overweight. "
So if most overweight people never get it, and many people with it are not overweight, it clearly is not simply a matter of being overweight. There are other genetic and lifestyle factors at play. Your sheet also says this:
"Research has shown that drinking sugary drinks is linked to type 2 diabetes."
"The American Diabetes Association recommends that people should avoid intake of sugar-sweetened beverages to help prevent diabetes."
"These (sugar-sweetened beverages) will raise blood glucose"
So while it's clear this is not perfectly understood yet by scientists, there certainly does seem to be some legitimate indication that the sugary drinks increase risk beyond just the calorie/weight impact.
Eating anything with sugar will raise blood glucose. If sugar in drinks is causing diabetes then why are countries with higher sugar consumption than the US generating lower diabetes rates? Truly causal relationships hold up across arbitrary lines on a map.
Biology is complicated
Perhaps the drink itself has to do with how quickly the sugar can be taken in. I can drink a soda pretty fast, but I take longer on sugary food.
Just a hypothesis, no research on that thought0 -
helenrosec1 wrote: »too much of any sugar can increase your risk of diabetes.
Too much sugar doesn't increase your risk of diabetes. Too many calories causing overweight/obesity increases risk of diabetes.
There are plenty of "healthy" weight people who develop diabetes. It's not that simple.0 -
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