Carbs and Fat
Karstey050
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How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
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Were you told to eat low fat/ low carb?0
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Why eat low carb and low fat?
Unless you have been medically advised to cut carbs & fat for a medical condition, there is absolutely no need to cut carbs and/or fat.
Fat is really great at keeping you feeling full and is needed for some essential metabolic processes.
Carbs are a good energy source and are super tasty.
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Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.0
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If you reduce or increase one macro percentage, the other macros adjust accordingly. My carbs are low, so my fat and protein are high. So, you can't do low carb and low fat...unless you wanted to eat that much protein, but it's expensive and I don't think it's healthy to do that.
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Good question. After you log for a week or two, you analyze and then decide which foods to reduce. You can eat the exact same foods that you were eating before you started trying to lose weight as long as you eat less of them.
Eat the carbs you like. Eat the protein. Eat fats because they are important.0 -
ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)0 -
Lean meats, beans and legumes, veggies, veggies, veggies, oatmeal, eggs, lowfat yogurt and kefir, moderate portions of hard cheeses such as parmesan (lost of flavor in smaller portions), fish. . . Those are some go -tos0
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lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »If you reduce or increase one macro percentage, the other macros adjust accordingly. My carbs are low, so my fat and protein are high. So, you can't do low carb and low fat...unless you wanted to eat that much protein, but it's expensive and I don't think it's healthy to do that.
That's my dilemma! Not only that, I have to avoid salt, too.0 -
ksteyskal_1 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.
lol I'm laughing, but I know, it's not funny! Seriously though. I eat 40-50%fat, and no hindrance to weight loss. It tastes nice, and keeps me full. And fiber of course.0 -
What exactly did the doctor tell you? What does the dr think counts as starch? Bread? What counts as sugar? Fruit?ksteyskal_1 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.
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ksteyskal_1 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.
Why did he tell you this? Is this for a medical condition?0 -
Have you used the unrefined salts like himilayan or RealSalt? They are actually more flavorful. I've read they are better for you too.ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »If you reduce or increase one macro percentage, the other macros adjust accordingly. My carbs are low, so my fat and protein are high. So, you can't do low carb and low fat...unless you wanted to eat that much protein, but it's expensive and I don't think it's healthy to do that.
That's my dilemma! Not only that, I have to avoid salt, too.0 -
ps...most doctors are not nutritionist. Unless you have a medical issue dont avoid any macro-nutrient0
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Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.0 -
Your doc is an idiot. Seek a second opinion.0
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Reduce salt by adding some home cooked meals. Our bodies need a certain amount of fat and oils.0
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savageman69 wrote: »ps...most doctors are not nutritionist. Unless you have a medical issue dont avoid any macro-nutrient
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ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.
As savage said, most doctors are not really trained in nutrition. I would consider looking for a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist) to work with.
The main thing is that you eat at a healthy deficit for weight loss (Healthy in regards to how large the deficit is, not the foods).0 -
Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.
lol I'm laughing, but I know, it's not funny! Seriously though. I eat 40-50%fat, and no hindrance to weight loss. It tastes nice, and keeps me full. And fiber of course.
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Well, she recommended theLovee_Dove7 wrote: »
Have you used the unrefined salts like himilayan or RealSalt? They are actually more flavorful. I've read they are better for you too.ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Lovee_Dove7 wrote: »If you reduce or increase one macro percentage, the other macros adjust accordingly. My carbs are low, so my fat and protein are high. So, you can't do low carb and low fat...unless you wanted to eat that much protein, but it's expensive and I don't think it's healthy to do that.
That's my dilemma! Not only that, I have to avoid salt, too.
I switched to Mrs Dash and I like it. I used to use RealSalt.0 -
PikaKnight wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.
As savage said, most doctors are not really trained in nutrition. I would consider looking for a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist) to work with.
The main thing is that you eat at a healthy deficit for weight loss (Healthy in regards to how large the deficit is, not the foods).
I think I will just use the proportions that MFP recommends and see how my blood pressure and cholesterol improve.0 -
ksteyskal_1 wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.
As savage said, most doctors are not really trained in nutrition. I would consider looking for a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist) to work with.
The main thing is that you eat at a healthy deficit for weight loss (Healthy in regards to how large the deficit is, not the foods).
I think I will just use the proportions that MFP recommends and see how my blood pressure and cholesterol improve.
A little walking helps too.0 -
ksteyskal_1 wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.
As savage said, most doctors are not really trained in nutrition. I would consider looking for a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist) to work with.
The main thing is that you eat at a healthy deficit for weight loss (Healthy in regards to how large the deficit is, not the foods).
I think I will just use the proportions that MFP recommends and see how my blood pressure and cholesterol improve.
You are on the right track.
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Thanks, everyone! I will focus on the balanced MFP proportions of nutrients and not worry about going to such an extreme!0
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ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Thanks, everyone! I will focus on the balanced MFP proportions of nutrients and not worry about going to such an extreme!
It sounds like a good plan, and think about it this way, if you're eating at a deficit and meeting your macros, you will automatically be cutting some carbs, some fat, and pretty much some of everything
Be sure to use a food scale.0 -
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ksteyskal_1 wrote: »PikaKnight wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »Do you have medical condition that requires you to eat low carb and low fat? If not and you think this is necessary for weight loss, its not. Eating less calories than your body uses is needed to lose weight. Doesnt matter if the calories come from carbs, fat or protein.
I need to lose weight and lower my blood pressure. Also, my cholesterol is a little high. My doctor told me to avoid starches, fat, and salt.
As savage said, most doctors are not really trained in nutrition. I would consider looking for a registered dietitian (not a nutritionist) to work with.
The main thing is that you eat at a healthy deficit for weight loss (Healthy in regards to how large the deficit is, not the foods).
I think I will just use the proportions that MFP recommends and see how my blood pressure and cholesterol improve.
One thing you might consider for blood pressure is cardio. I don't like long cardio sessions so I do HIIT, but it's improved my blood pressure from about 138/90 to 128/70 between the HIIT and the weight loss in general.0 -
rosebarnalice wrote: »Lean meats, beans and legumes, veggies, veggies, veggies, oatmeal, eggs, lowfat yogurt and kefir, moderate portions of hard cheeses such as parmesan (lost of flavor in smaller portions), fish. . . Those are some go -tos
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ksteyskal_1 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »ksteyskal_1 wrote: »How on earth can I eat both low carb AND low fat, when proteins have a fair amount of fat? What's left to eat?
Not all proteins have a fair amount of fat, but if you eat low fat and low carb all you have left is protein, and eating super high protein isn't recommended. Why are you trying to eat low carb and low fat? Knowing your reasoning and objectives might help.
(I don't eat low carb or low fat -- I do a balanced approach of 40-50% carbs, 30% fat, and 20-30% protein, depending on my overall calories. But as long as I get my minimum protein and a generally healthy diet I don't actually sweat carbs vs. fat on a particular day.)
My doctor told me to avoid starches and sugars and fat! But I can't do that because then I can't even have the recommended servings of whole grains and fruits. I just can't live on non-starchy veggies and lean meats.
I would ask for a referral to a dietician, then. You are likely to get much more helpful diet advice. Also, many times doctors assume their patients won't be compliant and so overstate things -- avoid may mean reduce. For that reason too I'd ask follow ups (like what should I aim for? what should I eat? why? health issue or just your personal ideas about weight loss?) or go with the referral, as I suggested.
Non starchy veg and lean meats are a great thing to base your diet around, but I agree you can't just eat that. That's my go-to when reducing and I end up with 900 calories and boring meals -- MFP caused me to realize I could be a lot more varied this time.0
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