Which works best counting carbs or counting calories

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  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    saucykia wrote: »
    Science is beginning to realise that calories in, calories out isn't a valid approach to losing or maintaining weight, and that "a calorie is a calorie" is a falsehood. Our bodies can tell the difference between different types of foods even when the calorie counts are identical. A lot of research - I recommend Dr Robert Lustig, a professor of paediatric endrocronology - has pointed to the low fat, high sugar diet as the primary if not sole cause of the obesity epidemic in the West, and numerous studies have shown people eating the same calories losing different amounts of weight.

    If you want an accurate picture of what caused you to put the pounds on, eat normally for a few weeks but log it accurately. After a few weeks, you'll be able to see what kind of diet you're eating and to notice where changes need to be made. For instance, you might see you're eating far too many calories, though the likelihood is you'll be eating more carbs, sugar and salt from processed food. Current science is advocating for a return to a more moderate fat diet (35-40%) with higher protein (20-25%) and fewer carbohydrates, and it really does leave you feeling full, sometimes to the point where you can't consume all the calories you're meant to.

    I'm trying to maintain my weight, and was recommended to eat 1,600-1,800 calories/day by both my doctor and this website's calculator. Most days, I'm hard pressed to eat that much, but if I eat a lot of sugary or carb-rich foods, I can very easily go over and still feel hungry. I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    so i eat a lot of legumes, lentils, quinoa, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, veg, and fruit...am I gonna die?

  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    saucykia wrote: »
    Science is beginning to realise that calories in, calories out isn't a valid approach to losing or maintaining weight, and that "a calorie is a calorie" is a falsehood. Our bodies can tell the difference between different types of foods even when the calorie counts are identical. A lot of research - I recommend Dr Robert Lustig, a professor of paediatric endrocronology - has pointed to the low fat, high sugar diet as the primary if not sole cause of the obesity epidemic in the West, and numerous studies have shown people eating the same calories losing different amounts of weight.

    If you want an accurate picture of what caused you to put the pounds on, eat normally for a few weeks but log it accurately. After a few weeks, you'll be able to see what kind of diet you're eating and to notice where changes need to be made. For instance, you might see you're eating far too many calories, though the likelihood is you'll be eating more carbs, sugar and salt from processed food. Current science is advocating for a return to a more moderate fat diet (35-40%) with higher protein (20-25%) and fewer carbohydrates, and it really does leave you feeling full, sometimes to the point where you can't consume all the calories you're meant to.

    I'm trying to maintain my weight, and was recommended to eat 1,600-1,800 calories/day by both my doctor and this website's calculator. Most days, I'm hard pressed to eat that much, but if I eat a lot of sugary or carb-rich foods, I can very easily go over and still feel hungry. I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    so i eat a lot of legumes, lentils, quinoa, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, veg, and fruit...am I gonna die?

    But Dr Lutsig? LOL
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
    saucykia wrote: »
    I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    No you would not. Stop it. That's a completely ridiculous statement.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    saucykia wrote: »
    Science is beginning to realise that calories in, calories out isn't a valid approach to losing or maintaining weight, and that "a calorie is a calorie" is a falsehood. Our bodies can tell the difference between different types of foods even when the calorie counts are identical. A lot of research - I recommend Dr Robert Lustig, a professor of paediatric endrocronology - has pointed to the low fat, high sugar diet as the primary if not sole cause of the obesity epidemic in the West, and numerous studies have shown people eating the same calories losing different amounts of weight.

    If you want an accurate picture of what caused you to put the pounds on, eat normally for a few weeks but log it accurately. After a few weeks, you'll be able to see what kind of diet you're eating and to notice where changes need to be made. For instance, you might see you're eating far too many calories, though the likelihood is you'll be eating more carbs, sugar and salt from processed food. Current science is advocating for a return to a more moderate fat diet (35-40%) with higher protein (20-25%) and fewer carbohydrates, and it really does leave you feeling full, sometimes to the point where you can't consume all the calories you're meant to.

    I'm trying to maintain my weight, and was recommended to eat 1,600-1,800 calories/day by both my doctor and this website's calculator. Most days, I'm hard pressed to eat that much, but if I eat a lot of sugary or carb-rich foods, I can very easily go over and still feel hungry. I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    so i eat a lot of legumes, lentils, quinoa, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, veg, and fruit...am I gonna die?

    I hate to break it to you, but yes. At some point, you will certainly be dead.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    saucykia wrote: »
    Science is beginning to realise that calories in, calories out isn't a valid approach to losing or maintaining weight, and that "a calorie is a calorie" is a falsehood. Our bodies can tell the difference between different types of foods even when the calorie counts are identical. A lot of research - I recommend Dr Robert Lustig, a professor of paediatric endrocronology - has pointed to the low fat, high sugar diet as the primary if not sole cause of the obesity epidemic in the West, and numerous studies have shown people eating the same calories losing different amounts of weight.

    If you want an accurate picture of what caused you to put the pounds on, eat normally for a few weeks but log it accurately. After a few weeks, you'll be able to see what kind of diet you're eating and to notice where changes need to be made. For instance, you might see you're eating far too many calories, though the likelihood is you'll be eating more carbs, sugar and salt from processed food. Current science is advocating for a return to a more moderate fat diet (35-40%) with higher protein (20-25%) and fewer carbohydrates, and it really does leave you feeling full, sometimes to the point where you can't consume all the calories you're meant to.

    I'm trying to maintain my weight, and was recommended to eat 1,600-1,800 calories/day by both my doctor and this website's calculator. Most days, I'm hard pressed to eat that much, but if I eat a lot of sugary or carb-rich foods, I can very easily go over and still feel hungry. I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    so i eat a lot of legumes, lentils, quinoa, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, veg, and fruit...am I gonna die?

    I hate to break it to you, but yes. At some point, you will certainly be dead.
    F'ing sweet potatoes. :#

  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    saucykia wrote: »
    I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    No you would not. Stop it. That's a completely ridiculous statement.

    Kudos for reading that far. I stopped reading on account of the earlier ridiculousness and didn't catch that awesomeness.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    cwolfman13 wrote: »
    saucykia wrote: »
    Science is beginning to realise that calories in, calories out isn't a valid approach to losing or maintaining weight, and that "a calorie is a calorie" is a falsehood. Our bodies can tell the difference between different types of foods even when the calorie counts are identical. A lot of research - I recommend Dr Robert Lustig, a professor of paediatric endrocronology - has pointed to the low fat, high sugar diet as the primary if not sole cause of the obesity epidemic in the West, and numerous studies have shown people eating the same calories losing different amounts of weight.

    If you want an accurate picture of what caused you to put the pounds on, eat normally for a few weeks but log it accurately. After a few weeks, you'll be able to see what kind of diet you're eating and to notice where changes need to be made. For instance, you might see you're eating far too many calories, though the likelihood is you'll be eating more carbs, sugar and salt from processed food. Current science is advocating for a return to a more moderate fat diet (35-40%) with higher protein (20-25%) and fewer carbohydrates, and it really does leave you feeling full, sometimes to the point where you can't consume all the calories you're meant to.

    I'm trying to maintain my weight, and was recommended to eat 1,600-1,800 calories/day by both my doctor and this website's calculator. Most days, I'm hard pressed to eat that much, but if I eat a lot of sugary or carb-rich foods, I can very easily go over and still feel hungry. I also lose 1-2 pounds/week on a low sugar, higher fat and higher protein diet, even eating upwards of 2,000 calories/day, but if I eat the same calories in processed bread (added sugar), pasta with tomato sauce (lots of added sugar) and processed soup (lots of added sugar) I'd gain.

    so i eat a lot of legumes, lentils, quinoa, brown rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, veg, and fruit...am I gonna die?

    Obviously.

    You want to hear something worse? I've made pasta with homemade tomato sauce. I added lots of other vegetables and it had lots of grams of sugar, as a result, even though I didn't add any.

    Glad to know that "pasta with tomato sauce" inherently has "lots of added sugar" even if you don't add any sugar. That makes total sense! Well, I guess I did add the vegetables with the sugar (and the tomatoes), so there you go.