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  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    juliebowling1 wrote: »
    Why are there so many asshats?

    The irony of your post eludes you ... doesn't it?
  • masterloafer
    masterloafer Posts: 16 Member
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    If you run at too deep of a deficit your body thinks you're starving and doesnt run properly. Its dangerous to deprive yourself too much. food is fuel. Thats why the app give a you a little pep talk to hit your calorie goals if you under-eat for the day and won't give you your predicted weight.

    Im not a doctor or a nutritionist so I can't speak about superfoods or metabolism boosters specifically but its clear that an apple and a few nuts are going to be a better calorie source with way more nutrients for your body to thrive on than the same amount of calories in 3 french fries or a candy.

    Happy snacking friend! :)
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    groovy_D wrote: »
    I'm with @juliebowling1 ^ you can support and correct someone kindly. Why be such *kitten* about it, people??

    More irony >:)
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    It never fails that those complaining about a lack of kindness are the very ones resorting to name calling and the rudest posts in a thread ... all while failing to comment on the topic at hand. Calling people "*kitten*" and "asshats" does not address that the OP will not increase her metabolism by eating an apple and some nuts because that isn't how the body works.
  • kristen6350
    kristen6350 Posts: 1,094 Member
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    groovy_D wrote: »
    I'm with @juliebowling1 ^ you can support and correct someone kindly. Why be such *kitten* about it, people??

    So, you feel that I should just agree with the post when I know it's incorrect information and that the OP is going about things wrong? I should just let her believe that what she posted will work, when more than likely it will make her come back next week saying she gained 3lbs? I understand not being rude, but me disagreeing with her isn't being unsupportive. It's providing correct information so she doesn't go down a long road, with no results, because she's been misinformed.
  • 999tigger
    999tigger Posts: 5,235 Member
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    groovy_D wrote: »
    I'm with @juliebowling1 ^ you can support and correct someone kindly. Why be such *kitten* about it, people??

    Feel free to add your supportive advie then. All I saw was someone who appeared to have a complete misunderstanding of how weight loss and metabolism works. I merely asked her to explain why she believed what she did and then I would be able to explain why she was working on a misunderstanding.

    No need for her to be so defensive. Feel free to provide your own advice though.
  • rhyolite_
    rhyolite_ Posts: 188 Member
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    groovy_D wrote: »
    I'm with @juliebowling1 ^ you can support and correct someone kindly. Why be such *kitten* about it, people??

    Is there a reason you yourself cannot "support and correct" kindly when you think other posters are taking the wrong approach? It's always the "stop being so mean" posters that start name-calling.
  • Eldow1977
    Eldow1977 Posts: 48 Member
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    Thank you to everyone who posted advise to support me, I don't understand about metabolism and calories would obviously not be my specialist subject on mastermind. I'm very new to this and I am still learning which is why I needed advice. I'm becoming increasing frustrated that the genuine people are being over shone by the kind of people who offered the initial four comments I got and it seems those are only interested in turning every post from someone who doesn't know what they are doing into an episode of Jeremy Kyle with comments of "Troll" or "are you serious". I wouldn't take these kind of comments from my friend in the real world so why would I take it from stranger just because they have anonymity. Called me a troll!!!!!!! For those of you who are concerned that I may have misunderstood the ideas behind increasing my metabolism, I am continuing to eat at a deficit and it's working so far. Thank you though, I appreciate it. I'll see how the snacking thing goes but I will bare in mind it's potentially not as it's suggested. Oh and I got the information about increasing my metabolism from the Blog section on this site. :)
  • kristen6350
    kristen6350 Posts: 1,094 Member
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    Elshe1977 wrote: »
    lol got warned and had my reply removed. How is telling someone to get off my post because they're wasting space abusive. Oh but Troll is allowed.

    I can see why some people may have misconstrued your "nievity" for "Trollism". These boards are polluted with people coming on spreading mis-information, maliciously. The "seniors" here that have lot of experience in this and know what works, would really like to stop the mis-information. It's not good for "newbies", like yourself to be introduced to incorrect information right from the start. So, the people who asked if you were kidding, and called you a troll were just trying to figure out if you were serious or not, maybe in a not so nice way.

    I'm sorry you got wrong info on the MFP blogs. Stick around here and read the Stickies on top of the message board pages. There are a ton of people here that have lost upwards of 100lbs by following these stickies.

    Good luck. I hope you stick around and learn from the people who have tried and tested things over the years. There's a ton of good advice.
  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
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    Elshe1977 wrote: »
    lol got warned and had my reply removed. How is telling someone to get off my post because they're wasting space abusive. Oh but Troll is allowed. :D It was never my intention to be abusive in any way but to simple point out the hypocrisy that had taken over the "support" forums.

    If you'd linked to the blog in your OP you'd probably have got the replies you got later on (that the blog is utter rubbish), whereas your current OP looks like you've just taken a random idea out of the air and treated it as fact, which is why people reacted the way they did. It is also ironic that you called out someone for a typo when you've put 'but' instead of 'by' in your OP.
  • Eldow1977
    Eldow1977 Posts: 48 Member
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    I know Dem, lol :D
  • LeanButNotMean44
    LeanButNotMean44 Posts: 852 Member
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    masterloafer wrote: »
    If you run at too deep of a deficit your body thinks you're starving and doesnt run properly. Its dangerous to deprive yourself too much. food is fuel. Thats why the app give a you a little pep talk to hit your calorie goals if you under-eat for the day and won't give you your predicted weight.

    Im not a doctor or a nutritionist so I can't speak about superfoods or metabolism boosters specifically but its clear that an apple and a few nuts are going to be a better calorie source with way more nutrients for your body to thrive on than the same amount of calories in 3 french fries or a candy.

    Happy snacking friend! :)

    The bolded part of the post - Nope, doesn't work that way.
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    @juliebowling1 Do you have anything to contribute to the discussion about metabolism? Do have any advice to offer the OP on how to increase one's resting metabolic rate? The people you are busy insulting can answer "yes" to those two simple questions. So far, you can't honestly do the same.

    The simple truth is that there are no magic foods that boost a metabolism in any meaningful way. Lean mass does burn more calories, but it is a single digit burn per pound of added muscle ... a time consuming and arduous process, especially for women.
  • Venus_Red
    Venus_Red Posts: 209 Member
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    brianpperkins wrote: »
    .. a time consuming and arduous process, especially for women.

    Whoa, what?
  • brianpperkins
    brianpperkins Posts: 6,124 Member
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    withaflourish wrote: »
    brianpperkins wrote: »
    .. a time consuming and arduous process, especially for women.

    Whoa, what?

    Yes, building actual new muscle is a time consuming and arduous process. The lower levels of testosterone make it even more difficult for women.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
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    withaflourish wrote: »
    brianpperkins wrote: »
    .. a time consuming and arduous process, especially for women.

    Whoa, what?

    Generally speaking, it's more difficult for women to add muscle than men, as they lack the abundance of testosterone.

    That's not to say there aren't exceptions on both sides - but they ARE exceptions...not the rule.
  • masterloafer
    masterloafer Posts: 16 Member
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    All i mean by the bolded is that you need food to live. If you are starving yourself you will lose weight, yes, of course, but you may also die of starvation. If not that severe than at least be exhausted all the time and dizzy and lacking essential nutrients for a healthy body. You have to eat. Every living thing on this planet needs fuel to survive and so eating way too few calories a day is a deficit and you'll lose weight but you'll also be very sick. Hit your targets (dont go over or too far under) with healthy stuff, like your lovely apple and tasty nuts, and be safe in your weight loss.
  • sayyestohealthy
    sayyestohealthy Posts: 16 Member
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    Alright didn't realise there was such a response to my comment here.

    First off i want to make it clear that the version of the word 'troll' i used was to describe someone who causes trouble on the internet. I was not calling you a troll as in a creature living under a bridge.

    I'm sorry i didn't take your post seriously, it's just that silly metabolism posts are always on the forums, it just didn't seem that your post was real as I'd never heard of foods increasing metabolism. It just seemed far fetched and there are trolls on these forums.

    I'll choose my words better next time (or to be frank i probably won't say anything) but i think you should too. Saying someone is a waste of space is a horrible thing to say. You're basically saying the world would be a better place without them. That is NEVER okay. As someone who has dealt with depression i find it very offensive.

    Anyway, again I'm sorry i didn't take your post seriously and had a sarcastic response. But if you're going to get easily offended might be better to stay off the internet :)

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