Natural Remedies for health

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,139 Member
    Caitwn wrote: »
    www.Mercola.com

    This website is very useful & interesting for anybody who supports natural remedies - Dr.Mercola is a qualified & experienced nutritionist

    Mercola is one of the biggest fear-mongers, quacks, and snake-oil salesmen to plague the internet.

    Your beliefs about what did or didn't happen with your mother's illness are your business, and if you want to jump up and down on a trampoline because you think it clears your lymph nodes, that's also your business. But your telling someone how to treat their asthma or chronic depression is just plain wrong. The recommendations you're posting about depression and asthma are irresponsible and dangerous. Trying to sidestep what you're doing here by saying "take it slowly and talk to a doctor" don't make it any better.

    I'm disappointed that MFP has allowed this thread to continue to this point. I just don't know what these boards even represent any more.

    cosign

    @psulemon how is this thread allowed to continue on and on???
  • mbaker566
    mbaker566 Posts: 11,233 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    for sure :)
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.
  • blankiefinder
    blankiefinder Posts: 3,599 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??
  • dewd2
    dewd2 Posts: 2,449 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??

    This times 1000

    If you wish to prove Darwin's theory on yourself, I guess there's not much anyone can do to stop you. But if you come to a public forum and attempt to influence others with potentially deadly advice, I have a real issue. There are people around here gullible enough to believe this nonsense. And in this case it is more than just a waste of money. Your advice could actually kill someone.
  • GemFromJannah
    GemFromJannah Posts: 58 Member
    At what point did I say not to consult a doctor? At what point did I say not to take medication? I didn't!! I said, to supplement medication with good nutritional natural remedies, under the supervision of a doctor and if your condition gets better, consider asking the doctor to reduce your medication! I said foods contain nutrients which either aid or destroy the body and eating certain foods can help certain conditions and there is absolutely nothing wrong with this advice!

    I studied nursing, a whole unit on nutrition! What do you people think nutrition means? It doesn't mean calories!! It means nutrition aka the nutrients in food that nourish the body. Does that not automatically tell you that foods contain properties that are good or bad for the body??

    Do you not get advised by you GP to have lemon & honey when you have a cold? Do they not tell you to take multivitamins to keep your body healthy? Do they not inform you to cut your salt to a decent level because too much is harmful? Are you not warned against too much saturated fat? Any one of you go to your doctor and ask them if certain foods have vitamins & minerals known to treat medical conditions & they will agree! Iron is needed for anaemia, it comes from red meat mainly and is absorbed easier if accompanied by vitamin C, this helps cases like aneamia and also asthma due to aneamia preventing oxygen in the blood. My go advised me to eat red meat with vitamin C - how is this whacky to you? My GP advised me to have honey & lemon when I had s bad cold. They will tell you to put eucalyptus menthol on a child with a cough & stuffy nose. Omega fats from oily fish aid the brain. Food has vitamins & minerals that we need to keep healthy, when we are deficient in this we will get health problems & to keep healthy we need to ensure we eat the right foods to prevent being deficient. When we get sick l, often we are deficient in some sort of vitamin or mineral. And hence why doctors will prescribe vitamin & mineral supplements, but if we are the foods that contained these qualities we can prevent being deficient & suffering illness due to the deficiency.

    Honestly I'm stumped as to what you believe nutrition is? Lol. It's knowing the nutrients in food that nourish the body and keep it healthy. It's understanding malnourished bodies get sick and to treat the sickness you need to focus on nourishment to remove the deficiency.

    The reason why this thread isn't closed is because I make perfect logical sense! If I suggested never seeing a doctor or never taking medication, I can understand the negative responses. But I haven't done that. I've merely said supplement your medical treatment with good nutrition by eating foods that contain vitamins & minerals known for aiding sickness, under the watchful eye and advice of your doctor.

    And I stand by what I said firmly! P.S please note this is the section for food & nutrition! I'm talking about correct nutrition to aid sickness. This category was created for a reason by MFP - for people to discuss nutrition, which is what I've done; probably why the thread isn't closed.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    edited December 2015
    Just want to be clear. I have said multiple times that people should go to doctors for serious issues. And should take medicine when it's needed.

    There are just also a lot of people saying you must go for some tiny little gas pain in your tummy. And I am just saying also be careful with pharmaceuticals for Non-serious medical issues. They can injure and cause major harm in those circumstances. In no way am I advocating for someone not to treat a child's serious medical issue. I'm just saying also be careful with the overprescribing of meds. I wish I knew that. And I will absolutely educate my children about that. I don't have to. They saw their vibrant and healthy mother become disabled by a med that a dermatologist prescribed. It was not needed. Not explained. Hundreds of people injured by it. It doesn't heal. It harms. Please don't twist my words into something they aren't. And the only reason I was at the dermatologist was because I had also been overprescribed antibiotics which injured me. Meds are serious. And overprescribing has consequences.
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    edited December 2015
    If your child has asthma, cancer, something serious. Of course treat it correctly.

    If your child has a mild rash or a little tiny bit of eczema. Maybe reconsider before using a topical steroid and then after three uses watching your child suffer through topical steroid withdrawal for two years covered in raw, red skin.

    If you don't have a bacterial infection don't take a double antibiotic at double strength that causes a severe allergic reaction and worse. If the test comes back clear of bacteria, but the doctor gives it any way because they aren't sure because they don't have the proper diagnostic equipment and decide to try the antibiotic rather than refer to a specialist.
  • GemFromJannah
    GemFromJannah Posts: 58 Member
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    Thank you - yes my midwife told me to drink peppermint when pregnancy gave me heartburn and upset stomach, she also told me ginger for morning sickness. And my doctor advised me about spinach helping my iron levels. I'm currently being tested for low magnesium and was told to take supplements because my doctor suspects I'm deficient, will get results soon. I didn't know about evening primrose though, I only heard it helps skin problems. I'll give that a go!

  • dewd2
    dewd2 Posts: 2,449 Member
    Just want to be clear. I have said multiple times that people should go to doctors for serious issues. And should take medicine when it's needed.

    There are just also a lot of people saying you must go for some tiny little gas pain in your tummy. And I am just saying also be careful with pharmaceuticals for Non-serious medical issues. They can injure and cause major harm in those circumstances. In no way am I advocating for someone not to treat a child's serious medical issue. I'm just saying also be careful with the overprescribing of meds. I wish I knew that. And I will absolutely educate my children about that. I don't have to. They saw their vibrant and healthy mother become disabled by a med that a dermatologist prescribed. It was not needed. Not explained. Hundreds of people injured by it. It doesn't heal. It harms. Please don't twist my words into something they aren't. And the only reason I was at the dermatologist was because I had also been overprescribed antibiotics which injured me. Meds are serious. And overprescribing has consequences.

    To be clear, I agree with this as well. I despise most prescription medications and the doctors who push them. You will never see me take a statin for example (not currently a candidate but the 'rules' keep changing to encourage more sales so ya never know). But, I will never tell anyone to not take them either. I will simple point them to the research I found and let them decide.

    The difference is this is actual research not some quack selling foo.
  • snikkins
    snikkins Posts: 1,282 Member
    dewd2 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??

    This times 1000

    If you wish to prove Darwin's theory on yourself, I guess there's not much anyone can do to stop you. But if you come to a public forum and attempt to influence others with potentially deadly advice, I have a real issue. There are people around here gullible enough to believe this nonsense. And in this case it is more than just a waste of money. Your advice could actually kill someone.

    A family was diagnosed with non-smoking lung cancer too late. She had a friend who, like the OP's mother, managed to beat breast cancer with one round of treatment, I think it was, and then becoming raw vegan. Hooray for her and I'm happy she is in remission. However, another one of my family members is desperately holding on to this as a reason that my aunt died - she and her husband were just not trying hard enough to beat the cancer. She needs something to blame.

    For the record, between time of diagnosis and death was ~6 months because it was caught at stage 4. I don't have a lot of tolerance for the "food as medicine" people because of this. Want to use it as a complement? Go nuts... I don't even care if you've decided that's what actually cured your whatever instead of the treatment you received. But to try to pretend that diet will cure cancer and spread this type of misinformation? No. You're doing more damage than you realize.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    snikkins wrote: »
    dewd2 wrote: »
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??

    This times 1000

    If you wish to prove Darwin's theory on yourself, I guess there's not much anyone can do to stop you. But if you come to a public forum and attempt to influence others with potentially deadly advice, I have a real issue. There are people around here gullible enough to believe this nonsense. And in this case it is more than just a waste of money. Your advice could actually kill someone.

    A family was diagnosed with non-smoking lung cancer too late. She had a friend who, like the OP's mother, managed to beat breast cancer with one round of treatment, I think it was, and then becoming raw vegan. Hooray for her and I'm happy she is in remission. However, another one of my family members is desperately holding on to this as a reason that my aunt died - she and her husband were just not trying hard enough to beat the cancer. She needs something to blame.

    For the record, between time of diagnosis and death was ~6 months because it was caught at stage 4. I don't have a lot of tolerance for the "food as medicine" people because of this. Want to use it as a complement? Go nuts... I don't even care if you've decided that's what actually cured your whatever instead of the treatment you received. But to try to pretend that diet will cure cancer and spread this type of misinformation? No. You're doing more damage than you realize.

    QFT
  • snickerscharlie
    snickerscharlie Posts: 8,578 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??

    I think it's incredibly irresponsible of MFP to let this thread stand. I know they would be held harmless in the event of a lawsuit, (the opinions expressed here do not represent MFP, its employees, blah, blah, blah) but why isn't moral conscience coming into play, here? This thread should not exist.

    @Alex
  • BinaryPulsar
    BinaryPulsar Posts: 8,927 Member
    edited December 2015
    dewd2 wrote: »
    Just want to be clear. I have said multiple times that people should go to doctors for serious issues. And should take medicine when it's needed.

    There are just also a lot of people saying you must go for some tiny little gas pain in your tummy. And I am just saying also be careful with pharmaceuticals for Non-serious medical issues. They can injure and cause major harm in those circumstances. In no way am I advocating for someone not to treat a child's serious medical issue. I'm just saying also be careful with the overprescribing of meds. I wish I knew that. And I will absolutely educate my children about that. I don't have to. They saw their vibrant and healthy mother become disabled by a med that a dermatologist prescribed. It was not needed. Not explained. Hundreds of people injured by it. It doesn't heal. It harms. Please don't twist my words into something they aren't. And the only reason I was at the dermatologist was because I had also been overprescribed antibiotics which injured me. Meds are serious. And overprescribing has consequences.

    To be clear, I agree with this as well. I despise most prescription medications and the doctors who push them. You will never see me take a statin for example (not currently a candidate but the 'rules' keep changing to encourage more sales so ya never know). But, I will never tell anyone to not take them either. I will simple point them to the research I found and let them decide.

    The difference is this is actual research not some quack selling foo.

    Thank you for understanding what I was actually saying. I also think everyone should properly treat cancer. Although depending on the stage of cancer and the treatment available and quality of life that is a personal decision made between a patient, the doctors, and the family. I also think it's no good to just randomly ask what supplements are healthy for what. That's a decision to be made by going to doctors, reading research on your specific issue, talking among a support group of people that have the same (non-life threatening) health condition.

    Edit to add: food is not medicine for cancer. But, it can be for a food related disease. And it means food is the medicine of prevention for some diseases (not cancer).
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Caitwn wrote: »
    Mercola is one of the biggest fear-mongers, quacks, and snake-oil salesmen to plague the internet...

    +1000. MercoLOLa is 100% quack.

    One good article from sciencebasedmedicine.org (just one of many articles discussing what a woo peddler he is) - Nine Reasons to Completely Ignore Joseph Mercola.


    One of the first things they say is highly telling:
    Mercola.com is a horrible chimera of tabloid journalism, late-night infomercials, and amateur pre-scientific medicine, and is the primary web presence of Joseph Mercola. Unfortunately, it is also one of the more popular alternative medicine sites on the web and as such is uncommonly efficient at spreading misinformation. I am not a fan, and have addressed his dross in the past.

    lol I remember one time that someone quoted some mercola crap on facebook and it was supposed to be a health page and I proved that the stuff they were spouting was crap and that mercola was a quack. turns out its his wifes page and she was NOT happy LMAO
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    SLLRunner wrote: »
    moyer566 wrote: »
    I use tumeric for inflammation
    ginger and peppermint for my stomach
    mint for headaches and stuffy noses
    b complex helps with energy and mood
    catmint, chamomoile, valarian, st johns wort, hops help soothe and sometimes help improve mood
    cinnamon helps avoid spikes in blood sugar
    honey helps with sore throats
    magnesium can help with all sorts of things
    evening primrose helps with pms

    I try and eat things as whole foods like spinach for b vitamins and iron. or drink them like primrose or honey and cinnamon.
    this has helped me avoid some medications for an autoimmune issue that i have, ulcer medication, minimized pain medication, etc. My doctors are happy with using these as treatments

    while cico is important, what you eat can help improve your health

    All of those things you mention are good to do, but if the tummy ache or sore throat or headache persisted despite the natural remedies, it would be appropriate to go to the doctor. :)

    But, just be careful. Because if it's a non-serious issue you don't need to take a med that ends up destroying your health. Medicine is important for serious conditions in which it's needed. But prescribing meds for every tiny little issue (with misdiagnosis also a very real risk) can lead to much more harm. Meds are very serious. Doctors should not be over prescribing, but many do. Doctors should be providing informed consent, but many don't. I was healthy and my life and health was destroyed by incorrectly and over prescribing meds. I trusted the doctors. I thought they were experts in health and healing. I was wrong. And now I am severely injured in a way that doctors can do nothing about (except try to prescribe pain meds that will actually make things worse). I miss my life before doctors prescribed meds I didn't need.

    And an unqualified person such as the OP giving medical advice is also a very real risk. Asthma kills. To imply that someone should try to treat their asthma through food and slowly reduce their meds is terrible advice. Asthma doesn't just kill the sick and the weak. It kills healthy people in their prime, who's asthma is well controlled.

    Just because one person beat the odds and survived when they only had a 30% chance of survival, doesn't mean that everyone should go that route. She had basically a 1 in 3 chance of surviving. Russian roulette. Some will survive, but most won't.

    This post really upsets me. What if your bad advice leads to someone's death? Or their child's??

    I agree as well. and some supplements can aggravate asthma(been there done that). I would not advise anyone to go off asthma meds or supplement with other things that could cause an interaction with their meds,and to ask the dr to reduce meds as well can be dangerous. because with asthma for a lot of people you will have times where its like you dont have asthma at all and other times where you will have flare up after flare up.as for improving asthma for some exercise and losing weight alone can help the symptoms but you cant cure or get rid of asthma. you can be symptom free for years and not need meds,but years later down the road you can have an attack and die. no matter what meds I take or supplements I take my asthma hasnt improved because of those things. mine improved due to exercise and losing weight. yes I was able to get off some of the meds but only because of the weight loss and exercise. I still take a maintenance inhaler for my asthma because its severe without it and wouldnt dare to stop it for fear of a deathly attack(I have been close to death before and not going to risk it).

    most doctors will not tell you to take supplements for this and that because most doctors dont study those types of things in medical school,I have asked my drs if they study those things in medical school and they tell me most over the counter things are not something they study much in med school.my doctors have always told me to eat as healthy as I can and to get my exercise. they never told me take X,Y,or Z for this or that. and when sick they just tell me lots of fluids and rest.There are a lot of things out there to claim to help certain health issues but sometimes people have health issues that can only be helped with prescription meds.


    as for cancer. diet doesnt always help either. my sons best friend died from cancer over 5 years ago,he tried the diets(eating whole foods,non gmo,organic,etc foods) because he thought it would be better than the chemo or radiation and he went downhill a lot faster since he stopped the treatments. so those things will not work for everyone. I have a friend who just had a double mastectomy and she has to be on chemo pills(yes they have them) for the next 5 years and she is having all sorts of issues. shes doing pretty well and shes not on a special diet either.she is still here almost 2 years later and in remission but that could be due to the meds too.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    I don't take supplements I eat the actual food. Eg I chop up two cloves of garlic & drink them down with water or I drink turmeric milk (Google golden milk) I eat cinnamon on my porridge or fruit salad. So it's all safe. Or I cut out wheat so don't eat bread pasta etc

    I have noticed a positive difference to be honest. I haven't needed pain relief for my arthritis lately and my medication for asthma was reduced.

    My mum has really bad cancer and they said she needed chemotherapy and to remove her breast, but she refused! She changed her diet, only ate organic, cut out dairy, ate things like Spirulina etc and they operated to just remove the lump and she got better, when they had said she only had 30% survival rate.

    So I strongly believe there are properties in certain foods that aid the body & fight illness, just how certain foods damage the body & cause illness. It's not false, it's like saying a kiwi doesn't have vit C and doesn't fight infection. We know fruit has vit C eg lemon & vit C fights infection. Other foods has vitamins & minerals that help the body.

    Scientific studies have been done on wheat that proved it had a negative impact on mental health patients, because it causes a release of certain hormones, which activate the "addiction" type behaviour.

    All foods have properties in them that help the body or destroy it. My friends grandma was badly diabetic & couldn't have tomatoes but after a few weeks of cinnamon in her herbal tea she could have tomato.

    I'm not sure about pill-form supplements, I'm refering to the real food form

    Doubtful. Very, very doubtful.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I don't take supplements I eat the actual food. Eg I chop up two cloves of garlic & drink them down with water or I drink turmeric milk (Google golden milk) I eat cinnamon on my porridge or fruit salad. So it's all safe. Or I cut out wheat so don't eat bread pasta etc

    I have noticed a positive difference to be honest. I haven't needed pain relief for my arthritis lately and my medication for asthma was reduced.

    My mum has really bad cancer and they said she needed chemotherapy and to remove her breast, but she refused! She changed her diet, only ate organic, cut out dairy, ate things like Spirulina etc and they operated to just remove the lump and she got better, when they had said she only had 30% survival rate.

    So I strongly believe there are properties in certain foods that aid the body & fight illness, just how certain foods damage the body & cause illness. It's not false, it's like saying a kiwi doesn't have vit C and doesn't fight infection. We know fruit has vit C eg lemon & vit C fights infection. Other foods has vitamins & minerals that help the body.

    Scientific studies have been done on wheat that proved it had a negative impact on mental health patients, because it causes a release of certain hormones, which activate the "addiction" type behaviour.

    All foods have properties in them that help the body or destroy it. My friends grandma was badly diabetic & couldn't have tomatoes but after a few weeks of cinnamon in her herbal tea she could have tomato.

    I'm not sure about pill-form supplements, I'm refering to the real food form

    Doubtful. Very, very doubtful.

    Worked for Steve Jobs.

    Oh wait.
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