So in theory you could do no exercise at all and still lose weight with a deficit
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of course! but exercise is so worth doing for loads of reasons as well as burning calories...0
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Unless you're filling the space left by the fat with muscle -- exceedingly unlikely -- working out isn't meaningfully going to affect your loose skin. That's a fact.0
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My sis and started started dieting and she lost weight but I haven't. It's soo frustrating
How do people lose weight without exercise and diet? I think my body just needs both diet and exercise together. 0 -
PinkPixiexox wrote: »Yes, you can lose weight without exercise - but I do believe that exercise will always help in the long run to maintain a healthy heart and lifestyle
Cosigned. I sleep and feel better when I exercise. I aspire to be like my mom, who is incredibly active at age 78, rather than my fiance's mom, who has lost most of the muscle tone in her legs and is essentially chair-walker-bed-bound.
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Edited: This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only deficit matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.0 -
This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
err no only the deficit matters, it doesnt matter where it comes from.0 -
This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
err no only the deficit matters, it doesn't matter where it comes from.
No dispute here, but in terms of results the vast majority will achieve this by monitoring diet and exercise.0 -
This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
I don't see how that is possible. The only way for them to gain weight would to be to eat over maintenance consistently to re-gain the weight. Exercise has nothing to do with that.
If someone wants to sit on their butt the rest of their life and eat at deficit/maintenance they won't gain weight.
I'm not commenting on if it's 'healthy'.
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This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
err no only the deficit matters, it doesn't matter where it comes from.
No dispute here, but in terms of results the vast majority will achieve this by monitoring diet and exercise.
Thats saying something different from your previous pointFor the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
If I burn calories, then the ones I choose not to eat back affect the deficit. Exercise also affects weight loss in other complementary ways. Avtually I wonder what the split is for people losing weight from people who use diet alone, exercise alone (probably the smallest) and both. Because its much harder to burn 500 calories than not eat 500, then i also wonder what % of peoples defiits are made up of exercise calories rather than eating less.
Even if you eat back 100% the flexibility that can give people in making a diet more sustainable is significant.0 -
not in theory. its a fact.0
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Not only in theory.0
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This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
err no only the deficit matters, it doesn't matter where it comes from.
No dispute here, but in terms of results the vast majority will achieve this by monitoring diet and exercise.
Thats saying something different from your previous pointFor the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
If I burn calories, then the ones I choose not to eat back affect the deficit. Exercise also affects weight loss in other complementary ways. Actually I wonder what the split is for people losing weight from people who use diet alone, exercise alone (probably the smallest) and both. Because its much harder to burn 500 calories than not eat 500, then i also wonder what % of peoples deficits are made up of exercise calories rather than eating less.
Even if you eat back 100% the flexibility that can give people in making a diet more sustainable is significant.
We are in complete agreement. I misstated this and meant to say deficit. I'm trying to keep in context with the origin statement "So in theory you could do no exercise at all and still lose weight with a deficit".
There's a tremendous amount of data here on long term success:
http://www.nwcr.ws/
I agree that it is much easier to not eat than work out; however I also believe this goes against our nature as evidenced by the NWCR results.
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This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
I don't see how that is possible. The only way for them to gain weight would to be to eat over maintenance consistently to re-gain the weight. Exercise has nothing to do with that.
If someone wants to sit on their butt the rest of their life and eat at deficit/maintenance they won't gain weight.
I'm not commenting on if it's 'healthy'.
Its based on a survey which showed that 90% of the people who managed to maintain also exercised on a regular basis. If exercise has nothing to do with being able to successfullly maintain then why do such a high % do it? I can think of a few reasons, but part of those who will be succcessful will manage to use the calories burned to assist keeping them at maintenance or in deficit, which is more advantageous who dont have those calories to fall back on, all things being equal.
That is no saying to maintain successfully then you must exercise, because thats not true. Read what was written.0 -
Edited: This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only deficit matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
I always see that as a correlation. The people who have the mindset to maintain their weight loss are usually smart enough to know that exercise is healthy, and are disciplined enough to make both a routine.0 -
This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only diet matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
I don't see how that is possible. The only way for them to gain weight would to be to eat over maintenance consistently to re-gain the weight. Exercise has nothing to do with that.
If someone wants to sit on their butt the rest of their life and eat at deficit/maintenance they won't gain weight.
I'm not commenting on if it's 'healthy'.
I'm getting more into human behavioral issues with this statement. In order to gain weight you have to eat in surplus, indisputable. However people are rarely successful at keeping weight off merely by diet and will eventually return to old habits and overeat. They stop logging and tracking, stop being aware and mindful, and regain the weight. Exercise acts as an immediate feedback mechanism.0 -
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I lost my first thirty pounds without adding any significant exercise.
I got pink in my cheeks when I started exercising seriously. I like exercising more than dieting, and I find the results (not weight related) to be more immediate.
I think regular exercise might be a keystone habit, an indicator of long term success.0 -
stevencloser wrote: »Edited: This is very much a short term/long term issue. For the short term and only considering weight loss, yes only deficit matters.
For long term sustainable success exercise is critical. Over 90% of people who have lost over 30lbs and kept this off over one year exercise ~30 mins to 1 hour 5x/week.
Theoretically yes, you can do this without exercise, but you decrease your chances of success in doing so.
I always see that as a correlation. The people who have the mindset to maintain their weight loss are usually smart enough to know that exercise is healthy, and are disciplined enough to make both a routine.
Correlation is true for me.
I have always exercised when I happen to care about maintaining or losing weight, but it's the mindset that does it, not the exercise. If I had the same motivation but was unable to exercise, I think I'd lose/maintain fine.
I regained after maintaining for 5 years once before, and I stopped exercising before I regained, but I didn't regain BECAUSE I stopped exercising, the same factors resulted in me doing both (largely depression and not caring).0
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