Your Thoughts on the Easy/Lazy way to fat loss (Surgery)?

The story was pretty long as it was, so I just left out alot more side things, that i'll try mention quickly.

1. While its a long story and takes a while to read, the conversation with the nurse, and the time I spent thinking about it and all that, was pretty short. 5 mins conversation. 5-10 mins thinking to myself. I didn't go brooding on for half a day about it till I wrote the post, it just came back to me when I came on mfp.
2. I meant the post and opinions / discussion (and my own opinions about what she did), in regards to just weight loss surgery in general though. Not about her personally. her life only. Or what she is doing. Just used her as an example to highlight some of the points (the cost, not changing lifestyle / habits, cosmetic reasons only versus medical necessity, etc).
3. She may be the nicest person I'd ever meet, she might be the best mother in the world, and have amazing hobbies/interests and everything else. I'm not saying she's a bad human/person or doesn't deserve any respect what-so-ever because she got the surgery done. Again, I just used her as an example to highlight some of the points for opinions.

4. Everyone judges everyone about everything. That's what an opinion is, a judgement of sorts. I didn't treat her any different to any other patient or even staff. I didn't go saying any of that stuff to the nurse or other staff or friends. Nor did I go making jokes about her or anything of sort.

5. I know i'm very critical / blunt or even harsh in my opinions / thoughts / judgements, but what I say or how I act or treat people, isn't based on any opinions I come up with to myself like that. And I accept that people may and do / will judge me just as bad as well.

6. It doesn't really need to be my business to have an opinion about something. I'm not trying to force it on her or anyone else there or on here. Just sharing it, and i'm glad to read all the different stuff people here are saying, even those that disagree with it or say some of the bad things about me.

7. What one person said, about taking a risk that could end in death (even if its such a tiny risk) for minor improvements. I agree with that. With general anaesthetic - no matter what they use, what the surgery is, how long your under it for, or anything else, that there is supposedly always a chance (not sure of 1 in however many people, or what percentage it is), that you don't wake up from it. so to take that risk to lose a bit of fat for cosmetic reasons, imo again as controversial as it is, does seem to not be the smartest idea.

Angelfire365 wrote: »

I don't care about her, personally anyway. Again, she was an example to highlight some of the points.
And you'll find plenty like me. The theatre staff (in the different complexes i've worked in), are a team. from the housekeeping/cleaners, up to the surgeons and nurses and doctors, they all treat and talk to each other about that stuff.
I couldn't go up and ask for any personal details about a patient like their address or life history or anything like that.
But I can ask for details about their current procedure, risks, and medical issues related to it. The vast majority of staff would talk freely about almost all of it even to those of us who aren't directly doing the surgery.
But that doesn't mean the patients aren't treated well or given any less respect.
Staff make little comments and observations to each other of their own opinions about a patient or the procedure or similar things. they're(we're) not robots or anything like that.
Many times, we've dealt with massive patients, and while that patient is lying under anaesthetic and naked on the bed in sight of all staff in the theatre, they'd straight up say as if he wasn't even there"this is a really fat man, we're gonna have to get another 3 or 4 people to come in and help us move him" or whatever. Its not a very nice thing to say. But it still doesn't make it any less true or particularly bad. Yet if that was said while the patient was awake, they would almost certainly get upset and probably put a complaint or something, even though its a cold hard fact, and the doctor or whoever wasn't saying it to insult him. but as a general statement for the purpose of the procedure. As in, "this guy needs to be moved. He's too big for 4 of us. Call in some other staff, we need help with it".

TeaBea wrote: »

Just out of curiousity, are your legs big from fat though? Or could some/most of that be muscle? I've seen a lot of complaints from women on here about big legs/thighs, but for alot of them it just seems they have muscular legs, not like fat legs or anything like that.

AJ_G wrote: »

I more or less pretty much agree with you there!

Lounmoun wrote: »

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Thanks for that. And yeah jealousy is definitely some of it, I admit. maybe more than I even know.
But I didn't go out of my way to find all that out.
The doctors/surgeons were debating about how to proceed, and talked about what she ate that day and when. And usually when they do that for patients, I don't give a second thought. But in this case, I did think about what they said previously when they talked about what she ate, since it seemed to be linked in about the surgery anyway.
And the nurse I was talking too, mentioned the general price range of that kind of surgery anyway too.

dljones67 wrote: »

As I said above in my reply, all theatre staff (here anyway) are a team, and don't strictly hide everything about a patient from each other. I freely walk in and out of theatres during operations and can ask about what they're doing, or why they might be doing that for certain patients or whatever, just out of curiosity and learning some random tidbits about the different procedures.
I set up the theatres (attachments, surgical sets, equipment, etc) for the operations.
I transfer patients from beds to the tables.
I assist (since there can be anywhere from 3-8 people) in turning and moving patietns and positioning them on the bed. I assist with taking off casts, holding limbs for new casts or stitching.
Put on the various monitors and stuff (ecg leads, blood pressure cuffs, etc).
I bring the different x ray machines into the theatres when needed.
During certain brain surgeries (wouldn't know which kinds exactly), the patients are kept awake / conscious. And in my short time there so far, i've had to stay in there and keep talking with the patients and ask certain questions throughout those surgeries (So the surgeons know that they didn't cut or do something wrong or whatever with the brain).
I did it twice so far.
And then after the operations, I transfer the patients again, bring them to recover, and go back and clean up the theatre.
I also have more responsibilities outside the theatres / not involving patients too, but no point listing them out.

ManiacalLaugh wrote: »

I didn't go taking stock. I remembered what the doctors/surgeons said she ate. I know the details of the breakfasts in the hospital because I work there. and its very much routine. The meals are given at the same times every day, with the same few options, and always made the same way too. (of course, different options or some are made specially, for patients that need it).

shell1005 wrote: »

Country? Province/state/area? Hospital? Patient name or nationality or age or anything?
My name or details? My job/position?
Not a single person I work with knows my online name, nor am I friends with on here or on any online site. I have no doubt that some (or maybe even many) people in the hospital use MFP or some other calorie counting site.
But "a woman - possibly has a baby or young child - had a tummy tuck - in a hospital" I don't think that narrows it down too much for you or most people...

jgnatca wrote: »

"Perhaps orderlies like yourself would be less judjy if you could see what I ate before and after my surgery (which wasn't much)."
I love it. You talk of me judging people. Yet then use a judgmental line like that, classing all orderlies into one group, and assuming they all are judgmental. That sounds a bit hypocritical both for being judgmental and making them sound to be beneath you.
I don't know what an orderly is. But that is not what I am. Nor do I bring food to patients.