Please help me understand weight loss and nutrition

For the last month I have tried exercising more and didn't eat as much junk as usual. I would typically go out to eat at least 3-4 times a week, but now I'm down to 1. I've kept a close eye on my intake and never really went over my calories. I have 1300 calories a day, I am 5'3 and now 187 pounds. I started at about 191-192.


Can anyone help me with meal ideas? Or snack ideas? I just feel so lost with this even though it should be common sense.
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  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    So over the past month, you've lost about 4-5 pounds? It sounds like you're doing just fine. You can eat anything you like within your calorie goal, just less of it. A lot of weight loss is trial and error, but you'll soon figure out which foods keep you full, which don't. Poke around on Pinterest or the recipe section here for low-calorie options that sound good to you.
  • Orphia
    Orphia Posts: 7,097 Member
    maidentl wrote: »
    So over the past month, you've lost about 4-5 pounds? It sounds like you're doing just fine. You can eat anything you like within your calorie goal, just less of it. A lot of weight loss is trial and error, but you'll soon figure out which foods keep you full, which don't. Poke around on Pinterest or the recipe section here for low-calorie options that sound good to you.

    True that!
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!
  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
    edited October 2015
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    So ideas for eating at home? Hubby and I rotate through "Italian", "meat-and-potatoes", "Chinese", "Mexican". I keep a variety of meats in the freezer (hamburger, chicken breast, pork chops) as well as beans and get different veggies in season fresh.

    I have a George foreman and a slow cooker.

    The carb might be pasta, rice or potatoes.

    I mix and match. Sometimes I will use Pinterest or Google listing the ingredients and see what comes up. I bookmark successful recipes.

    Lunch is often leftovers from the night before.

    Breakfasts are cereal (cooked or dry) yogurt or egg based.

    Portable snacks include crackers and cheese, a fruit, cucumber or celery sticks, or a protein bar.
  • jennifer_417
    jennifer_417 Posts: 12,344 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    +1
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    I know you all want to belive that but I know what I'm saying. Processed food is bad. I tried both ways, a deficit in calories where I ate pretty much what i wanted to cover those calories and another one where I carefully cooked all my meals and reduced my sugar intake. The results were beyond comparison. You maybe say that because even if you eat processed food you probably don't gain that much fat (alotough I don't know that) Each of us burn calories at different rates and that is because of our lifestyle and our metabolism, which works different for each of us.

    What I said above about reducing the sugar intake to 6 tsp/day was actualy what is recommended by the The American Heart Association.( And in my opinion I think it should be less)

    As for Intermittent fasting, it's just something I tell people to try, it's really awesome once you get used to it.

    Again, just my personal opinion. Don't get mad at me :smiley:
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    So ideas for eating at home? Hubby and I rotate through "Italian", "meat-and-potatoes", "Chinese", "Mexican". I keep a variety of meats in the freezer (hamburger, chicken breast, pork chops) as well as beans and get different veggies in season fresh.

    I have a George foreman and a slow cooker.

    The carb might be pasta, rice or potatoes.

    I mix and match. Sometimes I will use Pinterest or Google listing the ingredients and see what comes up. I bookmark successful recipes.

    Lunch is often leftovers from the night before.

    Breakfasts are cereal (cooked or dry) yogurt or egg based.

    Portable snacks include crackers and cheese, a fruit, cucumber or celery sticks, or a protein bar.

    Really love the way you eat! Good job! :smiley:
  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?
  • c613477
    c613477 Posts: 296 Member
    edited October 2015
    Skinnytaste website has a lot of great recipes that are high in flavor and fit my calorie count for dinner. Especially if I like having a snack or dessert after dinner. I usually pair them with a salad or veggies, but there are suggestions there too. Check it out!
  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
    edited October 2015
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    I know you all want to belive that but I know what I'm saying. Processed food is bad. I tried both ways, a deficit in calories where I ate pretty much what i wanted to cover those calories and another one where I carefully cooked all my meals and reduced my sugar intake. The results were beyond comparison. You maybe say that because even if you eat processed food you probably don't gain that much fat (alotough I don't know that) Each of us burn calories at different rates and that is because of our lifestyle and our metabolism, which works different for each of us.

    What I said above about reducing the sugar intake to 6 tsp/day was actualy what is recommended by the The American Heart Association.( And in my opinion I think it should be less)

    As for Intermittent fasting, it's just something I tell people to try, it's really awesome once you get used to it.

    Again, just my personal opinion. Don't get mad at me :smiley:

    I gained fat on eating processed foods, I also lost fat eating processed foods, because at first I was eating more calories than I burnt and then I started eating less calories than I burnt. Yes, we all burn calories at a different rate, so you have to work out the amount of calories that works best for you. Unless you have a medical condition, it doesn't matter what those calories are made up of.

    But if you're going to say that you should cut out processed foods, then you should define what you mean by processed foods. Is it foods with preservatives? Artificial flavourings? Anything with more than one ingredient that you buy ready made? Anything that isn't in its natural state that you've bought that way? Does it matter who does the processing?
  • MarcyKirkton
    MarcyKirkton Posts: 507 Member
    It took some time for me to adjust, too. One thing that I found was that I really needed to eat more protein. It kept me feeling more satisfied for longer. I also found that I needed to add a lot more vegetables than usual. The bulk really helped when that 4 ozs of whatever looked mighty small on my plate.

    Snacks.....I tried some of those protein bar things. I personally cannot eat them. They are just yucky to me. I'd rather go without a snack. I use apples, celery and salsa is one of my faves, unsweetened applesauce is another, and those 100 calorie popcorns from Jiffypop are good. I had to toss out a few diet items I gave a whirl.....lots of it is just inedible to me.

    I found that I do best with a set breakfast.....for me it's yogurt and half cup of cereal. I also have about 5 lunches I rotate around. That leaves only dinner to fuss over and figure out if it'll be good. Eating out is hard for me. I don't get many calories, so it's hard to find anything on the menu that actually is going to be OK. Usually, I have to skimp on other meals so I have enough left to eat out.

    If I'm super-hungry, a can of tuna and some fruit works. You'll find plenty of recipes online for slimming down regular meals. It's kind of fun to try new recipes. The snacks, I agree, are not so easy. And if I can, I just skip them.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    For the last month I have tried exercising more and didn't eat as much junk as usual. I would typically go out to eat at least 3-4 times a week, but now I'm down to 1. I've kept a close eye on my intake and never really went over my calories. I have 1300 calories a day, I am 5'3 and now 187 pounds. I started at about 191-192.

    So you've lost a pound or more a week for the past month? That's great! What are your weight loss goals set to? With only 23 pounds to lose this should be no more than 1 pound per week and consider reducing it to 0.5 #/wk.

    At this point, you don't have enough left to lose for 2 #/wk to be a good idea.
    Can anyone help me with meal ideas? Or snack ideas? I just feel so lost with this even though it should be common sense.
    I mostly eat the same, but less of it overall, and more of foods that fill me up, like protein and veggies.

    For example, I just stopped having bread, butter, and wine with a pasta meal, as I couldn't afford the calories (without being hungry earlier in the day.) I have 4 ounces of pasta, 3-4 ounces of meat (lower end for sausages; higher end for chicken), and a big helping of veggies.

    Since I learned that protein fills me up way better than carbs, I make sure that non-meat meals include plenty of protein in relationship to carbs.
  • Mrsmiller0422
    Mrsmiller0422 Posts: 16 Member
    For the last month I have tried exercising more and didn't eat as much junk as usual. I would typically go out to eat at least 3-4 times a week, but now I'm down to 1. I've kept a close eye on my intake and never really went over my calories. I have 1300 calories a day, I am 5'3 and now 187 pounds. I started at about 191-192.


    Can anyone help me with meal ideas? Or snack ideas? I just feel so lost with this even though it should be common sense.

  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    It's only common sense once you're used to it!

    Watch your log, see what foods are really high in calories and which are low and adjust your diet as necessary.

    Eat more fruits and veggies. They're generally low-cal, have lots of vitamins and minerals and give you fiber. So very, very healthy! Make them in lots of ways until you find some that you love. :)
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    I know you all want to belive that but I know what I'm saying. Processed food is bad. I tried both ways, a deficit in calories where I ate pretty much what i wanted to cover those calories and another one where I carefully cooked all my meals and reduced my sugar intake. The results were beyond comparison. You maybe say that because even if you eat processed food you probably don't gain that much fat (alotough I don't know that) Each of us burn calories at different rates and that is because of our lifestyle and our metabolism, which works different for each of us.

    What I said above about reducing the sugar intake to 6 tsp/day was actualy what is recommended by the The American Heart Association.( And in my opinion I think it should be less)

    As for Intermittent fasting, it's just something I tell people to try, it's really awesome once you get used to it.

    Again, just my personal opinion. Don't get mad at me :smiley:

    I gained fat on eating processed foods, I also lost fat eating processed foods, because at first I was eating more calories than I burnt and then I started eating less calories than I burnt. Yes, we all burn calories at a different rate, so you have to work out the amount of calories that works best for you. Unless you have a medical condition, it doesn't matter what those calories are made up of.

    But if you're going to say that you should cut out processed foods, then you should define what you mean by processed foods. Is it foods with preservatives? Artificial flavourings? Anything with more than one ingredient that you buy ready made? Anything that isn't in its natural state that you've bought that way? Does it matter who does the processing?

    @DemoraFairy Ok, so first of all, I did not say that you will not loose weight while in a calorie deficit and eating processed food. You will loose weight, slower and messier - so to say - if you ask me. Since the fitness revolution in the mid 90's the main rule was that if you eat less and you exercise more YOU WILL loose weight. And they were right, in a way. But I will disagree with you, you don't need to have a medical condition to matter what the calories are made of. I read a lot on this subject and to summarize i learned that "a calorie is not a calorie". You can't compare 1 avocado with 1 'any sugary bar you want'. You just can't. They may have the same amount of calories but if you talk about the micro/macronutrients in those 2, they are miles away different. The impact they have on the body it's different, mainly because of the absorption time. But this is a very complicate subject that I don't fully understand it yet so let's move on.

    Now, what i mean by processed food, for me is pretty much everything with all those mentioned by you above. But let's face it, who can make that big of a change? It's expensive, it takes a lot of your time and you will give up after a while. But you can avoid some foods. For example:
    Frozen Dinners - they are "great": vegetables, some chicken, entree, all in one plate; but most of them are loaded with sugar, fat and sodium, all bad for you.
    Any instant food - same thing, loaded with fats and if you ask me too many carbs that can be spitted in 2 other healthy meals that will keep you satisfied for longer.
    Flavored Nuts - Lots and lots of sugars and fats. Buy the RAW ones, I mean c'mon, they're great.
    Ketchup - The most unbeliveable creation to make bad food worth eating as a friend of mine would say; but the tomatoes in ketchup are so diluted by sugar and salt that it's simply not good for you.
    White Bread - There are plenty of other options and it's not that hard to cut it out of your diet.
    Sugary Cereals - You can make an amazing breakfast with some oats, fruits, some dark chocolate, vanilla sticks etc. You don't need all those processed cereals in the supermarket.
    Low fat products - With theese I just recommend reading the nutritional label becasue they are often loaded with sugar and that 5% fat you cut out it's for nothing if you eat 10g of sugar at once.
    Sweets - Here we can apply that "moderation' concept. You can't just don't eat sweets anymore, you gotta enjoy life. But less is better. Make it an ocasion not a habit. And you can always pop in some dark chocolate when you really crave some sweets.

    I really have a lot of stuff I would recommend, but I can't just write novels here.
    Have any other questions or you know, maybe some advice, I'm not perfect, contact me.

    Eat healthy, good luck!
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!
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  • DemoraFairy
    DemoraFairy Posts: 1,806 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    I know you all want to belive that but I know what I'm saying. Processed food is bad. I tried both ways, a deficit in calories where I ate pretty much what i wanted to cover those calories and another one where I carefully cooked all my meals and reduced my sugar intake. The results were beyond comparison. You maybe say that because even if you eat processed food you probably don't gain that much fat (alotough I don't know that) Each of us burn calories at different rates and that is because of our lifestyle and our metabolism, which works different for each of us.

    What I said above about reducing the sugar intake to 6 tsp/day was actualy what is recommended by the The American Heart Association.( And in my opinion I think it should be less)

    As for Intermittent fasting, it's just something I tell people to try, it's really awesome once you get used to it.

    Again, just my personal opinion. Don't get mad at me :smiley:

    I gained fat on eating processed foods, I also lost fat eating processed foods, because at first I was eating more calories than I burnt and then I started eating less calories than I burnt. Yes, we all burn calories at a different rate, so you have to work out the amount of calories that works best for you. Unless you have a medical condition, it doesn't matter what those calories are made up of.

    But if you're going to say that you should cut out processed foods, then you should define what you mean by processed foods. Is it foods with preservatives? Artificial flavourings? Anything with more than one ingredient that you buy ready made? Anything that isn't in its natural state that you've bought that way? Does it matter who does the processing?

    @DemoraFairy Ok, so first of all, I did not say that you will not loose weight while in a calorie deficit and eating processed food. You will loose weight, slower and messier - so to say - if you ask me. Since the fitness revolution in the mid 90's the main rule was that if you eat less and you exercise more YOU WILL loose weight. And they were right, in a way. But I will disagree with you, you don't need to have a medical condition to matter what the calories are made of. I read a lot on this subject and to summarize i learned that "a calorie is not a calorie". You can't compare 1 avocado with 1 'any sugary bar you want'. You just can't. They may have the same amount of calories but if you talk about the micro/macronutrients in those 2, they are miles away different. The impact they have on the body it's different, mainly because of the absorption time. But this is a very complicate subject that I don't fully understand it yet so let's move on.

    Now, what i mean by processed food, for me is pretty much everything with all those mentioned by you above. But let's face it, who can make that big of a change? It's expensive, it takes a lot of your time and you will give up after a while. But you can avoid some foods. For example:
    Frozen Dinners - they are "great": vegetables, some chicken, entree, all in one plate; but most of them are loaded with sugar, fat and sodium, all bad for you.
    Any instant food - same thing, loaded with fats and if you ask me too many carbs that can be spitted in 2 other healthy meals that will keep you satisfied for longer.
    Flavored Nuts - Lots and lots of sugars and fats. Buy the RAW ones, I mean c'mon, they're great.
    Ketchup - The most unbeliveable creation to make bad food worth eating as a friend of mine would say; but the tomatoes in ketchup are so diluted by sugar and salt that it's simply not good for you.
    White Bread - There are plenty of other options and it's not that hard to cut it out of your diet.
    Sugary Cereals - You can make an amazing breakfast with some oats, fruits, some dark chocolate, vanilla sticks etc. You don't need all those processed cereals in the supermarket.
    Low fat products - With theese I just recommend reading the nutritional label becasue they are often loaded with sugar and that 5% fat you cut out it's for nothing if you eat 10g of sugar at once.
    Sweets - Here we can apply that "moderation' concept. You can't just don't eat sweets anymore, you gotta enjoy life. But less is better. Make it an ocasion not a habit. And you can always pop in some dark chocolate when you really crave some sweets.

    I really have a lot of stuff I would recommend, but I can't just write novels here.
    Have any other questions or you know, maybe some advice, I'm not perfect, contact me.

    Eat healthy, good luck!

    @BogdanMih Everything I've read supports that calories are what matters. What those calories are made up of affect other things, such as satiety, energy, health, etc. but in terms of simple weight loss, it's just calories. So I will agree that an avocado and a sugar bar a different impact, but not an impact on how many calories your body burns.

    "Now, what i mean by processed food, for me is pretty much everything with all those mentioned by you above." I assume you don't mean everything I said, since that would cut out pretty much everything in the supermarket. You couldn't ever buy meat, because it's been changed from its natural state. You'd have to farm your own. You'd basically have to be a farmer to live by that rule. Pedanticness aside, I still don't quite agree with the things you've listed. I mean, for example, I used to have a microwave meal quite often which was chicken, potatos and vegetables, which was 277 calories. You try splitting that into 2 more filling meals!
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    You say you don't agree with 'everything in moderation', then in both posts you recommend eating everything in moderation. 'You can't just don't eat sweets anymore, you gotta enjoy life. But less is better. Make it an ocasion not a habit', 'some cheats now and then are fine', those are basically the definition of everything in moderation. And that's what people here advise, and what I'm advising. I'm not saying to eat only junk food all the time (though I am saying that would still make you lose weight), my point was you don't need to cut anything out.

    Though I have to laugh at the whole 'chemicals you can’t pronounce' thing. I've never seen it argued seriously, I always thought it was a parody of the clean eating argument, because the argument just makes no sense whatsoever. I mean, firstly, if you're actually going to take it seriously, just learn to pronounce the names. Secondly:

    ingredients-of-all-natural-blueberries-poster.jpeg
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    I can pronounce all of the chemicals. Even if I've never seen the word before, I can pronounce it. I might not hit the right accented syllable, but I probably would.

    Your ability or inability to pronounce a word should not be the determinator of whether you eat it. We can all pronounce "gasoline," but that doesn't make it okay to swallow. We cannot all pronounce "phytochemical", but those would be great things to ingest.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    Dont eat everything you want, a calorie deficit is not enough as long as you're still eating proccesed food. Here's my advice: Start eating good home cooked meals rich in protein as well as fats and carbs. Reduce sugar intake to almost none or at least 5-6 tspoons/day. Eat fruits. And one personal advice that I recommend when one wants to loose weight fast: use intermittent fasting. Google it, research it and apply it. Youre gonna feel great and you are gonna loose weight, trust me! Oh, and keep the calorie deficit, that is important too. Good luck!

    ...No. You don't need to cut out processed food, or reduce sugar. And you don't need intermittent fasting (I know you didn't say you need it, just saying). You just need a calorie deficit. You can still lose weight perfectly easily eating those things you've said to cut out.

    +1

    + 2

    eat in a calorie deficit, and hit macros and micros.

    simple….
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    So if I have some goldfish crackers that fit into my macro/micro/calorie goals for the day, what makes it a "cheat"? Also, what's your beef with fat? It's kind of important, you know.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    so you don't eat blueberries because high in sugar content?

    can you pronounce all the ingredients in an apple?

    what is wrong with fat?
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    edited October 2015
    ndj1979 wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    so you don't eat blueberries because high in sugar content?

    can you pronounce all the ingredients in an apple?

    what is wrong with fat?

    Oh my god. Fruits are ok, people. I was not referring to fruits, i mean C'mon. The sugar in a fruit has a lot of fiber that makes the absorption time longer. Sugar from fruits is different.
    You all took what i said like word for word. First of all, I said chemicals and I was talking about bad ingredients, mostly in processed foods. It was an expresion, like if you dont know what it is, look it up, but its probably bad. Im not even gonna answer the Apple question..

    And I did not say something is wrong with fats. Fats are good for you, in a decent amount. But there are a lot of fat types, you have saturated fat, monosaturated, polysaturated, some are good, some are bad.

  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    edited October 2015
    @DemoraFairy Ok, let's take it step by step.

    I said that yes, loosing weight is simple: you figure out your RMB, then your TEE and you substract some calories and voila you have your calorie deficit.

    The impact on how many calories the body burns it's actualy very different, and I'm gonna explain why. OK so here it's all about the metabolization of macronutrients (carbs, fats, protein) Each of there macros need energy to be metabolized.
    • Fats : 2-3% energy
    • Carbs: 6-8% energy
    • Proteins: 25-30% energy

    If we follow this model it's pretty clear that protein need a lot more energy to be metabolized than fats and carbs. So for example if you eat say like 100 calories from protein, the body will only absorb 75 calories, but if you eat 100 calories of fats, the body will absorb 98 calories. So if you go for a run and burn those 100 calories, they will burn more quickly if most of them were protein and not fats because you'll only have to burn 75, not 98. This also a fact of why protein help raise the metabolism and burn more fat stored on the body, ergo loose weight more quickly.

    I'm not disagreeing with you, your ways will get you there, only a lot slower.

    Now, about the processed food, I only said that those ingredients mentioned by you are in fact bad. You're right, you can't just make a change that big. You would really have to be a farmer.

    About the frozen dinners, "most of them" are bad, not all of them. Avoid the ones with dressing because those are the ones with sugars, sodium etc.

    "Eating in moderation" Yes, i was kinda discrepant there but I was saying about my way of eating in moderation where you choose days when you cheat and have a little treat. Not eating on a daily basis everything in moderation. And what i said above proves that eating bad food only makes it difficult to loose weight. (altough you still loose it, only at a slower rate)

    Everyone shouted at me about that phrase "chemicals you can’t pronounce'. Of course there are a lot of chemicals that are probably there for a reason. I'm only talking about super processed food, like your frozen dinners for example. Not fruits, It feels like you're mocking me.

    Fruits are fine, as i responded earlier, the sugar in fruits doesn't count because of the fiber. It's basicaly a whole different type of sugar. And all those ingredients in my supermarket are not even listed. Don't go mental and check the nutritional label on fruits, that's insane :)).

    I don't know, I think my way is that you have to eat healthy, your ways are that you just need to loose weight.



  • jgnatca
    jgnatca Posts: 14,464 Member
    Are you sure about the energy consumption for the various macros, @BogdanMih ? From my long association with T2 diabetes, I found that fats are metabolised the slowest. I wouldn't call it efficient. Fats are compact; I'll give them that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid_metabolism

    Salt isn't bad. I don't have "cheat days". I do not feel bad when I snack on goldfish crackers. From a shot glass. In my world, all food is lovely and contributes to health and vitality.
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Are you sure about the energy consumption for the various macros, @BogdanMih ? From my long association with T2 diabetes, I found that fats are metabolised the slowest. I wouldn't call it efficient. Fats are compact; I'll give them that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid_metabolism

    Salt isn't bad. I don't have "cheat days". I do not feel bad when I snack on goldfish crackers. From a shot glass. In my world, all food is lovely and contributes to health and vitality.

    Well yeah, fats are absorbed slower (and here we talk about the fats in nuts, olives) but they take not that much energy to be metabolized. They are 2 different things.

    Everyone has their ways, I promote a lifestyle that most people don't like because it takes away everything they love and I think it's why everyone is against me right now :)). Anyway, as long as you feel great, who am I to tell you different

  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    Are you sure about the energy consumption for the various macros, @BogdanMih ? From my long association with T2 diabetes, I found that fats are metabolised the slowest. I wouldn't call it efficient. Fats are compact; I'll give them that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatty_acid_metabolism

    Salt isn't bad. I don't have "cheat days". I do not feel bad when I snack on goldfish crackers. From a shot glass. In my world, all food is lovely and contributes to health and vitality.

    Well yeah, fats are absorbed slower (and here we talk about the fats in nuts, olives) but they take not that much energy to be metabolized. They are 2 different things.

    Everyone has their ways, I promote a lifestyle that most people don't like because it takes away everything they love and I think it's why everyone is against me right now :)). Anyway, as long as you feel great, who am I to tell you different

    I think people are questioning what you're writing because it seems pretty arbitrary.
  • BogdanMih
    BogdanMih Posts: 20 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    BogdanMih wrote: »
    jgnatca wrote: »
    @BogdanMih I also have goldfish crackers in my cupboard. Everything in moderation, eh?

    I'm not a fan of the ''everything in moderation'' concept that most people use. When you eat mostly home cooked meals like you do for example, some cheats now and then are fine. I have my own ''everything in moderation'' concept where I advise people to enjoy those cheats in moderation, and use their common sense. Check the nutrition labels to avoid anything high in fats, sugars, and chemicals you can’t pronounce. If it has high contents of fats or sugars and you still want to eat it make sure you really "pay'' for that one. (ha ha, I'm joking).
    Anyway, keep up the good work!

    I can pronounce all of the chemicals. Even if I've never seen the word before, I can pronounce it. I might not hit the right accented syllable, but I probably would.

    Your ability or inability to pronounce a word should not be the determinator of whether you eat it. We can all pronounce "gasoline," but that doesn't make it okay to swallow. We cannot all pronounce "phytochemical", but those would be great things to ingest.

    This really wasn't my point. That's a great example you just made there but it's really not on the point. "chemicals you can’t pronounce" I used it as an expression, don't take it literally.