Build muscle and lose fat at the same time?
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rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?0 -
effervescence1 wrote: »sunparakeet wrote: »You really can't lose weight and gain weight at the same time. First work on reducing your body fat %, then start building muscle through strength training!
Actually you can, in a three month period, I gained 12 pounds of muscle but had a net weight loss of 12 pounds. That means I lost 25 pounds of fat/water while gaining muscle. My doctors office uses a body composition analyzer. I crossfit 2-3x per week, take 5 hours of high level dance classes and I am in the Colorguard for a DCA open class drum corps with 12-18 hours of rehearsal per weekend.
What? One of these things?;
Yeah they're far from accurate.
I could get a better body fat percentage reading with a knife... some how.
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rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.0 -
At this pace you'd gain over 50 pounds of muscle in a year. This is awesome. For a 42 YO male this is really good news.rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
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_Terrapin_ wrote: »
At this pace you'd gain over 50 pounds of muscle in a year. This is awesome. For a 42 YO male this is really good news.rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
And at a deficit! Think how much a surplus would yield. Hello Olympia.0 -
3dogsrunning wrote: »_Terrapin_ wrote: »
At this pace you'd gain over 50 pounds of muscle in a year. This is awesome. For a 42 YO male this is really good news.rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
And at a deficit! Think how much a surplus would yield. Hello Olympia.
Exactly. I'll use a scale for trends but creating muscle at 4 pounds a clip is. . . .just. . . . .epic.
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
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IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Mmmk 4 lb's
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How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?
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More bro science that it can't be done. It is correct that if you are a body builder and putting on muscle mass that you will also put on some fat.
But if you are "getting in shape", muscle gain and fat loss is absolutely a normal occurrence.
At some point you won't be able to build mass at a calorie deficit but that takes a while.
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More bro science that it can't be done. It is correct that if you are a body builder and putting on muscle mass that you will also put on some fat.
But if you are "getting in shape", muscle gain and fat loss is absolutely a normal occurrence.
At some point you won't be able to build mass at a calorie deficit but that takes a while.
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@Rhyalus - so how much mass are we talking?0 -
I don't have a scientific answer - but from personal experience it is true... recomp is pretty easy in people who are not in shape.
Again, at some point it is not possible to gain one without the other, and I pray I get to that point one day. :-)
Recently I lost a lot of fat and gained muscle - unfortunately I never did a body fat % test first, so I can't give #s.
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I don't have a scientific answer - but from personal experience it is true... recomp is pretty easy in people who are not in shape.
Again, at some point it is not possible to gain one without the other, and I pray I get to that point one day. :-)
Recently I lost a lot of fat and gained muscle - unfortunately I never did a body fat % test first, so I can't give #s.
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I don't think anyone will argue that at the beginning of exercise there is some muscle added while fat loss occurred but it is not a huge amount.
What most people think is muscle building is actually fat loss which exposed unlying muscle, giving a more muscular look.0 -
sunparakeet wrote: »You really can't lose weight and gain weight at the same time. First work on reducing your body fat %, then start building muscle through strength training!
I can't agree more.
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?
Nutritional periodization, cyclical dieting. It is "possible", which was the question. Is it likely the average joe will replicate "my" results? No, everyone is DIFFERENT, genetics, diet composition.
Care to post any scientific studies stating its not possible?
You cant0 -
I gather you can add muscle in a deficit IF that deficit is less than 500 calories.
https://www.t-nation.com/training/5-dumbest-muscle-myths
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DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?
Nutritional periodization, cyclical dieting. It is "possible", which was the question. Is it likely the average joe will replicate "my" results? No, everyone is DIFFERENT, genetics, diet composition.
Care to post any scientific studies stating its not possible?
You cant
And I can't find any evidence on the world being run by lizard people either... weird.0 -
IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?IsaackGMOON wrote: »DeguelloTex wrote: »
How do you reconcile an overall gain in weight with eating in a deficit?IsaackGMOON wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
you gained 4.2lb of muscle in 1 month, or just between your bod pod analysis dates?lemurcat12 wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
Wait, isn't that an overall gain? What makes you think you were in a deficit?3dogsrunning wrote: »rsergeant79 wrote: »I managed to gain 1.5 kg of muscle in 2 weeks while losing 3 kg if fat - it is possible to do both
Agreed. I just did my monthly bod pod.
Lost 2.8 lbs fat but gained 4.2 lbs LBM
It can be done in a deficit
LBM isn't just muscle.
Yes the results were for a 1 month period and it was an overall gain in weight.
LBM is everything NOT bodyfat, and thats what I said the increase was LBM.
The OP's question was, is it possible and yes it is.
What "makes me think" I am eating at a deficit? Really. Stick to topic.
Maybe he was blood doping?
Put 4lb's of blood into his body amirite?
rite guys??
rite?
Nutritional periodization, cyclical dieting. It is "possible", which was the question. Is it likely the average joe will replicate "my" results? No, everyone is DIFFERENT, genetics, diet composition.
Care to post any scientific studies stating its not possible?
You cant
And I can't find any evidence on the world being run by lizard people either... weird.
Thought so.
A simple google search will give you countless websites itemizing the criteria that losing fat and gaining muscle or LBM can happen.
If you wish to speculate about my results we can continue this convo elsewhere.
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Interesting thread haha0
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