My Plan - Good or Bad? Please let me know!
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UPDATE After 29 days (My 4 week progress):
Started at:
104.0kg
27.2 BMI
28.1% Fat
33.4% Muscle
Now:
100.1kg - 3.9kg Lost
25.8 BMI - 1.4 Loss
23.7% Fat - 4.4% Loss
36.3% Muscle - 2.9% Gain
I'm on target! Some drastic changes and results by Xmas!
How are you measuring your fat loss and muscle gain? What did you end up eating as far as your calorie level? Are you still exercising 2x a day and thinking you burn 1000 cals in those two sessions?0 -
If you don't hit your weight loss target by Christmas, what other markers will you use for success? For instance what weights can you lift by then?
If you miss one day, how will you re-orient yourself to success?0 -
WinoGelato wrote: »How are you measuring your fat loss and muscle gain?
I'll hazard a guess that the answer will be some kind of BIA scale/device.0 -
I think the issue will be in April. Keeping this off when you go back to normal will be the challenge. What you are doing right now is not sustainable in the long term.0
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Let me get this straight,
you're eating 1800 calories, but burning 1000 calories, leaving you with a total of 800 calories a day?
That doesn't seem like a lot to me, if 1000 calories is actually what you're burning.
Assuming your BMR is 2500 calories, you're in deficit of 1700 calories a day, you would be losing a pound of fat every 2 days.
I'm not saying it isn't possible, but be careful as you are effectively going to be losing a lot of muscle tissue as well.0 -
I'm no expert but I'm currently 5,11 & 200 pounds. I do Monday Tuesday Thursday Friday Saturday at the gym. 4 days a week I get trained in boxing which is fairly tough which burns 500 calories. I eat 1400 a day which is a large deficit but it's working for me. You plan might work but I feel the 2 times a day burning that many calories is a lot considering your 6ft 5. I go twice a day one in the morning to do weights then once at 2 pm for boxing. Your plan could work but maybe consult a Personal trainer just to get the best out of it. Don't forget to get regular sports massage if your working out that heavily. I'm trying to get down to 180 pounds btw.0
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UPDATE After 29 days (My 4 week progress):
Started at:
104.0kg
27.2 BMI
28.1% Fat
33.4% Muscle
Now:
100.1kg - 3.9kg Lost
25.8 BMI - 1.4 Loss
23.7% Fat - 4.4% Loss
36.3% Muscle - 2.9% Gain
I'm on target! Some drastic changes and results by Xmas!
2.9% Muscle gain! And here I am, training my butt off, eating in a surplus, dealing with the mental struggles of gaining fat back after a year of weight loss---and I could have gained 2.9% muscle in a month by eating at an aggressive calorie deficit! FML!0 -
arditarose wrote: »UPDATE After 29 days (My 4 week progress):
Started at:
104.0kg
27.2 BMI
28.1% Fat
33.4% Muscle
Now:
100.1kg - 3.9kg Lost
25.8 BMI - 1.4 Loss
23.7% Fat - 4.4% Loss
36.3% Muscle - 2.9% Gain
I'm on target! Some drastic changes and results by Xmas!
2.9% Muscle gain! And here I am, training my butt off, eating in a surplus, dealing with the mental struggles of gaining fat back after a year of weight loss---and I could have gained 2.9% muscle in a month by eating at an aggressive calorie deficit! FML!
Starve yourself to get yoked! Who knew?!?0 -
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UPDATE After 29 days (My 4 week progress):
Started at:
104.0kg
27.2 BMI
28.1% Fat
33.4% Muscle
Now:
100.1kg - 3.9kg Lost
25.8 BMI - 1.4 Loss
23.7% Fat - 4.4% Loss
36.3% Muscle - 2.9% Gain
I'm on target! Some drastic changes and results by Xmas!
You didn't gain muscle with that deficit. In fact, it's a sure bet you've lost muscle mass.
Where are you getting those readings from?0 -
Hey guys,
Ok so here is what I've been mainly eating give or take a few slight tweaks:
Breakfast;
2 whole eggs fried with yolk
1 rasher bacon
Bowl of oats, milk and half an apple
A white tea
Lunch;
Some sort of weight loss meal that sits around 350-400cal
A handful of nuts
Dinner
Protein; 200g steak or salmon
Cup of rice
Gym session after dinner
Burn around 500cal
After gym; non carb choc protein shake with 250ml full cream milk
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And my readings come from an expensive Omron scale so I'm trusting this is accurate.0
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A scale is not a good method of measuring your bodyfat percentage. There is no way you gained muscle while losing fat, especially with such an aggressive deficit.0
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Lol at some of the posts on here...
OP, your problem is not math, or MFP, or even logic for that matter. Your problem is biochemistry and thermodynamics. You can NOT lose that much *fat* that quick.
You think you're burning 1000cal per day at the gym doing what sound like casual gym sessions? Sure maybe for a day or two. Cortisol will catch up, make lipolysis impossible, increase water retention and basically a lot of things that aren't going to get you what you want. But I think enough people have said that already..
DXA scan, hydrostatic testing, or at the very least a caliper are the only good measures of body composition. These electro-impedance devices or scales are a scam... sorry bud
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Good job not losing insanely quickly! It's still too fast to do for very long, imho, but 2lbs a week through Christmas doesn't sound too crazy. Try to make sure you net at least 1800 (for guys). That's usually the minimum net I see unless under a doctor's orders.
It's so much harder to put the muscle back on compared to keeping as much of it as possible in the first place. The bigger the deficit, the more muscle loss comes with it.0 -
I thought I would update this thread more than a year later. I actually went from 103kg down to 96.5 at the lowest. All i really consumed was that juice, oatbran, milk and a bunch of water.
After this crash diet I obviously went on a binge eating spree as by mind and body couldn't handle it. I put all the weight back on plus more.
I went from 103kg to 110+ which was crazy...A lot of poor choices of food like pizza takeaway every night etc.
Go forward to 6 weeks ago, Jan 1st 2017 I was 109.2kg and this time I learnt from my mistakes and done a whole lot of research into proper intakes, how the body works and what macros i should be aiming for coupled together with a much better understanding of hybrid strength/body building gym routines with daily focusses on certain muscle groups.
Week 6 and my weight is at 101.6 but my strength has gone up tenfold together with much more muscle definition in my chest, traps, legs and arms. I have definitely learnt from my mistakes and am eating a healthy nutritional diet with roughly a 500cal daily deficit. Carbs 15%, Protein 55%, Fats 30%.
I do 1hr cardio on an empty stomach each and every morning no matter what I feel like and I'm staying motivated!
I do 1 hr strength training and compound excercises at night after dinner.
Total 13 gym sessions each week with 1 'recovery day' where I only take a brisk walk on the morning and no gym at night.
This has been working tremendously so far and I am seing some truly excellent results.
Moral of this update and story is: Crash dieting is for idiots and weight loss/fitness is a journey which can't be rushed eventhough we all want to see immediate results.
Leave me your comments please
Thanks!!3 -
well i'm glad you are eating a healthy, sustainable diet now.
Sorry, you had to learn in such a rough way.0 -
Why are you doing your cardio fasted?0
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Just a few thoughts!
You are aiming for a GOOD deficit (500 Cal should be 10% to 20% of your actual TDEE, hence good).
Your carbs are relatively low. This may or may not be sustainable for you long term. I personally know many people who did keto for a period of time and then gave up similarly to your experience with the hypephagia that followed your extreme restriction. It was only on MFP that I've heard of people who are successful for 3+ years (which is the first level of what I would consider long term).
ALL YOU NEED to lose weight is the deficit you chose. I would focus more in making that a sustainable deficit, one that I can keep to by making satiating and smart choices when it comes to the food I eat.
You need 0.8g to 1g per lb of bodyweight in the normal weight range. By the time you are hitting 180+g of protein, you may or may not be helping your lean mass.
Carbs are anabolic not catabolic, especially in combination with protein.
Alan Aragon has done a peer reviewed study showing no additional benefit from fasted cardio.
With only a small daily deficit you would benefit tremendously from using a trending weight web site or app to monitor your weight fluctuation/decrease over time.
Your general concept of small deficits, adequate cardio, weights, and rest is real good!2 -
i've never seen those macros before... usually low carb is accompanied with high fat? i bet you don't poop much!0
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TavistockToad wrote: »i've never seen those macros before... usually low carb is accompanied with high fat? i bet you don't poop much!
I do poop regularly once per day.0 -
RuNaRoUnDaFiEld wrote: »Why are you doing your cardio fasted?
Some studies show the body's way of entering into ketosis and burning fat rather than carbs with morning cardio on an empty stomache.
I have the energy and motivation to do it and now and again I might eat a banana before hand if I'm aiming for more of a high level hit workout.
I just do steady state cardio; treadmill and 4/3 intervals or sometimes rowing machine. I keep my heart rate at the ideal fat burning rate which is around 118 - 133 bpm for me.1 -
Just a few thoughts!
You are aiming for a GOOD deficit (500 Cal should be 10% to 20% of your actual TDEE, hence good).
Your carbs are relatively low. This may or may not be sustainable for you long term. I personally know many people who did keto for a period of time and then gave up similarly to your experience with the hypephagia that followed your extreme restriction. It was only on MFP that I've heard of people who are successful for 3+ years (which is the first level of what I would consider long term).
ALL YOU NEED to lose weight is the deficit you chose. I would focus more in making that a sustainable deficit, one that I can keep to by making satiating and smart choices when it comes to the food I eat.
You need 0.8g to 1g per lb of bodyweight in the normal weight range. By the time you are hitting 180+g of protein, you may or may not be helping your lean mass.
Carbs are anabolic not catabolic, especially in combination with protein.
Alan Aragon has done a peer reviewed study showing no additional benefit from fasted cardio.
With only a small daily deficit you would benefit tremendously from using a trending weight web site or app to monitor your weight fluctuation/decrease over time.
Your general concept of small deficits, adequate cardio, weights, and rest is real good!
Thanks PAV!
I usually get in around 150-180g protein.
Carbs; I get your point here. Depending on the day I usually consume 80-90g on average.
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