Women shouldn't have muscles......
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mitchelsimps wrote: »
I've been trying to look like Yaxeni Oriquen, but it's impossible without PEDs.
THANK YOU! coincidentally that's where it stops being attractive for me.
so to tie it back to the thread, my response to said hater would be 'well, I'm not doing drugs... so...'
I think the truth is that the publics mind is so screwed up they actually think that a body like that is not only possible without drugs, but that you might way up one day in the immediate future and discovered that you accidentally achieved that0 -
mitchelsimps wrote: »mitchelsimps wrote: »
I've been trying to look like Yaxeni Oriquen, but it's impossible without PEDs.
Oh sorry like i said it was personal preference there is nothing wrong with her
never say impossible never give up never back down! If you want to be like her then go for it
No, it really is impossible as a natural athlete to get as big as she is.
I think he proved my point0 -
JK Rowling handled a similar situation to this quite well: http://nypost.com/2015/07/12/j-k-rowling-perfectly-slams-serena-williams-body-shamer/0
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Don't worry about what stupid fuckboys think of your body. You will find Mr. Right who appreciates you for you and all of you, muscles included. And for the women, most of them are jealous and insecure that you are fit. You should be like "Haha do you really think I care what you think about my body?" 0
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@ DJ7203.....They've obviously never seen you in a bikini!!
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Everyone has different tastes for how much muscle they think is attractive on the opposite sex.
Also, men not liking muscly women has nothing to do with being insecure in their masculinity... why would u think that?
It's not the preference that's a sign of insecurity, I know plenty of men that prefer their girlfriends/wives etc a bit softer. That's cool. I have preferences too.
What's a sign of insecurity (I think) are the men who make it so well known, they're putting women down for having muscle. Shaming them, telling them that they look like men and that other men won't find them attractive. I say it's insecurity because I've seen it. The men who are confident in their masculinity (whether they be big, muscular or skinny with little muscle) accept it, and leave it for what it is.. a preference. The insecure ones, paranoid that they're not strong enough, or big enough to be deemed masculine. They're usually the arseholes. They're pissed off that a woman can get bigger or stronger than them "Men should be bigger...it's not right for women to have that much muscle" They shouldn't be anything, only what makes them happy.
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1HappyRedhead wrote: »@ DJ7203.....They've obviously never seen you in a bikini!!
LOL one of my friends saw me in a bikini the other day & she goes "Dee, you know you actually have trap muscles?!" I was like yeah & shrugged lol.
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Redheadllena wrote: »JK Rowling handled a similar situation to this quite well: http://nypost.com/2015/07/12/j-k-rowling-perfectly-slams-serena-williams-body-shamer/
I saw that! I loved her response!
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HeidiMightyRawr wrote: »Everyone has different tastes for how much muscle they think is attractive on the opposite sex.
Also, men not liking muscly women has nothing to do with being insecure in their masculinity... why would u think that?
It's not the preference that's a sign of insecurity, I know plenty of men that prefer their girlfriends/wives etc a bit softer. That's cool. I have preferences too.
What's a sign of insecurity (I think) are the men who make it so well known, they're putting women down for having muscle. Shaming them, telling them that they look like men and that other men won't find them attractive. I say it's insecurity because I've seen it. The men who are confident in their masculinity (whether they be big, muscular or skinny with little muscle) accept it, and leave it for what it is.. a preference. The insecure ones, paranoid that they're not strong enough, or big enough to be deemed masculine. They're usually the arseholes. They're pissed off that a woman can get bigger or stronger than them "Men should be bigger...it's not right for women to have that much muscle" They shouldn't be anything, only what makes them happy.
How many women get bigger (in terms of muscle) than men?0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »HeidiMightyRawr wrote: »Everyone has different tastes for how much muscle they think is attractive on the opposite sex.
Also, men not liking muscly women has nothing to do with being insecure in their masculinity... why would u think that?
It's not the preference that's a sign of insecurity, I know plenty of men that prefer their girlfriends/wives etc a bit softer. That's cool. I have preferences too.
What's a sign of insecurity (I think) are the men who make it so well known, they're putting women down for having muscle. Shaming them, telling them that they look like men and that other men won't find them attractive. I say it's insecurity because I've seen it. The men who are confident in their masculinity (whether they be big, muscular or skinny with little muscle) accept it, and leave it for what it is.. a preference. They're usually the arseholes. They're pissed off that a woman can get bigger or stronger than them "Men should be bigger...it's not right for women to have that much muscle" They shouldn't be anything, only what makes them happy.
How many women get bigger (in terms of muscle) than men?
" The insecure ones, paranoid that they're not strong enough, or big enough to be deemed masculine."
If we are talking about the men reffered to in the bolded comment above then any woman who works out could be bigger muscle wise than them. I don't entirely understand your question I guess?
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There's definitely a personal preference, but a woman can be very muscular but still be feminine... to me at least.0
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Women can do whatever they want, they aren't just there to be looked at.0
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branflakes1980 wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »HeidiMightyRawr wrote: »Everyone has different tastes for how much muscle they think is attractive on the opposite sex.
Also, men not liking muscly women has nothing to do with being insecure in their masculinity... why would u think that?
It's not the preference that's a sign of insecurity, I know plenty of men that prefer their girlfriends/wives etc a bit softer. That's cool. I have preferences too.
What's a sign of insecurity (I think) are the men who make it so well known, they're putting women down for having muscle. Shaming them, telling them that they look like men and that other men won't find them attractive. I say it's insecurity because I've seen it. The men who are confident in their masculinity (whether they be big, muscular or skinny with little muscle) accept it, and leave it for what it is.. a preference. They're usually the arseholes. They're pissed off that a woman can get bigger or stronger than them "Men should be bigger...it's not right for women to have that much muscle" They shouldn't be anything, only what makes them happy.
How many women get bigger (in terms of muscle) than men?
" The insecure ones, paranoid that they're not strong enough, or big enough to be deemed masculine."
If we are talking about the men reffered to in the bolded comment above then any woman who works out could be bigger muscle wise than them. I don't entirely understand your question I guess?
I'm talking in general. Even a man that may not be thought of as "muscular" is usually still bigger than a woman that would be thought of as muscular, if we are talking lean and not fat. Lean women who work out rarely get big. I imagine it would be a very small percentage of lean muscular women that actually get bigger than even a thin man/0 -
There's definitely a personal preference, but a woman can be very muscular but still be feminine... to me at least.
And a woman who lifts, after any given workout, is way more jacked than if you see the same woman on the street the next day... I once posted a picture on instagram of myself mid workout and got a *kitten* ton of negative comments (mainly from girls) saying stupid things like "why do you want to be that big" or "you're starting to look like a man" to which my response was me posting a picture of myself in a dress, and heels looking thin, toned and very feminine, I tagged them all in it asking "is this better, and less manly" to which they all responded "yes" and"that is what a woman's arms should look like" and "women are supposed to be feminine like this" to which I responded "These pictures were both taken on the same day within hours of eachother, don't be ignorant, and if you don't have anything worthwhile to say, keep your opinions to yourself"
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branflakes1980 wrote: »There's definitely a personal preference, but a woman can be very muscular but still be feminine... to me at least.
And a woman who lifts, after any given workout, is way more jacked than if you see the same woman on the street the next day... I once posted a picture on instagram of myself mid workout and got a *kitten* ton of negative comments (mainly from girls) saying stupid things like "why do you want to be that big" or "you're starting to look like a man" to which my response was me posting a picture of myself in a dress, and heels looking thin, toned and very feminine, I tagged them all in it asking "is this better, and less manly" to which they all responded "yes" and"that is what a woman's arms should look like" and "women are supposed to be feminine like this" to which I responded "These pictures were both taken on the same day within hours of eachother, don't be ignorant, and if you don't have anything worthwhile to say, keep your opinions to yourself"
Yep a thousand percent. Same goes for men, except most men of course are trying to take pictures during their workout since they appear to be more jacked lol.
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Be who you want to be; you will always be able to find friends, lovers, or whatever else you want. We live in a big world, and it just gets bigger every day.0
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No_Finish_Line wrote: »mitchelsimps wrote: »
I've been trying to look like Yaxeni Oriquen, but it's impossible without PEDs.
THANK YOU! coincidentally that's where it stops being attractive for me.
so to tie it back to the thread, my response to said hater would be 'well, I'm not doing drugs... so...'
I think the truth is that the publics mind is so screwed up they actually think that a body like that is not only possible without drugs, but that you might way up one day in the immediate future and discovered that you accidentally achieved that
I think you nailed it. People don't realize what natural potential is. Sadly, even bikini and figure classes which should look "natural" are using similar stuff to the big guys.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Docbanana2002 wrote: »I can't relate to your specific problem, since I'm not quite at the point in my fitness where people are seeing me as too muscular! But I can relate to the more general problem of having people critique you for achieving in ways that are supposedly un-feminine. In my case, I have a Ph.D. in a science-oriented field. I've had a lot "Oh you'd have more dates if you would just act a little more dumb and helpless" commentary in my life and truth be told... they are right. A lot of men find brainy women un-sexy. A lot of men find physically strong women like you un-sexy. But the thing is, are these really the type of guys that we want to attract?? I don't.
People who take this approach to life are a little sad to me, always contorting themselves into whatever they think the opposite sex is going to like, in the end winning someone who is attracted to a fake version of who they really are.
My approach is to be the best version of ME, and if that means that I don't win the majority vote in a hotness competition, so be it. When it comes to dating, I'm okay with being in a "niche market". I'm only looking for ONE guy who is compatible with someone like me, not the general population of males. If that one guy doesn't come along, so be it. I'm living the way I want to be living.
You've been told you'd attract more men by acting dumb and helpless?? Where do you live?
Southeastern U.S. Guess I'm not "southern belle" enough.
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In for buff athletic girls.0
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How many women get bigger (in terms of muscle) than men?
Quite a few if the woman's training hard for that purpose and the man doesn't have much. It's just not as common for women to have that goal in the first place (for some because of the attitudes stated in this thread)
I've seen a lot of young guys who are skinny with not much muscle at all, either just starting out or quite strong but still small (lighter weight categories) with amounts of muscle that are definitely attainable for a woman with that goal.
You can't compare average training woman with average training man, but it's not like all men are bigger than all women, there's some overlap.
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