Priobiotics

Emberrise wrote: »

Thanks Angel, I'll look into it. And it is, I was watching a documentary and these two twins ate fried pizza, pop, fried eggs (I'm going off by memory here) but it had to be a 2,500 calorie meal easily everyday for lunch for years yet they never gained a pound and remained skinny. They found that the twins held higher amounts of gut bacteria that could play a role into why they remained at a thin weight and despite putting their body through that amount of calorie intake.

What documentary are you referring to?

CoffeeNCardio wrote: »

Emberrise wrote: »

Thanks Kimmy . Vital information. Also that's what I meant by nutrition yada yada. My mother had an issue she went on a starvation diet and remained at a healthy weight for 3 years, but had to eat 500 calories a day so no... that is not true in all cases. There are other factors for obesity other than diet, such as thyroid, POCS, insulin resistance etc.

Is your mother 3 feet tall? Cause there's no way she was actually eating 500 calories a day and maintaining. There are medical conditions which can affect the CALORIES OUT portion of CICO, but none exists that effect it to the extent of 500 calories a day. My 32lb 37 inch tall 2 year old requires more than 500 calories a day.

I was actually kinda thinking that starvation diet screwed up her mother's metabolism so she *had* to eat 500 to maintain or else she'd gain.

Also, OP, if you have a lot to lose, you should probably try logging your food and exercise and eat at a deficit before looking for magic supplements.

Seriously, I'm taking 3 kinds of probiotics right now and my weight loss is sucking.

Emberrise wrote: »

I have examples but I don't want to post them.... cuz I've already wasted enough energy and attention on something that is common knowledge. If you are actually wanting them, then they are easily accessible by your handy dandy Google that is one click away.

Please post you're examples as it is not common knowledge - would love to see the people that defy physics. I'm not going to google because the onus of proof is on you to substantiate your statements.

A calorie is a unit of measurement, like an inch or a liter. Calories measure energy. I recommend you google the Laws of Thermodynamics - it may help you better understand why people weigh what they do.

You are saying you are one of them. If you are one of those people in your profile pic, then have you actually sat down and figured out you daily calorie expenditure? Are you weighing all your food on a food scale with exception of liquids, but still measuring those? Do you weigh your prepackaged food as frequently the package weigh is not entirely accurate. Do you log EVERYTHING you consume? If not, try it out. If you exercise and record it into MFP, MFP has a tendency to over-estimate burn so try eating back only 50% of the exercise calories, not all of them.

I agree that gut flora plays a vital role in good health, but it is not an end all in weight loss. You're not going to be able to just take a probiotic and magically lose weight.

The gut microflora is a very important part of our digestion. However, the probiotics on the market now are all very similar and contain mostly Lactic Acid Bacteria, the same bacteria can be found in fermented foods such as yogurt, kimchi, etc. The real hurdle to them making an impact on you health is that your normal flora is very resistant to change unless you do something dramatic (harsh antibiotics, radiation, etc.) So in order to keep a probiotic in your system you need to keep taking it. If you want some really interesting reading you should look into fecal transplants for patients who suffered C. difficile infection and treatment, just fascinating stuff.

soapsandropes wrote: »

The gut microflora is a very important part of our digestion. However, the probiotics on the market now are all very similar and contain mostly Lactic Acid Bacteria, the same bacteria can be found in fermented foods such as yogurt, kimchi, etc. The real hurdle to them making an impact on you health is that your normal flora is very resistant to change unless you do something dramatic (harsh antibiotics, radiation, etc.) So in order to keep a probiotic in your system you need to keep taking it. If you want some really interesting reading you should look into fecal transplants for patients who suffered C. difficile infection and treatment, just fascinating stuff.

I've had C. diff.

Not. Fascinating.

Please provide a link , my weight loss has stalled and I'm desperate.

I take a probiotic to help with my IBS issues, but I haven't seen more or less weight loss than I was before I started taking it. I also didn't start taking it to lose weight. It does help my digestion though!