It just won't shift
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amandajaneowen wrote: »
I eat maybe 3/4 eggs a week u see I don't eat meat and have eggs now and again .Have you been advised by a doctor to stick to 800 calories per day? That's super low. I'd investigate your logging a little. I see a bunch of 'x eggs' and '1 cup' and '1 portion'.
I use the portion and cup application on mfp as a guide will look into how to log without the application guide on here Thank you
Yes Dr put me on 800 daily as I have colon problems and can't eat many foods.amandajaneowen wrote: »You need to get past the idea its about the types of food you are eating and look more closely at the amount.
You are eating more thna you think and burning less with the result being you are at maintenance and not at the deficit you need to lose. If you have just over a stone to lose and its not gone in 9 months then its not being impatient thats the problem. If you have veen losing slowly then your deficit is smaller than you realise.
I am very strict at counting my calories I stick to my daily amount and know if I go over by small bit .I know how much I burn as I have personal trainer my daughter is trained instruter.
Had message about thyroid check from a mfp so will check that .Thanks for message
You are measuring using cups and servings. That is not very strict but an inferior method of counting when compared to weighimng with a scale. You are either at deficit or you are not. You are not losing for a sustained period according to you hence the conclusion is that you are not at deficit.amandajaneowen wrote: »You need to get past the idea its about the types of food you are eating and look more closely at the amount.
You are eating more thna you think and burning less with the result being you are at maintenance and not at the deficit you need to lose. If you have just over a stone to lose and its not gone in 9 months then its not being impatient thats the problem. If you have veen losing slowly then your deficit is smaller than you realise.
I am very strict at counting my calories I stick to my daily amount and know if I go over by small bit .I know how much I burn as I have personal trainer my daughter is trained instruter.
Had message about thyroid check from a mfp so will check that .Thanks for message
You are measuring using cups and servings. That is not very strict but an inferior method of counting when compared to weighimng with a scale. You are either at deficit or you are not. You are not losing for a sustained period according to you hence the conclusion is that you are not at deficit.
Yes I have seen that I use the application on mfp to log food but never weigh food or put my salad etc in a cup lol I must try and log food dairy more carefully and not just push the mfp application on cups etc may be I should weigh the salad veg fruit etc and log it as weight thank you for your good adviceamandajaneowen wrote: »You need to get past the idea its about the types of food you are eating and look more closely at the amount.
You are eating more thna you think and burning less with the result being you are at maintenance and not at the deficit you need to lose. If you have just over a stone to lose and its not gone in 9 months then its not being impatient thats the problem. If you have veen losing slowly then your deficit is smaller than you realise.
I am very strict at counting my calories I stick to my daily amount and know if I go over by small bit .I know how much I burn as I have personal trainer my daughter is trained instruter.
Had message about thyroid check from a mfp so will check that .Thanks for message
You are measuring using cups and servings. That is not very strict but an inferior method of counting when compared to weighimng with a scale. You are either at deficit or you are not. You are not losing for a sustained period according to you hence the conclusion is that you are not at deficit.
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Your logging is inaccurate.
Your exercise burns are over estimated.
Your basic knowledge of nutrition is flawed.
You are not creating a sustained calorie deficit.
All the above are easily solvable by reading the replies in this thread.
Thank you for advice But my calories burned are not over estimated
And my knowledge is very much upto date .
I eat a very health diet I am 47 a granny of 3
And work as mental health nurse so I am more then awear of healthy diets etc
I am not one for fried food and cakes and high sugar foods .It has been brought to my attention my lack of weigh loss may be due to a medical condition I have and will be seeing my consultant .It amazed me how many negative comments I have recived and only a hand full of helpful ones0 -
They aren't negative comments, they just aren't what you wanted to hear. There is a difference.
There is no such thing as a perfectly accurate measurement of a calorie burn, you literally cannot say there is a 0% chance they are not over estimated.
Also, the previous replies you made do indicate that you do not have as strong a grasp on nutrition as you believe. Of all the replies in this thread, you're showing overwhelming preference to the answers that suit you (like the medical condition) and overwhelming bias against the answers you don't believe are true.0 -
amandajaneowen wrote: »I bike about 30 miles that's 2004 cals
You think you burn 2004 calories cycling 30 miles? Try half that.
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I'm not sure where you are, but some of your food entries are from Tesco so I'm going to assume you are in the UK. The NICE guidelines say that if there are circumstances that mean you have to eat only 800 kcals per day it MUST be monitored closely by your doctor. So, what does your doctor say about your lack of weight loss?0
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OP. I'm not sure I'm following.
I don't get the correlation between a 'colon problem / not being able to eat many foods' and being restricted to 800 calories a day. Did your doctor give a rationale for the 800 calories a day? I'd have personally thought with a (presumably) long term colon condition adequate nutrition would be a priority.
Did the medical professional who told you to eat at an extremely low amount of calories not give you detailed information surrounding this and refer you to a dietician for on going surveillance?
How are you managing to fuel this extreme exercise calorie burn on 800 calories a day? Did your Dr not explain that intense exercise on a calorie intake so low is not really recommended?
You say you can't eat many food's, but your diary contains eggs, fish, citrus, fruit, cheese, pasta, bread, vegetables, herbalife shakes, a variety of other shakes, chocolate, macdonalds, and most other common foodstuffs. I can't actually see what's missing.
Your logging is way off and highly innacurate. You are not weighing and you are using inappropriate datasbase entries. I assume you are in the UK, you are logging american entries.
Your exercise burns are massively inflated / inappropriately logged.
Do you actually believe that you are eating 800 calories and burning 1000+ exercise calories, resulting in a negative net calorie intake on a regular basis?
Why would being a MHN mean you have a grasp on healthy diets? Not that you have shown you do.
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Well thank you for your comments they are duly noted and will be taken in as a jugment on my knowledge or apparently lack of !! You would think that after nursing for 25 years and bringing up 2 children I would have learnt something .also a wellbeing nurse so may be My lack in listening is flawed !!! I think Not .i was simply implying if my lack of weight loss was something maybe others had endured. not asking for a test on my knowledge which with having a trained nutritionist in the family you would think would be a little bit better then most ??
O well off for a run to chase out all the negative comments on my ability to know how many calories are in what and when something has a high fat content. Feel worse now than I did about my Wright so thank you for that0 -
amandajaneowen wrote: »Hi
I have been eating healthy for about 9 months now, I don't eat meat not because
I have views in killing animal but because I am sick of eating rubbish meat not knowing how it was killed and cleaned and what it has been injected with "yuck"
I don't eat any fried food, any fats ie butter cream etc
I don t eat cake etc
Only small amount of bread per werk
I work out at 4 classes a week
I run and bike most weeks
SO WHY DON'T I LOSE THIS EXTRA WEIGHT !!
Eat your healthy fats! Fix those hormones.0 -
If you're unwilling to accept the fact you might be wrong, then there is little point in discussion in a public forum.0
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Is your daughter a Registered Nutritionist, an Associate Nutritionist, or the "nutritionist" that's selling you the HerbalLife? As a nurse you should be aware that the GMC says:
Wherever possible, you should avoid providing medical care to anyone with whom you have a close personal relationship.
People here are trying to answer the question you posed in your OP, and are giving you great advice. What do you have to lose (other than weight!) by trying it?0 -
amandajaneowen wrote: »Well thank you for your comments they are duly noted and will be taken in as a jugment on my knowledge or apparently lack of !! You would think that after nursing for 25 years and bringing up 2 children I would have learnt something .also a wellbeing nurse so may be My lack in listening is flawed !!! I think Not .i was simply implying if my lack of weight loss was something maybe others had endured. not asking for a test on my knowledge which with having a trained nutritionist in the family you would think would be a little bit better then most ??
O well off for a run to chase out all the negative comments on my ability to know how many calories are in what and when something has a high fat content. Feel worse now than I did about my Wright so thank you for that
Think for one moment that you are right on everything. You are right that you are consuming 800 calories a day, your right that you are burning over 2000 in exercise calories a day for 9 months. How would that be possible?
Think about it, your normal TDEE would be around 1800 for your height and activity level. That would mean you were 3000 calories under each and every day for 9 months. That means you would lose almost 6lbs every single week. You would have wasted away by now.
People aren't trying to be mean, they are trying to help you see.0 -
I am a mother of two and come from a family of nurses, but I admit I had no clue about how to really lose weight. There are so many fads and a lot of misinformation out there. Plus, nurses are not nutritionists. Being a nurse yourself I am sure you realize the small amount of nutrition training nurses get. My SIL is a head pediatric nurse and she was drinking Shakeology and did not know that the FDA doesn't regulate diet supplements.
You say your calorie burn is accurate, how do you know? Are you using a heart rate monitor?0 -
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amandajaneowen wrote: »Hi
I have been eating healthy for about 9 months now, I don't eat meat not because
I have views in killing animal but because I am sick of eating rubbish meat not knowing how it was killed and cleaned and what it has been injected with "yuck"
I don't eat any fried food, any fats ie butter cream etc
I don t eat cake etc
Only small amount of bread per werk
I work out at 4 classes a week
I run and bike most weeks
SO WHY DON'T I LOSE THIS EXTRA WEIGHT !!
I eat meat.
I eat fried foods.
I use butter.
I put cream in my coffee.
I eat cake.
I exercise only sporadically.
I've lost 40 lbs.
I use a food scale to weigh all my food. When I do exercise, I make sure to eat back no more than half of the calories I've burned.
You are eating more than you burn. Period.0 -
amandajaneowen wrote: »Well thank you for your comments they are duly noted and will be taken in as a jugment on my knowledge or apparently lack of !! You would think that after nursing for 25 years and bringing up 2 children I would have learnt something .also a wellbeing nurse so may be My lack in listening is flawed !!! I think Not .i was simply implying if my lack of weight loss was something maybe others had endured. not asking for a test on my knowledge which with having a trained nutritionist in the family you would think would be a little bit better then most ??
O well off for a run to chase out all the negative comments on my ability to know how many calories are in what and when something has a high fat content. Feel worse now than I did about my Wright so thank you for that
Um. I believe it was you who asked ...amandajaneowen wrote: »Hi
I have been eating healthy for about 9 months now, I don't eat meat not because
I have views in killing animal but because I am sick of eating rubbish meat not knowing how it was killed and cleaned and what it has been injected with "yuck"
I don't eat any fried food, any fats ie butter cream etc
I don t eat cake etc
Only small amount of bread per werk
I work out at 4 classes a week
I run and bike most weeks
SO WHY DON'T I LOSE THIS EXTRA WEIGHT !!
We are giving you the answer. You are consuming more calories than you are burning.
I eat meat, fats, cake, and bread, as well as other things of course ... but I meticulously weigh and log it all to ensure I am eating at or under my recommended calories. When in doubt, I overestimate the calories consumed a little bit.
I exercise quite a bit ... I am a cyclist and also enjoy hiking plus a few other sports. I underestimate the calories burned from them all, plus only eat about half my calories back.
And I have lost weight.
I encourage you to enter your info into MFP, set yourself as sedentary, and select a goal (e.g. 1 lb/week). MFP will give you your maximum calories. Then carefully and meticulously weigh and log everything you eat to ensure you're at or just slight under those recommended calories.
And as for exercise ... most calorie counters overestimate the number of calories you burn. Sometimes quite significantly. As I said above, underestimate, and then only eat half back.
Try that for a couple months and see how you go.
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Weird thread.
"What am I doing wrong?"
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"Don't tell me what I'm doing wrong!" OP, we've all had some big lessons to learn. That's the way to succeed.
We're all here to change.0 -
Weird thread.
"What am I doing wrong?"
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"Don't tell me what I'm doing wrong!" OP, we've all had some big lessons to learn. That's the way to succeed.
We're all here to change.
i agree with this post. I only lost weight as i started to become aware of what i was doing and make some changes.
OP dont get upset only helpful advice has been given and you are taking it the wrong way
you are obviously being mindful of what you are eating just use the scale to track it more accurately.
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She was on my friends list and has said she's leaving MFP0
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smotheredincheese wrote: »
I have no idea, I always listen to people who've been on the journey longer than I have x0 -
Why do some people bother to ask for help and then get mad when people try to help? Weird...0
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amandajaneowen wrote: »Well thank you for your comments they are duly noted and will be taken in as a jugment on my knowledge or apparently lack of !! You would think that after nursing for 25 years and bringing up 2 children I would have learnt something .also a wellbeing nurse so may be My lack in listening is flawed !!! I think Not .i was simply implying if my lack of weight loss was something maybe others had endured. not asking for a test on my knowledge which with having a trained nutritionist in the family you would think would be a little bit better then most ??
O well off for a run to chase out all the negative comments on my ability to know how many calories are in what and when something has a high fat content. Feel worse now than I did about my Wright so thank you for that
There are plenty of people in your boat wondering why they haven't lost weight... they are all overeating.
You asked why you weren't losing weight. People told you why.
You can either listen to the advice given and try and see where you're going wrong or you can keep believing everyone are just big meanies trying to insult your knowledge and make you feel bad and stay where you are. It's your choice.0 -
Wishing you all the very best in your weight loss journey!0
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Why do some people bother to ask for help and then get mad when people try to help? Weird...
Because some people don't really want help/advice. They just want to be told what they want to hear. "You're doing everything right. It's the program that doesn't work. You are doing everything perfectly and don't need to change a single thing".
I don't see how that advice could be helpful to anyone who is struggling with weight loss, but if you're one of the people who dares to say, "You're not doing this correctly. Try this instead", you are mean, rude, etc.
I also don't see how the OP leaving MFP is going to solve her problems. Maybe she can find the "Puppies and Rainbows" weight loss plan, where everything you do is right and beautiful and will result in immediate, permanent weight loss.
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She was on my friends list and has said she's leaving MFP
Well that's a shame.
These boards get post after post about people wondering why they haven't lost weight. The stories vary from people who exercise several hours a day, people who are vegetarian/vegan/raw/"clean" eaters, people who "barely" eat, people who "struggle" to eat their calorie allowance, etc. In the end there is only one thing they have in common and no it is not a medical condition; it's that they eat more than they realize. Measuring cups aren't enough. A food scale is the most accurate method of ensuring you're eating the right amount of calories. I've even started weighing things like protein bars. The bar is supposed to be 60 grams; sometimes it's 58 grams and sometimes it's as high as 67 grams. Those few grams make a big difference throughout the day.
I know a lot of people don't want to hear or accept that they're hindering their own weight loss but they'll probably never make progress otherwise. In OP's case she had serious denial because of her and her daughter's professions. OP mentioned being a mental health/well being nurse and that has nothing to do with nutrition and weight loss. Besides, nurses may be knowledgeable about health but do you know how many nurses I see outside taking smoke breaks when I walk past the hospital in my area? People don't always do what's best for them even when they know better. It's like having an obese gym teacher, which is all too common. You could eat nothing but vegetables all day but if you eat more calories than you burn for the day, you're not going to lose weight. Plain and simple. Everyone would love to believe their thyroid is the problem, but there are plenty of people who have thyroid issues here that have lost weight. It doesn't change that much that CICO is all of a sudden rendered useless.0 -
You know, this thread was honestly full of A LOT of good advice, expressed in a genial manner no less. That stuff is the GOLD of what you want to find from a message board no less because it just doesn't happen often at all... and OP still gets offended. I'm sorry, OP, but you're turning your nose down on people that actually want to help you, and that's sad. Good luck to you anyway. When you're ready to accept advice, you'll actually make a change in your journey.0
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Well I for one would like to thank all those who tell it to me straight, cheers for the support x0
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I just looked at your diary. You're not weighing your food.
You need to watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVjWPclrWVY
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!
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