Recomp without heavy lifting

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  • Yi5hedr3
    Yi5hedr3 Posts: 2,696 Member
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    Your best bet is to switch to ketogenic diet, so you can at least burn the fat.
  • eugenia94102
    eugenia94102 Posts: 126 Member
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    I was researching something else and bumped into some information about very good results of intermittent fasting for body recomposition (at Precision Nutrition). You might want to take a look at that. I also suspect that with your health limitations you are doing as much as you can on the exercise front. If that is the case, you will have to tackle the problem through diet. Ask your doctor for a referral to a clinical dietitian, in most cases that will be covered by insurance (This is often a one consultation "diet adjustment" coverage, so make sure you have a written list of everything you want to discuss with the CD). Good luck!
  • retirehappy
    retirehappy Posts: 4,752 Member
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    segacs wrote: »
    Can you ask your primary care physician or surgeon for a referral to a qualified physiotherapist? They should be able to design a program for you that takes your injuries into account.

    And you may have to accept that, in the short term at least, you might lose some muscle mass by not being able to work out as usual. It sucks, but it happens. The best thing you can do for yourself is to follow the doctor's instructions, avoid making anything worse, and hopefully recover and get back to your old routine as quickly as possible.

    I went through 6 weeks (my insurance maximum) of PT starting a month after surgery. They gave me a lot of exercises that I still do but at that time we were more worried about things like walking, sitting in a chair, and holding my head up then maintaining my overall muscle mass. By the end of PT we had worked up to a little more strength type exercises. My therapist told me I could return to my "normal" exercise routine with no high impact activities and no heavy free weights. I had to put normal in quotes because my normal is high impact and heavy free weights.

    I have been trying to maintain my muscle mass as well as I can with body weight exercises but I am failing horribly. I just got my body composition tested by the same people and method as normal for the first since surgery. Preop I was 5'3 130lbs and always tested between 22 and 24% body fat. Now I am 5'6 130 and 35% body fat. I don't even know how that happened. I lost 16 lbs of lean body mass and put it back on as fat in 4 months. I was expecting to lose some muscle but now I am devastated and it needs to stop.

    Well if you are the same with all that hardware, some of that weight is just that - hardware. Your actual body weight is slightly different. You might want to take that into account when doing TDEE, deciding what amount of exercise is needed etc.

    I had no idea you could gain 3 ins. in height through surgery, almost sounds tempting NOT. >:)

    I have several friends with a lot of spinal hardware, I wish you well in all your rehab work and you a true champ for not gaining more weight in general, most end up over weight and not able to exercise. You are on a difficult journey and I wish you great success.

  • 47Jacqueline
    47Jacqueline Posts: 6,993 Member
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    If you're not cleared to lift weight, I wouldn't chance even body weight. It's a hard pill to swallow, but pushing yourself could result in permanent injuries.

    You might ask your doctor about working out in a pool - less stress on the joints, etc. Flotation weights are pretty rigorous once you build up some strength.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,344 Member
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    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Your best bet is to switch to ketogenic diet, so you can at least burn the fat.

    ^ This is advice worthy of ignoring.
  • heybales
    heybales Posts: 18,842 Member
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    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Yi5hedr3 wrote: »
    Your best bet is to switch to ketogenic diet, so you can at least burn the fat.

    ^ This is advice worthy of ignoring.

    Ditto again.

    Right now with your activity level - the vast majority of your energy source is fat already. Except for right after meals as insulin turns off fat release and you burn what you ate. Which isn't much right now.
    That would be the time to walk or be more active if possible.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
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    There is a limit to what can be accomplished when you can't lift. Bodyweight exercises are good, but progressing them involves very gymnastic moves that might not be possible for you. I tried doing high reps to compensate for low intensity, but that actually got me into new trouble with even more repetitive strain injuries (tendinopathy). 2-3x12-15 reps is fine, just don't go doing 3-4x20-30. Isolation exercises on the machines are a good idea, if you can do them (and are cleared for that.)

    Definitely do all and any exercise you can. You could see a PT once or twice to design a program, and go back in a month or so. (Pool exercises sound reasonable to me in the absence of that kind of advice, and I guess you could try resistance bands.)

    Other than increasing muscle mass, which is not likely, you can lose some absolute amount of fat and probably lower your bf% by losing weight - I have read that the ratio is 70% fat, 30% lean mass. That doesn't sound like it's ideal for you, though. Maintenance is probably the best option.

    I've got a number of chronic injuries that mean I am very limited in what I can do, so I understand how you feel, but I think you should be realistic about what's possible right now. A buff body like you'd see in fitspo stuff is probably not on the table. It is really hard to wrap your head around this, I know :/

    heybales wrote: »
    Muscle will get weaker if not used.

    But unless you are in a diet there need not be a concern of actually losing it, as in muscle mass.

    Eat at maintenance. You still will lose muscle size and strength, and likely make up for it with fat, but it isn't that extreme if you are using it in the least.

    And keep protein up, I recall seeing a study or two that showed no loss of muscle mass even in a slight diet when protein was high enough.

    That's heartening to know :)
  • JewelLeValley
    JewelLeValley Posts: 9 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the responses. After getting over the shock of the giant number facing me I had a moment of clarity this weekend. I was sitting on top of a mountain 10miles into a 20 mile hike and I realized preop I never would have made it here. My back would have been in severe spasms and I would have been lying down on the trail a few miles back, crying in pain and popping pain meds and muscle relaxers just to make it back to the car. So whatever the number really is it's ok because as soon as I'm cleared I am going to go so much further than I ever could preop.


    I had no idea you could gain 3 ins. in height through surgery, almost sounds tempting NOT. >:)

    Haha It was a nice side effect. I have attached my xrays if you want to see what that looks like.8z1iih2ap4dn.png
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  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
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    Wow,I'm guessing that upper curve was the reason for the surgery (as in you weren't standing like that for the x-ray).
    But that is a lot of metalwork.

    But those are some great results! I hope for you that you get cleared soon.
  • JewelLeValley
    JewelLeValley Posts: 9 Member
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    AsISmile wrote: »
    Wow,I'm guessing that upper curve was the reason for the surgery (as in you weren't standing like that for the x-ray).
    But that is a lot of metalwork.

    But those are some great results! I hope for you that you get cleared soon.

    Yep I'm actually pushing down against a railing to straighten my back as much as possible in the first one.
  • AsISmile
    AsISmile Posts: 1,004 Member
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    AsISmile wrote: »
    Wow,I'm guessing that upper curve was the reason for the surgery (as in you weren't standing like that for the x-ray).
    But that is a lot of metalwork.

    But those are some great results! I hope for you that you get cleared soon.

    Yep I'm actually pushing down against a railing to straighten my back as much as possible in the first one.

    The metal must be a real improvement then. All the best to you for your recovery.
  • tomatoey
    tomatoey Posts: 5,459 Member
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    Thanks everyone for the responses. After getting over the shock of the giant number facing me I had a moment of clarity this weekend. I was sitting on top of a mountain 10miles into a 20 mile hike and I realized preop I never would have made it here. My back would have been in severe spasms and I would have been lying down on the trail a few miles back, crying in pain and popping pain meds and muscle relaxers just to make it back to the car. So whatever the number really is it's ok because as soon as I'm cleared I am going to go so much further than I ever could preop

    That is awesome :)

    Congrats on a successful surgery, and best of luck in your rehab and healing :)
  • RaspberryTickleChicken
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    Isometric holds to start then once your core is more solid move to body weight strength training.

    If you look at my photo, that muscle definition is solely from body weight strength training.

    Best of luck to you.