Waist training

Kaylee6349
Kaylee6349 Posts: 18 Member
edited November 27 in Health and Weight Loss
I was looking into waist training to aid with weight loss and found lots of mixed reviews. Have any of yours tried it and what did you think?
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  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
    Never heard of waist training
  • ilovemycoffee19
    ilovemycoffee19 Posts: 21 Member
    I didn't try so I can't tell, but only working out and proper nutrition will be more than enough for anything!
  • ultrahoon
    ultrahoon Posts: 467 Member
    yarwell wrote: »
    Never heard of waist training

    It's wearing a corset / tightlacing.

    Basically the only way it does stuff for weight loss that's close to being verified (that I can find) is that it makes you a bit hotter, causing you to sweat more.
  • ongoingwhy
    ongoingwhy Posts: 30 Member
    I think they're just a gimmicky tool that doesn't work.
  • Bonny132
    Bonny132 Posts: 3,617 Member
    Spot training does not work, it will only help to remove more liquid from your body.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    Hundreds of abdominal specific exercises are far less effective

    Wearing a "waist trainer" may reduce the amount you can eat by compressing your internal organs and making it uncomfortable ..I suppose if you wear it long enough it's a way to achieve a calorie defecit. They may also cause you to lose water weight but drink or eat something and that's gone

    Spanx or similar can give you shape for an occasion

    Proper corsetting...custom made to size whale boned corsets getting smaller and tighter over years and worn consistently can over time warp the natural body
  • JennB629
    JennB629 Posts: 54 Member
    I wear a waist trainer only while excersising.
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
    Don't they squish your insides all up? Wouldn't that be .... kind of bad?
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    JennB629 wrote: »
    I wear a waist trainer only while excersising.

    Which unfortunately could be worse than pointless as it may impact on your core engagement and so the benefit of the exercise
  • MelaniaTrump
    MelaniaTrump Posts: 2,694 Member
    Yes, it squeezes your inside organs. Can even impair getting enough oxygen to the lungs (vital function for health). You were kidding, right?
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    Only a calorie deficit can aid in weight loss. A waist trainer (AKA corset) is not a calorie deficit. So... there's your answer.

    IMO, I think they look stupid.
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    This doesn't look attractive... at all. Not to mention the controversy surrounding them about organ damage/squishing/etc.
  • Kaylee6349
    Kaylee6349 Posts: 18 Member
    Thanks for all the advice, I'm definitely not going to get one now!
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited December 2015
    Thanks for all the advice, I'm definitely not going to get one now!

    Yay another one rejects the dark side ;)
  • Kaylee6349
    Kaylee6349 Posts: 18 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?



  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited December 2015
    Corsets in general can be fun to play around with for things like cosplay, dressing up. etc. They DO squish your insides so they should not be worn on a regular basis. After wearing one, most show a very temporary reduction in waist measurement because everything was squished. This goes away as soon as your insides and skin relax back to their normal position (can take a couple of hours). Exercising in them is counter-productive, you can actually weaken your core muscles because the muscles are being supported by an external device, rather than actually having to work.
  • JennB629
    JennB629 Posts: 54 Member
    I don't wear one like those girls. Mines mostly for back support. My lower back is shot & have nerve damage from having spinals. Nothing tight or squishing organs!
  • I like corsets and waist cinchers for the bedroom or as occasional shapewear but not for weight loss. Ladies back in the day would also end up with a specific shape after years that would not be considered desirable now. They would have small waists but also soft, pooched out lower bellies with weak muscles.
  • beemerphile1
    beemerphile1 Posts: 1,710 Member
    edited December 2015
    At best waist training has no long term benefit.

    At worst, waist training can cause long term harm to your internal organs.

    In summary, there is virtually no benefit to waist training and a large risk of harm. It is only practiced by vain, stupid people.
  • JoshGouvisis
    JoshGouvisis Posts: 98 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
  • zoeysasha37
    zoeysasha37 Posts: 7,088 Member
    Its a gimmick. Don't even bother
  • DaddieCat
    DaddieCat Posts: 3,643 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.

    This really makes no sense and has no science behind it. Why 4 sets? Front squats are a quad dominant exercise, they will help with core to a good extent, but not specifically or really help "trim"... whatever that really means. This might work for you, but won't for everyone.



    OP. You can't spot reduce fat. It will come off where it's genetically predisposed to do so. To lower fat in one area, you have to lower fat in all areas.

    As far as firming up the muscles underneath, you can do that with any kind of exercise that targets that area. This will not reduce fat in that area specifically, but will strengthen the muscles allowing what is there to be firmer and more eye appealing as you lower your overall body fat.

    You can check out Strong Curves by Bret Contreras. He's a trainer well known for helping women achieve the curvy shape they desire through effective lifting methods. http://www.amazon.com/Strong-Curves-Womans-Building-Better/dp/1936608642

    Give that a look and see if it'll help.

    You can also go to Bodybuilding.com and search through their exercise programs until you find one that you like. Just stay away from the forums or shops... the forums are generally full on nonsense and the shops are a money sink for no reason... but the workouts are great.
  • juggernaut1974
    juggernaut1974 Posts: 6,212 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.

    Oddly specific advice is...well...odd

  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    edited December 2015
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.

    Ummm....errrrr.... What the? :bigsmile:

    I'm going to to leave the oddly specific front squat advice ...because ...what?

    However the "moderate weight for you" line ...really holding my snark back on that one

    :bigsmile:
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    JennB629 wrote: »
    I wear a waist trainer only while excersising.
    You'll sweat more, but it doesn't reduce fat.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?


    Definition comes from lower body fat %. Realize that genetics plays a lot into this and when some try to lose overall body fat, "desired" areas that hold body fat in higher percentages reduce too (breast, butts on females).

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.
    WUT?

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    edited December 2015
    You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
    I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.

    Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...

    Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.
    Math is your friend here. If you're 185 and even 20% body fat (148lbs lean mass), to RETAIN your lean mass through a cut (not likely even with PED's) and be 10%, your weight would end up being 164lbs. If you're trying to be 175-185lbs and 10%, you'd need a lean mass of 166lbs which means you'd have to GAIN muscle. And on a deficit, it's unlikely to gain about 20lbs of lean muscle in less than a year.
    Not broscience here, just actual physiology and math.

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  • JoshGouvisis
    JoshGouvisis Posts: 98 Member
    ninerbuff wrote: »
    You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
    I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.

    Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...

    Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.
    Math is your friend here. If you're 185 and even 20% body fat (148lbs lean mass), to RETAIN your lean mass through a cut (not likely even with PED's) and be 10%, your weight would end up being 164lbs. If you're trying to be 175-185lbs and 10%, you'd need a lean mass of 166lbs which means you'd have to GAIN muscle. And on a deficit, it's unlikely to gain about 20lbs of lean muscle in less than a year.
    Not broscience here, just actual physiology and math.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

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    That's just my goal. I understand i will come up short. Gaining is no problem. Thanks for the heads up.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    edited December 2015
    You want proof, watch for my results. My deadline is March,2016. Im going to post all photos of my entire process.
    I just started on 12/21. Im 185, and guessing around 20-22% body fat at the moment. Goal weight is between 175-185 at 10% or less. I haven't been measured to know exactly what im at now. Lets see how I pan out.

    Logical advice you say? Advice is providing guidance or recommendations. Practice what you preach...

    Rewind the tape, you quoted me and ran your mouth.

    You're guessing at your body fat %? How are you going to know what progress was actually made if you aren't going to get accurate with your measurements? Especially seeing as you have a body fat% goal.
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
    nutmegoreo wrote: »
    Progressive overload focusing on compound lifts such as squats, deadlifts, overhead press etc engage the core and many other muscles in order to give tighter, tauter muscles and a more shapely physique as long as your body fat is low enough

    I dance and I lift (not that heavy) weights. Any advice on how to get a more defined waist and hips it seems to be my problem area?




    No sure if you do front squats, but added to your leg day your waist line tends to trim out best. Usually 4 sets is best. Moderate weight for you. Nutrition will always be key, with mild cardio from time to time. I never go past 30 mins cardio, and use resistance at lvl 12. Usually keeping pace on an elliptical between 45-50.

    Oddly specific advice is...well...odd

    Says the guy in his workplace bathroom taking a selfie with a pink phone!! LOL!! Dude are you serious haha

    Get outta here George Burns

    That's Mr. Burns to you sonny.

    I'm sorry, @juggernaut1974, here's where my mind went:

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    Yeah...but look how lean and fit he is.

    Clearly he front squats exactly 4 sets and ellipticals on level 12

    I don't have an elliptical. Clearly doomed to be fat forever :frowning:

    OP, I'm glad you have maintained an open mind and have decided against this. Calorie deficit to drop any fat. Exercise for body shape. You can do this without any fads.
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