2 weeks wheat free!

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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    Not necessarily. There is silent celiac in which the patient notices no symptoms. My celiac symptoms were annoying (stomach aches after eating, bloating, headaches and eventually arthritis) but they weren't extreme. If they had been I would have been diagnosed as a child and not in middle age.
  • cwilso37
    cwilso37 Posts: 79 Member
    It is amazing how strong a nocebo effect can be.
  • Blueseraphchaos
    Blueseraphchaos Posts: 843 Member
    My husband noticed he was vomiting after every meal that included gluten. He quit eating it and stopped. He can eat tiny amounts and be all right but otherwise, no.

    We haven't bothered with celiac testing because what we've done works...if it works, do it. Good thing i guess that i naturally dislike bread and all that.

    Oatmeal is gluten-free, though, as long as you find one made in a factory that doesn't also make other stuff. So if you aren't celiac, you can probably handle gluten. But get tested if you think you are and you think you can't avoid gluten for the rest of your life.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    cwilso37 wrote: »
    It is amazing how strong a nocebo effect can be.

    Well said.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    Tiff1124 wrote: »
    I haven't started yet, just wanted a bit of feedback first. In "they" I was referring to the people that I've talked to that have done either the wheat belly diet, or one of those other fads. I have no interest in that, just want to see if it's worth it to try limiting or cutting out breads, pasta, etc to see if it makes me feel better.

    Good answer! Wheat Belly is a fad, as is going gluten-free unless you have an actual allergy.

    If your problem is just feeling "icky", you almost certainly aren't celiac.

    Wheat Belly and fads like it promote the idea that gluten makes you feel bloated, when it really doesn't. Overeating makes you feel bloated.

    Are you weighing and logging all your food/drink on MFP? You might find that a calorie-controlled diet makes you feel better. You can also try exercising, for that extra boost of happy hormones.

    Good luck!
    rabbitjb wrote: »
    Tiff1124 wrote: »
    Hi everyone!

    I am sure this topic has been beaten to death, so I'll try to explain as best I can. I want to try going wheat free for at least 2 weeks, just to see what changes I feel in my body. Internally. I have had stomach issues for as long as I can remember. Bloaty, crampy, nauseous, and just really icky feeling, especially in the morning or after I eat bread, pasta, etc.

    I haven't been tested or anything, and this definitely isn't a get thin quick plan, I just really want to know if it is the carbs/wheat that is making my stomach act up. I've tried probiotic meds and that just made me feel worse.

    Has anyone done this for a short amount of time and seen results? I know that this will not be a life style change, because I know there is no way I can not eat bread or pasta or oatmeal and all of the things they say you shouldn't eat.

    I appreciate any and all feedback. Thanks!

    If you consider you have a food intolerance you should follow a proper elimination programme...this is not how you do it

    You go back to very basics then gradually reintroduce foods https://www.allergyuk.org/food-intolerance/identifying-your-food-intolerances

    Both of these.....so true.
  • SLLRunner
    SLLRunner Posts: 12,942 Member
    Tiff1124 wrote: »
    Thank you all for the awesome feedback! I am eating wheat, and after reading a lot of these posts I highly doubt I am allergic. I've narrowed it down to one of two things.

    I eat A LOT of carbs and a lot of wheat. Pretty much all of my meals contains carbs, so I'm either eating too much of it and that is what is making me feel ill.

    I am going to try doing only one serving of carbs (aside from veggies and fruit) for only in the morning for breakfast, which is when I feel the worst. No breads, just oatmeal to start. If I can at least narrow down by one meal at a time, I should be good to go. Thanks again all!

    There is nothing wrong with carbs either. I seems to me just carbs in general would not make you feel ill unless you had an underlying medical condition.

    Could there be other causes as to why you are not feeling well? Are you overeating during your meals? Another food intolerance maybe?

    I'm intolerant to both lactose and soy (I found out I was lactose intolerant years ago, then substituted soy and built an intolerance to soy). I always felt pretty bloated and sick after eating.
  • Treasureslide
    Treasureslide Posts: 42 Member
    Orphia wrote: »
    Generally I would trust that organic growers are not using synthetic insecticides and sustainable growing practices and do not use GMO seed.

    Nothing wrong with GMOs.

    Organic insecticides are just as toxic as non-organic.

    You seem to be caught up in one of those fads the OP was talking about.

  • Treasureslide
    Treasureslide Posts: 42 Member
    Caught up in a fad? GMO IS A FAD!!!!! that will have permanent uncertain changes in our enviroment, I live In a framing community, just this winter many folks swapped for GMO stick feed seeds for the winter , now many houndreds of cattle in my are are dying on this new " pesticide resistant high yield seed" the framers are regretful and have vowed not to change seed again... You are really kidding your self if you think GMO in foods is ok...
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    Caught up in a fad? GMO IS A FAD!!!!! that will have permanent uncertain changes in our enviroment, I live In a framing community, just this winter many folks swapped for GMO stick feed seeds for the winter , now many houndreds of cattle in my are are dying on this new " pesticide resistant high yield seed" the framers are regretful and have vowed not to change seed again... You are really kidding your self if you think GMO in foods is ok...

    Got evidence?
  • cwilso37
    cwilso37 Posts: 79 Member
    Caught up in a fad? GMO IS A FAD!!!!! that will have permanent uncertain changes in our enviroment, I live In a framing community, just this winter many folks swapped for GMO stick feed seeds for the winter , now many houndreds of cattle in my are are dying on this new " pesticide resistant high yield seed" the framers are regretful and have vowed not to change seed again... You are really kidding your self if you think GMO in foods is ok...

    Then you are so..... LUCKY!!!!! The payday that is coming from that evidence, not to mention the book tours and speaking... so lucky.
  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    thorsmom01 wrote: »
    My husband got diagnosed with celiac by a stomach biopsy when he was 18 months old in 1978- two of our kids tested postitive when they were 2 and 1 (now 7 and 4) It upsets me when people say that they are "gluten free" or self diagnosed- since I would give anything for them to be "normal" and included in things such as school hot lunch days and BBQs.

    Exactly. My friend @PeachyCarol is celiac and I bet she feels more then just "icky" when exposed to her allergen.

    Trust me, you wouldn't want to be around me when I'm exposed to gluten. It's not safe.

    It's fine to have concerns raised by self-diagnosis ... if you follow them up by going to a doctor. That's how my celiac was diagnosed. I actually suspected I had it and pursued a medical diagnosis and had it confirmed with a biopsy 18 years ago.

    The funny thing is that it was suspected by a previous doctor that I had it, but he never tested for it because I didn't have all the symptoms yet (I didn't have joint pain).

    I'm of two minds about people who self-diagnose. Part of me feels a big heap of ... whatever. You don't want to eat wheat, don't eat wheat. But wheat's not the only grain with gluten, mind. Whatever floats your boat. The popularity of going gluten free as a trend makes it easier to get gluten free products, even though some unscrupulous people don't take avoiding gluten contamination in food processing seriously enough and there have been incidents where people with celiac disease have experienced "glutening" from supposedly gluten-free items obtained from such people.

    And that's where the other part of my reaction to self-diagnosis comes in. The prevalance of self-diagnosis has lead to a healthy dose of skepticism in some circles of the general public in reaction to people asking to have their request for gluten-free products met. This crosses the line and conflicts with the needs of people with diagnosed celiac disease and true wheat allergies and is problematic.

  • PeachyCarol
    PeachyCarol Posts: 8,029 Member
    My husband noticed he was vomiting after every meal that included gluten. He quit eating it and stopped. He can eat tiny amounts and be all right but otherwise, no.

    We haven't bothered with celiac testing because what we've done works...if it works, do it. Good thing i guess that i naturally dislike bread and all that.

    Oatmeal is gluten-free, though, as long as you find one made in a factory that doesn't also make other stuff. So if you aren't celiac, you can probably handle gluten. But get tested if you think you are and you think you can't avoid gluten for the rest of your life.

    It's not just the factory you need to worry about with oats. You need to find oats grown on dedicated fields. Oats are grown as rotation crops with gluten-containing grains, typically. There can be volunteers from prior year's harvest in with oat harvests.

  • actualbears
    actualbears Posts: 23 Member
    Sorry if it's been mentioned already, but my sister gets sick when she eats any kind of wheat, and milk too. At first we thought she was intolerant of lactose/gluten, but after some digging we found out both of those have traces of penicillin in them, which my sister is VERY allergic to. Avoiding those foods hasn't necessarily made her lose weight, but it has definitely given her more energy and she doesn't feel so sick!
  • Blueseraphchaos
    Blueseraphchaos Posts: 843 Member
    My husband noticed he was vomiting after every meal that included gluten. He quit eating it and stopped. He can eat tiny amounts and be all right but otherwise, no.

    We haven't bothered with celiac testing because what we've done works...if it works, do it. Good thing i guess that i naturally dislike bread and all that.

    Oatmeal is gluten-free, though, as long as you find one made in a factory that doesn't also make other stuff. So if you aren't celiac, you can probably handle gluten. But get tested if you think you are and you think you can't avoid gluten for the rest of your life.

    It's not just the factory you need to worry about with oats. You need to find oats grown on dedicated fields. Oats are grown as rotation crops with gluten-containing grains, typically. There can be volunteers from prior year's harvest in with oat harvests.

    That is good to know. Thanks for that info. My husband hasn't bothered getting tested for celiac because, like i said, what we've done has made him feel better, but also because of the mass amount of drs visits in the last year because of his diagnosis of a deadly heart condition and subsequent surgery to implant a defibrillator. I think the idea of seeing a doctor and getting a firm diagnosis of yet another terrible disease terrifies him, at this point. So we've done our best to avoid gluten because i know celiac is actually an autoimmune disease that has effects that can't be seen right away...never realized that oats could be contaminated right from the start....

    And who knows, he may not have it all, but better safe than sorry. We try not to tell anyone that he is gluten-free just because of the perception that gets associated with it. I feel bad for people who truly need to be gluten-free that then get told "it's just a fad, it doesn't matter anyway"
  • Jiveli85
    Jiveli85 Posts: 37 Member
    I am completely sure that going wheat free cured my endometriosis.
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