Backpacking - A hobby for all body types?

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  • whmscll
    whmscll Posts: 2,254 Member
    Also....PACK OUT YOUR TOILET PAPER. Do not try to burn it or bury it (people have started raging forest fires trying to burn their tp). Coming across wads of tp in an otherwise beautiful wilderness area is beyond gross. Camp at least 100 feet from any water source also.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    I would never have even thought about burning it. Seems like a risky move. lol. We were suggested ziplock bagging it. haha. Thanks for the advice though!
  • TheGaudyMagpie
    TheGaudyMagpie Posts: 282 Member
    I hike rather than backpack, but I have been using poles lately. I feel kind of weird using them, but they definitely make hills and uneven terrain a lot easier. They engage the upper body to help so you get a bit of an arm workout as well. The primary benefit for me is that my hands often swell up during a hike, and arm engagement keeps that from happening. I got mine from Amazon, and they were not expensive.

    5 miles/day is definitely doable for a beginner of average fitness. Rest when you need to, have a little snack when you need to, and have fun.
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    edited July 2015
    So my boyfriend and I are going backpacking in September for the first time. I'm still on my weight loss journey and I'm nervous the added weight of the backpack will be too much for me. Have any of you backpacked before while still being overweight? Any tips?

    I did once, a two day overnight trip. THe problem for me wasn't really the weight of the pack (it wasn't that heavy for two days). The issue was the hills. The first couple of miles of my hike were up a fairly steep incline. Even some of the thin people were struggling a bit.

    My advice, know what the terrain is going to be like and practice in similar conditions. If you properly prepare, you will enjoy yourself much more.
  • headwind2015
    headwind2015 Posts: 69 Member
    I would never have even thought about burning it. Seems like a risky move. lol. We were suggested ziplock bagging it. haha. Thanks for the advice though!

    Take baby wipes for TP. You will use less material and it easier to fold into squares as you're using it. Also baby wipes packs better clean and dirty into ziplock bags.
  • PAtinCO
    PAtinCO Posts: 129 Member
    edited July 2015
    Avid hiker and backpacker here. Lots of great advise here.

    Re: Shoes. My personal preference for both day hiking and backpacking is a running shoe. Trail runners are best but regular running shoes are fine too. Hiking boots weigh too much and wear you out faster, plus they trap moisture from sweat inside your shoes making them more likely to cause blisters. The main thing with light shoes is to keep your pack light too. On an overnight trip my pack is about 18lbs, add 2 for every day in additional food. I never exceed 30lbs.

    Lighter is better overall with backpacking. Of course, generally speaking, the lighter gear costs more and is more fragile so that's something to consider. Down bags and ultralight tents are pricey.

    Sometimes lightening your load is cheaper too though. I use Gatorade bottles for my water bottle. They weigh a couple ounces, cost 89 cents and come filled with Gatorade. A Nalgene bottle weighs a pound or more and cost $20. Expensive water filters weigh a pound or more and some cost almost $100. Aqua-Mira drops cost $10-15, weigh a few ounces and don't add any bad taste to the water (it's chlorine dioxide, which is what the water plants use to treat your tap water).

    There's tons of great info on http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/index.html . Might be worth checking out.
  • MoiAussi93
    MoiAussi93 Posts: 1,948 Member
    edited July 2015
    PAtinCO wrote: »
    Avid hiker and backpacker here. Lots of great advise here.

    Re: Shoes. My personal preference for both day hiking and backpacking is a running shoe. Trail runners are best but regular running shoes are fine too. Hiking boots weigh too much and wear you out faster, plus they trap moisture from sweat inside your shoes making them more likely to cause blisters. The main thing with light shoes is to keep your pack light too. On an overnight trip my pack is about 18lbs, add 2 for every day in additional food. I never exceed 30lbs.

    I am by no means an expert...as I said I've only done one two day hike. But I and another person wore running shoes (regular running shoes, not trail runners) because we didn't have any type of hiking books. The trail was very rocky and after a while we definitely felt the rocks through our running shoes. It became painful after several hours.

    Also, we had light rain through much of the afternoon. Yes, this trip was brutal in many ways for me. Years later, my friend and I still refer to it as our Bataan Death March. The friend who organized the trip is not as amused by this as we are. LOL! Anyway, the running shoes gave us no traction on the wet rocks and I slipped and took a rather nasty fall at one point. No broken bones, Just bad scrapes and bumps and enough blood on the rocks to look like a murder scene.

    After the fact, the others told us we shouldn't have worn running shoes.

    I'm sure they might have been fine if the trail was mostly dirt, but on rock they were terrible. Just my experience.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    Baby wipes are a really good idea! I'll def keep that in mind.
  • PAtinCO
    PAtinCO Posts: 129 Member
    MoiAussi93 wrote: »
    PAtinCO wrote: »
    Avid hiker and backpacker here. Lots of great advise here.

    Re: Shoes. My personal preference for both day hiking and backpacking is a running shoe. Trail runners are best but regular running shoes are fine too. Hiking boots weigh too much and wear you out faster, plus they trap moisture from sweat inside your shoes making them more likely to cause blisters. The main thing with light shoes is to keep your pack light too. On an overnight trip my pack is about 18lbs, add 2 for every day in additional food. I never exceed 30lbs.

    I am by no means an expert...as I said I've only done one two day hike. But I and another person wore running shoes (regular running shoes, not trail runners) because we didn't have any type of hiking books. The trail was very rocky and after a while we definitely felt the rocks through our running shoes. It became painful after several hours.

    Also, we had light rain through much of the afternoon. Yes, this trip was brutal in many ways for me. Years later, my friend and I still refer to it as our Bataan Death March. The friend who organized the trip is not as amused by this as we are. LOL! Anyway, the running shoes gave us no traction on the wet rocks and I slipped and took a rather nasty fall at one point. No broken bones, Just bad scrapes and bumps and enough blood on the rocks to look like a murder scene.

    After the fact, the others told us we shouldn't have worn running shoes.

    I'm sure they might have been fine if the trail was mostly dirt, but on rock they were terrible. Just my experience.

    I'm sure different people have different results with them. Having said that, I do hike on really rocky trails including some of our 14,000 foot peaks here in Colorado. Watching where you step is key on those trails, as is having steady ankles. I do generally use trail runners though as they have better soles for wet rock and loose gravel.

    As for wet feet, I've just learned not to mind them. I've found that wet feet are just a part of hiking. Whether you sweat from within or get wet from without, I almost always wind up with wet feet. With a running shoe and a merino wool sock, it'll usually dry out in about 20 minutes of walking, even after stepping up over my ankles (or knees) in a creek. Do that in a boot and it's still going to get wet, waterproof or not. It'll just take days to dry.

    In the end, use what makes you most comfortable. From what I see, most people start with sturdier boots and move to trail runners as they progress and gain experience and strength. There might be something to be said for that.

  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    Regular running shoes that are going to squish the foam and possibly throw you off balance is not good, plus all that movement can tire your ankles out.

    There's a reason you shouldn't wear running shoes when lifting - bad stability, and waste of energy absorbed by shoe, possible injury.

    I think those same issues apply out on the trail carrying a load.

    Now - if you can go ultra light 18 lbs - sure, no problem - but up around 30 lbs, not so good.

    But the trail runners and such designed for trail, have less padding, exactly for fact the ground is softer and by nature of trail running, you absorb more shock with your leg muscles, not bones - so they don't need as much.
    So they don't have the above problem.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    So Ive been reading up about conditioning training for backpacking. The things Ive been reading say a mix of strength training, hiking with weight (slowly adding more each hike til you get to your pack amount) and cardio like stair climbing or high incline treadmill would be perfect 6 weeks out. Anything else I should add into my routine to prepare?
  • headwind2015
    headwind2015 Posts: 69 Member
    sounds great! Honestly, I am sure you'd be fine even if you didn't prepare, but being prepared will definitely make it a more enjoyable.
  • rick_po
    rick_po Posts: 449 Member
    Take care of your feet! Wear the right socks. Blisters will ruin your hike and the week after.

    I've done a lot of hiking, including lots of off-trail, and some technical climbing. I got to the point where I'd spend 90% of my hikes in a running shoe. If I knew the trail had difficult terrain, I'd carry my heavier boots in my pack and only put them on when I needed them. That meant a pretty heavy pack, though. Ideally, you want to wear the lightest shoe that will work for your conditions.

    The other thing beginners do badly is weight balance in the pack. Plan on stopping after a mile or two to re-pack your pack. Your shoulders and back should not work hard when you're hiking. Most people pack the weight too far back. The heavy stuff needs to be right against your body.

    On an overnight backpack, chipmunks are your enemy. Keep your food secure.

    For preparation, I'd walk outside. Hills, the steeper the better. If it's easy, walk faster. Work on finding a pace you can keep up for a long period of time. Hiking when you're out of shape is fun; hiking when you're in good cardio-vascular shape is the greatest thing on Earth!
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    Thanks for all of the tips! Im started to get really excited! Chipmunks, huh? Do you hang your food or pack at night to avoid them getting into it?
  • rick_po
    rick_po Posts: 449 Member
    Hanging food is best, but if you're careful, you can get away with good air-tight containers. Be careful, though. Stuff like instant oatmeal packets, or mac-and-cheese cups, aren't all that air-tight. I've had chipmunks eat holes in my tent, backpack, and a nylon stuff sack to get a bag of trail mix that I forgot was in there.
  • CSARdiver
    CSARdiver Posts: 6,252 Member
    The trip we were planning to go on is an overnight 10 miler. So I'm assuming they'd be shooting for 5 a day? Is that too many you think? It says perfect for beginners on the website.

    Sounds like you've got the perfect plan - take it slowly and let your experience guide you.

    Talk with someone experienced with the trail if possible - where ever you go. 10 mi is a good beginner distance without elevation. Try to set your camp about 1/2 way and take plenty of breaks for snacks, drinks, and just enjoy the scenery. Check up alternative lacing techniques and bring some mole skin along with a small first aid pack. Test your gear at home and get used to every little feature of it before finding out something does not work as intended when you need it to. I've been on more than one climbing expedition watching someone get sent off the mountain because their crampons didn't fit their boots.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    I was reading a thru-hiking book over the weekend and the girl who wrote it said she'd leave her pack unzipped at night so mice could go in check it out and leave without chewing holes in her pack. LOL. I would have never thought about the little hungry ones being a pain.... only bears. haha.

    Since I dont have a pack yet how much mileage should I shoot for with regular hiking? I read somewhere if youre shooting for 5 with a pack do 8 miles without one as practice til you have all of your gear.
  • headwind2015
    headwind2015 Posts: 69 Member
    I wouldn't worry about mice.

    I recently upgraded my backpack of almost 12 years not because of wear and tear but because packs have come a long way. (I also carry less gear now and can get away with a smaller pack) if you're really concerned about durability look for a pack made from a high denier material. The higher the rating the more durable the fabric.

    I usually sleep with my pack in the tent with me. During the day I may move my pack to the tent's vestibule.

    It is also good practice not to sleep near your food prep area. Keep your campground clean at the end of the night and don't store food in your tent and you should be good.

    Your pack should last you a long time if you take care of it.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
    I was reading a thru-hiking book over the weekend and the girl who wrote it said she'd leave her pack unzipped at night so mice could go in check it out and leave without chewing holes in her pack. LOL. I would have never thought about the little hungry ones being a pain.... only bears. haha.

    Since I dont have a pack yet how much mileage should I shoot for with regular hiking? I read somewhere if youre shooting for 5 with a pack do 8 miles without one as practice til you have all of your gear.

    Walmart has, or had, these great roll-top nylon bags in camping section by Outdoor Products. Not water proof though same design, but pretty good. Really good for putting all the food into, 3 different sizes, which I use for 3 daily meal organization, can fit about 4 days in each, dinner being biggest bag. Something big enough for cookware too is good.

    Where you are going may actually have rules for what is required - you may have to get a bear canister - find out ahead if rentable and how big it is to hold your food. They may require bear bagging, which takes care of mice too. Except underfoot while trying to eat.

    Get a big carabiner type clip, and you can hang the whole mess of bags on a tree limb for the mouse problem if bear bagging not required.
    If you are hitting well established camping areas - they will be there, the little beggars.
    So sleep no where near where you eat. And confirm no food in pack or as you read, leave totally open so they can explore but not chew through, which means don't zip up pack in tent with you, leave outside.

    5-8 is great distance. Enough to know the legs can do it.
    Enough to know the shoes especially feel alright. Nothing worse than finding the soles squish too much (again problem using running shoes) and that causes achilles friction.
  • whmscll
    whmscll Posts: 2,254 Member
    edited July 2015
    Guess none of you hike in California. In many wilderness areas we are now required to carry approved bear-resistant canisters. They work to keep out all other critters as well, and you can stash them pretty much anywhere, no need to look for the perfect tree to hang your food. Huge downsides are 1) they weigh close to 3 pounds (empty!) and 2) they take up an enormous amount of room in your pack. I hate mine.

    Re: boots, there is a definite trend toward lighter weight, low-cut boots rather than heavy backpacking boots. Lots of people like trail runners, which are built with the structure and support you need (much better than running shoes). However, I rely on the good ankle support of hiking boots. It also helps to have high-top boots when crossing creeks, as well as a perfectly waterproof boot (especially when it rains). More important then the type of boot, though, is making sure whatever you choose fits properly. Boot issues while on the trail can ruin your trip (speaking from experience here!).

  • shank35l
    shank35l Posts: 102 Member
    kwtilbury wrote: »
    How much ground will you cover? You may want to go on some training hikes to build up to it. Put some weight in your pack and off you go. Apparently, it's the latest fitness trend - called "rucking".

    Never heard of "rucking" but I agree with this. Practice hiking with the weight to see if you can manage.

    Rucking is a military term originally. It comes from ruck sack.

    A few things about backpacking/rucking.

    1. Start out easy, then build
    2. Use boots once you start tacking on the weights. Failure to do so will result in you spraining or flat out snapping your ankles.
    3. Take care of your feet and your body in general while rucking. Stop for 5 minutes every 4 miles and hydrate, change socks as needed.
    4. want a good goal for rucking. The infantry has that goal. 12 miles in 3 hours with 65lbs weight. When that gets too easy go for the goal we had in the Ranger units. 12 miles, 125lbs, 3 hours.
    5. Mind you these are military combat arms minimums and by the time we've been rucking for a year or so we knock out these times in less than 3 hours.
    6. It works the whole body, hard - and your muscles will be screaming after mile 1.

  • headwind2015
    headwind2015 Posts: 69 Member
    edited July 2015
    shank35l wrote: »

    2. Use boots once you start tacking on the weights. Failure to do so will result in you spraining or flat out snapping your ankles.

    ABSOLUTELY FALSE! Seriously, think about or if that is too hard watch an episode of the biggest loser.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    I think I'm going to give the Solomon Speedcross 3's a go. They seem light weight, breathable and have good traction on the bottom.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    ironically, most of the backpacking I've done was when I was overweight...now that I'm lean and fit, I never go...mostly because kids...my wife and i intend to pick it up again once the kids are older and can play along though.

    the most important thing you could do is train and go on practice hikes. being skinny or fat is pretty irrelevant...if you're untrained, you're untrained...and if you're untrained, you will likely struggle.
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    Thanks for the advice! I started my backpack conditiong this week. Today is strength and cardio!
  • jenniferp04
    jenniferp04 Posts: 71 Member
    Also guys, feel free to add me on here! A few of you have and Id love to some some MFP friends who enjoy the same activities!
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