"Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels."-Kate Moss
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Even if we substitute skinny for another word (e.g. "fit"), it still implies a false dichotomy. One can be fit and still eat awesome food.0
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Absolutely not true.
As much as everyone on this site likes to suggest "moderation" when it comes to calorie-dense foods (pizza, ice cream, whatever), that just isn't possible for me. If I have some, I want even more. I'm single and live alone. When I get a pizza, I eat the whole pizza. I don't keep leftovers and I don't eat it in moderation. Yes, it tastes good, but it is only satisfying if I eat a lot of it. Depending on the size and kind of the pizza, it probably lasts about 10-20 min. once I get started. Being skinny does not and cannot replace the joy of eating pizza.
However, the other things associated with being fit are just enough to be motivating... if I combine the benefit of all those things AND eating lower calories actually works (which it doesn't always, a topic for a different thread and most MFP users have never had the challenges I have had with weight loss, so if you think it is frustrating for you, then just try to be me for a month). That is... looking better / being attractive (assuming that leads to actually finding a LTR), being able to spend more time outdoors and get into rock climbing and such, and living longer than I would otherwise. If not eating pizza and such works, then those things are enough to motivate me to give up that pleasure. But just being thin for the sake of being thin... if it is just for appearance and nothing else? Not better than eating delicious foods.0 -
I love food. Was able to eat anything I wanted and not gain a pound until I quit smoking over 11 years ago. I finally got mad because I couldn't bend over to tie my shoe, was winded walking up ONE flight of stairs, and couldn't stand the sight of me in a mirror. There are lots of good foods that can be done in moderation, and lots of exercises that can be done to burn off the calories. I don't like the word "skinny" or "thin". I like the word "slender" and will tape to my bathroom mirror "Nothing tastes as good as being slender.". Because it's too easy to give up and binge.0
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as someone who was once fat, I can say, nope, there are lots of foods that taste better than feeling skinny. Whenever I see/hear this quote, mentally I just say "nope".0
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I hate this phrase. I'm sorry, but sometimes cake and hot wings taste so much better than fitting into my size 6's. I like being on the lower end of the BMI for my height, but sometimes I could give a crap about how much clothes fit, I want a basket full of hot wing, fries and a couple beers.0
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Commercially we have 'skinny latte' and 'skinny jeans' and a lot of money has been made by companies using 'skinny' so generally the public don't think skinny is bad0
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lynn_glenmont wrote: »My opinion is that Kate Moss shouldn't be getting credit for it, as the expression is older than she is (at least in its original, more grammatical form, "Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels."). And when I first heard it 40 years or more ago, it was clearly intended as motivation for people who were overweight, not as some kind of pro-ana justification, which apparently is the objection now? In those days underweight women picking at salads with no protein and no dressing would say, "You can never be too thin or too rich." That always sounded pro-ana (and greedy) to me, although no one was using the term pro-ana in those days.
Kate Moss doesnt claim to be the originator, she said it at a particular time in 2009 as one of her mottos and the media seizd on it. Part of the reason it became infamous was because it was Kate Moss and she was/is icnonic, the media love this sort of thing and the backlash from the ED lobby all whipped it up into an even bigger controversy. Kate is a brand and in one sense she is very smart at knowing how to market that brand.0 -
People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.0 -
I'd rather have Kate Moss's quote then the ridiculousness coming out of the FA movement...0
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It used to be a slogan of weight watchers years ago - long before kate moss said it.
Back then it was: 'Nothings tastes as good as being slim feels'. Then around 2007 Steven Tyler used the phrase: 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels'.
Its and old saying and maybe one that losses a bit in it's literal translation.
I suppose for many it should be: 'Nothing tastes as good as being healthy feels'0 -
I think the quote is fine. I love fried chicken, but I don't love it enough to eat a huge quantity of it (and gain weight).0
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MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Yeah, totally. We are making the choice every day. We are NOT eating all the foods, we are absolutely saying no to some of them, or parts of the portions of them.
If it really was a food vs slim issue and you chose the food (for those who think that), how about this scenario? A fairy says she can wave her wand and you can have what you want instantly. You can either have a) a giant plate of donuts (or your delicious food of choice) or b) you can instantly be your goal weight.
Are you folks saying you would choose the doughnuts? Really??
Every day we make that choice and we are our own genie. The difference is that the change happens over months and years instead of instantly, when we choose our health over the food.0 -
Well ok, if it's down to helpful slogans/mantras, the one that works for me sometimes is "a moment on the lips is a lifetime on the hips". Which I actually haven't heard anyone who's not a TV/movie character say out loud.0
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MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Funny that you avoided using the term she used (skinny) though.0 -
suziecue20 wrote: »Commercially we have 'skinny latte' and 'skinny jeans' and a lot of money has been made by companies using 'skinny' so generally the public don't think skinny is bad
I don't get the correlation.
Skinny latte is just easier to roll off the tongue than skimmed milk latte.
Skinny jeans are so called because they are tight fitting - nothing to do with size.
I don't associate either of these things with being skinny.0 -
Well ok, if it's down to helpful slogans/mantras, the one that works for me sometimes is "a moment on the lips is a lifetime on the hips". Which I actually haven't heard anyone who's not a TV/movie character say out loud.
Now this is a daft one. A lifetime on the hips? I remember hearing that one and thinking "first off, I store my weight on my belly not my hips and second off, an hour at the gym will take that bite off, I certainly am not stuck with it for a lifetime.. how defeatist"
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Beyond the fact that I dislike the word "skinny" (it must makes me think of a bag of bones with no muscle and little BF...a very unhealthy look), the quote itself insinuates that being skinny is the ultimate and that one should not take any pleasure in food...and probably should really be going hungry...at least that's my interpretation.
The fact is that you can get healthy and fit and lean and still eat well and healthfully and still enjoy food, etc...IMO, this quote basically illustrates to me, a *kitten* relationship with food...which isn't healthy...and I'm all about healthy.0 -
tennisdude2004 wrote: »It used to be a slogan of weight watchers years ago - long before kate moss said it.
Back then it was: 'Nothings tastes as good as being slim feels'. Then around 2007 Steven Tyler used the phrase: 'Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels'.
Its and old saying and maybe one that losses a bit in it's literal translation.
I suppose for many it should be: 'Nothing tastes as good as being healthy feels'
I can get behind your refined statement. That says to me that excessive food is not worth the unhealthy effects. When Kate Moss says it, I don't get that read. Not sure I completely buy it from Weight Watchers either, but it's more believable that they are interested in health vs. Kate Moss.0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Funny that you avoided using the term she used (skinny) though.
I only avoided it due to what I posted on the first page in my first response to this thread. People hear 'skinny' and think skin and bones. I hear 'skinny' and think fit, muscled, fairly flat stomach.0 -
MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
actually, I eat to train...and that often requires a great deal of food.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
actually, I eat to train...and that often requires a great deal of food.
What's your point. I said you can eat anything you want if it fits in your calories. And most people here are trying to lose weight so they HAVE to eat below their TDEE to do so and considering they got over weight by eating more than their TDEE then they have to chose to not do that.0 -
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Beyond the fact that I dislike the word "skinny" (it must makes me think of a bag of bones with no muscle and little BF...a very unhealthy look), the quote itself insinuates that being skinny is the ultimate and that one should not take any pleasure in food...and probably should really be going hungry...at least that's my interpretation.
The fact is that you can get healthy and fit and lean and still eat well and healthfully and still enjoy food, etc...IMO, this quote basically illustrates to me, a *kitten* relationship with food...which isn't healthy...and I'm all about healthy.
I don't take it that way. I take as inspiration for all the many people who post here saying things like, "I ate all my calories, but it's nighttime and I want the donut!"
Like, what do you want more: Thin or Donut?
The donut won't taste as good as being thin will feel.
I think when people add stuff in, like "OMG, if you like the quote, that makes you anorexic and means you cannot enjoy food!" then it would make sense to dislike it. It just comes down to how you take it, I guess.
I like the quote, am not anorexic and still like the taste of my food.0 -
MysticRealm wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Funny that you avoided using the term she used (skinny) though.
I only avoided it due to what I posted on the first page in my first response to this thread. People hear 'skinny' and think skin and bones. I hear 'skinny' and think fit, muscled, fairly flat stomach.
Skin and bones is closer to the actual definition of the word.0 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »I hate this quote, it smacks of ED thinspiration to me.
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Did this quote cause controversy in the USA in 2009 when the interview was given. Most people are missing out that the impact was because it was kate Moss saying it at a particular time and the backlash/ media frenzy it caused. Plenty of other people could have said soemthing similar, but in the UK this hit the headlines on slow news day.0
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I think that it was the fact that at 5'7"and under 100lbs, Kate Moss was the poster child for too thin at the time she said this. She was an unrealistic, unobtainable, unhealthy role model for millions of teens and young adults.
Anyone with half a brain who was not anorexic could clearly and readily see that. That's why the quote was controversial0 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Funny that you avoided using the term she used (skinny) though.
I only avoided it due to what I posted on the first page in my first response to this thread. People hear 'skinny' and think skin and bones. I hear 'skinny' and think fit, muscled, fairly flat stomach.
Skin and bones is closer to the actual definition of the word.
We use a lot of words differently than their full meaning would lend itself to. Have you seen what the word 'literally' has become. It actually has changed it's definition in the dictionary because people were using it in a way that it was not intended to be used so much.0 -
MysticRealm wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »MysticRealm wrote: »People keep saying 'food DOES taste better than skinny feels' or 'I can't imagine living life not eating all the good yummy things' but that to me is not at all what the quote is saying.
I don't think of the quote as saying don't eat anything yummy or don't enjoy food. To me it just says that if what you're eating isn't going to help you to get/remain fit/slim/thin/healthy, then it isn't worth it. So yes, you can have your pie and eat it to, but you can't eat the whole dang pie, unless you're fitting it into your calories.
If people on this site truly thought food does taste better than being fit/slim/thin/healthy then no one on here would be losing weight. People ARE choosing fit/slim/thin/healthy over food.
Funny that you avoided using the term she used (skinny) though.
I only avoided it due to what I posted on the first page in my first response to this thread. People hear 'skinny' and think skin and bones. I hear 'skinny' and think fit, muscled, fairly flat stomach.
Skinny, thin, slim, fit, etc... all mean the same thing to me. If someone tells me I'm skinny, I take it as a compliment.0
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