When exercising how does the body distinguish which calorie to burn off?

Fragmoss
Fragmoss Posts: 66 Member
edited November 24 in Health and Weight Loss
I have a question:
In the add exercise label we may input our exercise. This then shows how many calories we burned, thus adding the "free" calories to out diet plan. Like, if I would normally stay at 1200 calories, but I exercised and gained a bonus of 175 calories. Thus, I have that 175 extra (unconsumed) calorie. So if I already ate 1000 calories of my 1200 allotted calories. This would give me 375 calories I could potentially eat and still stay on track. This I get, what I don't understand is this:

If I use those 375 calories yet to eat in a way that's unhealthy. A food loaded with sugar or fat. How does the human body distinguish between already *good* calories still in my body and then the add bonus *bad* calories I would now ingest into my body?

Does one cancel out the other?

Are some calories slower to process, burn?

I hope I worded this in a comprehensive way.

Thank you for any feedback.
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  • tinger12
    tinger12 Posts: 62 Member
    A calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. What food it came from doesn't matter.
  • boomshakalaka911
    boomshakalaka911 Posts: 655 Member
    A carb is a carb. The body can not tell the difference. IIFYM baby!

    Carbs metabolize easier than fats and protein. Carbs are you best source of energy. That's the only difference as far as calories go.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    Fragmoss wrote: »

    If I use those 375 calories yet to eat in a way that's unhealthy. A food loaded with sugar or fat. How does the human body distinguish between already *good* calorie still in my body and then the add bonus *bad* calories I would now ingest into my body?

    Calories are neither good nor bad...They just are.

    If you have 375 calories to eat, and you eat 375 calories, then all is well on the calorie-counting front.

    Now when you talk about the macro- and micro- nutrient breakdown of those calories, that is an entirely different conversation.

    Most people suggest hitting recommended minimums for protein and dietary fat, and then filling out your diet with whatever macro combo works best for you. For micro- nutrients, I think most people find that as long as they eat a varied diet with an emphasis on whole foods, they tend to work themselves out without fretting too much.
  • think of calories like gas in your car. The car doesn't care what gas station the fuel came from. If you put in 5L of gas here and 5L of gas there, it just knows it has 10L of gas to burn. It won't burn one 5L before the other.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Fragmoss wrote: »
    How does the human body distinguish between already *good* calories still in my body and then the add bonus *bad* calories I would now ingest into my body?
    It doesn't. You're seeing labels. Your body sees energy.

  • Fragmoss
    Fragmoss Posts: 66 Member
    Thanks, I'm about 80% carbs 10% protein and 10% fat, also a vegan. I don't get my carbs from breads or pastas. Mainly root veggies & greens.
  • spzjlb
    spzjlb Posts: 599 Member
    Biochemically and physiologically, fats are the best source of energy (ATP) in the body. But that's a detail, because the above posters are correct in that a calorie is a calorie. Exercise doesn't prefer one calorie that you ate over another.
  • To be more sciencey (but very general and not particularly precise), your muscles will burn the energy store within them (glycogen) first, then use blood sugar (glucose) when that is consumed, (blood sugar is harvested from or built out of the stuff you eat) and finally will go to your stored body fat when all the food energy is used up.

    There's no preference given to 'good' or 'bad' foods by your body, because it's all just food.

  • Fragmoss
    Fragmoss Posts: 66 Member
    edited September 2015
    How about if a person eats 1200 calories but all of the food is crap foods? Where are the nutrient's, minerals? So a person could be skinny but very unhealthy?
  • TrailBlazzinMN
    TrailBlazzinMN Posts: 509 Member
    I would love for someone to eat all of their fat from trans fat (the processed stuff) and let me know how they feel within a few days.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Fragmoss wrote: »
    How about if a person eats 1200 calories but all of the food is crap foods? Where are the nutrient's, minerals? So a person could be skinny are very unhealthy?

    Even "crap foods" have some nutrients and minerals. But yes, being skinny doesn't mean that you are healthy. Skinny people can also get ill.
  • Fragmoss wrote: »
    How about if a person eats 1200 calories but all of the food is crap foods? Where are the nutrient's, minerals? So a person could be skinny are very unhealthy?

    If a person eats at a calorie deficit, they will lose weight. If you don't get decent nutrition, you will eventually (after some time) be malnourished and end up with beriberi or scurvy or some other malnutrition disease.

    The "twinkie diet" (NOT A REAL DIET, JUST AN EXPERIMENT) was when a guy ate at a deficit, but consumed nothing but twinkies to show that what you ate made less of a difference than how much. I'm sure he'd have been sick as a dog before too long, but he still lost weight. Also, he'd be starving all the time since twinkies are all just fast burning simple carbs.
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    If I understand correctly, the body will use whatever calories are available from eaten foods first. When it runs out of those, it turns to fat stores. That's why you want to be at an overall deficit (which the 1200 calories plus 175 from exercise does for you).

    As far as what kind of foods the calories came from, the body doesn't care, at least for energy purposes. Of course, you want to get a balance of macro nutrients and all the necessary micronutrients for overall good health. But as far as the body's energy use, it doesn't matter where the calories come from. (And even for overall health, a few treats are fine, too)
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Fragmoss wrote: »
    How about if a person eats 1200 calories but all of the food is crap foods? Where are the nutrient's, minerals? So a person could be skinny but very unhealthy?

    Yes, exactly.
  • Fragmoss
    Fragmoss Posts: 66 Member
    To be more sciencey (but very general and not particularly precise), your muscles will burn the energy store within them (glycogen) first, then use blood sugar (glucose) when that is consumed, (blood sugar is harvested from or built out of the stuff you eat) and finally will go to your stored body fat when all the food energy is used up.

    There's no preference given to 'good' or 'bad' foods by your body, because it's all just food.
    Ah thank you!
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    I would love for someone to eat all of their fat from trans fat (the processed stuff) and let me know how they feel within a few days.

    In a few days? Doubt they'd notice anything unless, in order to do that, they drastically changed everything they ate. But then it wouldn't be due to the trans-fats.

    Trans-fats are a longer-term risk factor.
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    edited September 2015
    It's all chemicals to the body. There's sugar (glucose), but not good sugar and bad sugar.

    Generally speaking, when called upon to release energy for exercise, the body uses the most efficient (in terms of speed and energy required to execute) processes first. Typically, glycogen stores go first. Carbs get broken into glucose. Metabolizing fat is a pretty efficient process (and is, after all, fat's purpose). Protein is broken into amino acids, and if the body doesn't need amino acids (or if the body runs out of other fuel), it would process those for energy. Each macronutrient has it's own pathways for generating energy.

    Also generally speaking, the body will use first what it is least able to store. E.g. alcohol--that takes metabolic priority over everything else. If you've eaten lots of carbs and fat, the carbs will metabolize first. The whole "low fat" nonsense of the 60's and 70's was sort of predicated on the false notion that any dietary fat will be stored, but truthfully, how much fat get stored is completely dependent on the overall energy equation (CICO). I.e., if you eat tons of carbs, the body will store the little fat you do eat until carbs are processed, but if you eat few carbs and tons of fat, the body will metabolize fat because it is what it has.

    Not sure if that addresses your Q.
  • TrailBlazzinMN
    TrailBlazzinMN Posts: 509 Member
    edited September 2015
    stealthq wrote: »
    I would love for someone to eat all of their fat from trans fat (the processed stuff) and let me know how they feel within a few days.

    In a few days? Doubt they'd notice anything unless, in order to do that, they drastically changed everything they ate. But then it wouldn't be due to the trans-fats.

    Trans-fats are a longer-term risk factor.

    Doubt it hardly scientific. Eat 50g of trans fat in one day. Do it. I dare you.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    stealthq wrote: »
    I would love for someone to eat all of their fat from trans fat (the processed stuff) and let me know how they feel within a few days.

    In a few days? Doubt they'd notice anything unless, in order to do that, they drastically changed everything they ate. But then it wouldn't be due to the trans-fats.

    Trans-fats are a longer-term risk factor.

    Doubt it hardly scientific. Eat 50g of trans fat in one day. Do it. I dare you.
    And what else would have to go along with those 50g of trans-fats? What am I realistically going to eat to get 50g of trans-fats in a day?

  • Fragmoss
    Fragmoss Posts: 66 Member
    tinger12 wrote: »
    A calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. What food it came from doesn't matter.
    ahoy_m8 wrote: »
    It's all chemicals to the body. There's sugar (glucose), but not good sugar and bad sugar.

    Generally speaking, when called upon to release energy for exercise, the body uses the most efficient (in terms of speed and energy required to execute) processes first. Typically, glycogen stores go first. Carbs get broken into glucose. Metabolizing fat is a pretty efficient process (and is, after all, fat's purpose). Protein is broken into amino acids, and if the body doesn't use those (or if the body doesn't have enough fuel), it would process those for duel. Each macronutrient has it's own pathways for generating energy.

    Also generally speaking, the body will use first what it is least able to store. E.g. alcohol--that takes metabolic priority over everything else. If you've eaten lots of carbs and fat, the carbs will metabolize first. The whole "low fat" nonsense of the 60's and 70's was sort of predicated on the false notion that any dietary fat will be stored, but truthfully, how much fat get stored is completely dependent on the overall energy equation (CICO). I.e., if you eat tons of carbs, the body will store the little fat you do eat until carbs are processed, but if you eat few carbs and tons of fat, the body will metabolize what it had.

    Not sure if that addresses your Q.

    It did and thanks! I'm on a course of 1.0 to 2.0 lbs per week weight loss. I also am not looking for a particular clothing size but more my "feel good size" my highest weight was 240lbs I'm 5'3" and 54. This past new year I went vegan. In the beginning of June I started out at 177. I weighed in 2 days ago at 157.8 if I were to say were I'd like to end up at weight wise, that would be 133-140. Anything over the 140 I feel sluggish.

  • TrailBlazzinMN
    TrailBlazzinMN Posts: 509 Member
    edited September 2015
    And what else would have to go along with those 50g of trans-fats? What am I realistically going to eat to get 50g of trans-fats in a day?

    Doesn't matter. Supposedly a calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. You can buy trans fat all by itself.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Doesn't matter. Supposedly a calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. You can buy trans fat all by itself.
    For the purposes of energy, a calorie is a calorie. But I suspect you knew that. Plus, it has the benefit of being relevant to the OP's actual question.

  • spzjlb
    spzjlb Posts: 599 Member
    To be more sciencey (but very general and not particularly precise), your muscles will burn the energy store within them (glycogen) first, then use blood sugar (glucose) when that is consumed, (blood sugar is harvested from or built out of the stuff you eat) and finally will go to your stored body fat when all the food energy is used up.

    There's no preference given to 'good' or 'bad' foods by your body, because it's all just food.

    You are absolutely correct in how the muscles use their sources of energy during exercise, but fat is more energetic than carbs or protein. (Also, skeletal muscle primarily uses fats at rest, not exercise.) Protein and carbohydrates both contain 4 calories/gram, and fat has 9 calories/gram. This is where the earlier poster made the error.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    And what else would have to go along with those 50g of trans-fats? What am I realistically going to eat to get 50g of trans-fats in a day?

    Doesn't matter. Supposedly a calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. You can buy trans fat all by itself.

    And a calorie is a calorie. A kilocalorie is a kilocalorie is the energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 liter of water by 1 degree Celsius.
    Nutrition from foods != calories
    Cut out the crap or if you're gonna post hyperbolic crap at least do it properly and ask them to drink kerosene (which also contains calories, since calorie is a measurement for energy and not limited to food).
  • TrailBlazzinMN
    TrailBlazzinMN Posts: 509 Member
    edited September 2015
    Doesn't matter. Supposedly a calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. You can buy trans fat all by itself.
    For the purposes of energy, a calorie is a calorie. But I suspect you knew that. Plus, it has the benefit of being relevant to the OP's actual question.

    The OP wants to know the difference between "good" calories and "bad" calories and people are saying "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie". This is simply not true. If it were true, our bodies would feel exactly the same whether we were eating 50g of fat from an avocado or 50g of trans fat. And we don't even need to do a test to prove that isn't true.

    From a very simple energy standpoint, you are correct. However, that simplistic mindset does no one any good when it comes to the human body since it is an extremely complex organism.
  • DeguelloTex
    DeguelloTex Posts: 6,652 Member
    Doesn't matter. Supposedly a calorie is a calorie is a calorie to the human body. You can buy trans fat all by itself.
    For the purposes of energy, a calorie is a calorie. But I suspect you knew that. Plus, it has the benefit of being relevant to the OP's actual question.

    The OP wants to know the difference between "good" calories and "bad" calories and people are saying "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie". This is simply not true. If it were true, our bodies would feel exactly the same whether we were eating 50g of fat from an avocado or 50g of trans fat. And we don't even need to do a test to prove that isn't true.
    She asked, "...How does the body distinguish which calorie to burn off?"

    How does bringing up trans-fats answer that? How does it even relate to that?
  • ahoy_m8
    ahoy_m8 Posts: 3,053 Member
    I would love for someone to eat all of their fat from trans fat (the processed stuff) and let me know how they feel within a few days.

    To be fair, OP asked about metabolic pathways for different nutrients. "How does the body distinguish..." She didn't ask about how different nutrients make you feel.
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    It doesn't. all calories are equal. It's a measurement of energy.
  • TrailBlazzinMN
    TrailBlazzinMN Posts: 509 Member
    *shakes head*

  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    Fragmoss wrote: »
    Thanks, I'm about 80% carbs 10% protein and 10% fat, also a vegan. I don't get my carbs from breads or pastas. Mainly root veggies & greens.

    How do you feel on these macros? While an omnivore myself, I whole heartedly support veganism and have known vegans who did great on much higher carbs and lower protein than I would, but that seems pretty low fat and protein.

    Based on your macros, I recommend you spend your extra calories on nuts to bump your fat and protein, rather than sugars, which will of course bump your carbs up at the expense of protein.

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