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Maybe Sugar IS the Devil - US Goverment Diet Recommendations
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That's what the clothing companies want you to think. You've been suckered TR. Sorry. A little bit (about tank top sized) of cotton is okay. Anything after that is just added cotton that is not needed.0
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And your desserts don't have sugar?
Sorry, late reply, just got back online.
Most have added sugar - I don't like overly sweet things so I usually cut the recipe's sugar by 1/4-1/2. Some don't (fruit w/ cream, roasted fruit). I doubt I eat more dessert than the 'average' American.
So, if more than half of sugar in the 'average' American diet typically comes from sugar-sweetened drinks, and I'm not drinking any - than my added sugar intake is at worst around half of the 'average' American's, putting me well below the guidelines.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
Absolutely false.
Ok what are the benefits of adding sugar to food?0 -
snowflake930 wrote: »
I love this! Thank you!
The media (I refuse to call most of them journalists) deserve a lot of criticism about a lot of things.
Maybe the media is the devil
Yep, no integrity in the media anymore. Hell, they can't even fix typos, neither the media writers nor editors.
It seems no matter what, just scare the people. Whether it be food, the 't' word, etc.
From what I understand, the government agencies are actually rather hesitant to actually demonize a particular food/food group to any extent... mainly because it doesn't want to hurt business. It's the media that puts the demonization 'spin' to it.0 -
Ok what are the benefits of adding sugar to food?
Deliciousness.0 -
Is added sugar necessary for nutrition or is it about taste? Do we have to have it? I want it because of taste. Do I need it?0
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Ok what are the benefits of adding sugar to food?
Energy. Calories (not EVERYONE is trying to lose weight). Taste. Carbs. Fuel for workouts.0 -
susan100df wrote: »Is added sugar necessary for nutrition or is it about taste? Do we have to have it? I want it because of taste. Do I need it?
That's all that matters. As long as you maintain control over your calorie intake and balance your macros, added sugar isn't a problem.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »
Deliciousness.
Healthy food can be delicous. Your taste buds are fried from all the junk. You can recover from this.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
Energy. Calories (not EVERYONE is trying to lose weight). Taste. Carbs. Fuel for workouts.
All this is available without added sugar. You are conditioned to be this way. I don't need a sugar high to hit a deadlift PR.0 -
Healthy food can be delicous. Your taste buds are fried from all the junk. You can recover from this.
Take a look at my diary and tell me which junk has fried my taste buds. I need help, man! I'm like, 3 snickers and a Coca-Cola from doing unspeakable things to a hobo behind the Shop&Go just because he promised me some packets of pure Domino. SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!0 -
Healthy food can be delicous. Your taste buds are fried from all the junk. You can recover from this.
They're not mutually exclusive. Or are you under the impression that if someone has, say, one item with added sugar, then that's all they eat?0 -
All this is available without added sugar. You are conditioned to be this way. I don't need a sugar high to hit a deadlift PR.
So, your contention is that the availablility of alternatives means that each individual alternative has zero benefits?0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
They're not mutually exclusive. Or are you under the impression that if someone has, say, one item with added sugar, then that's all they eat?
Well I mean you can get away with a lot of things but they are steps down a dark path. You don't want to find out you are stuck with the negative consequences of your choices. There is a point of no return with health obviously and you don't always see it coming.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
So, your contention is that the availablility of alternatives means that each individual alternative has zero benefits?
So, your contention is that that's not how logic works? You might be onto something there... I'd be able to think about it if I didn't have the DTs from my sugar withdrawal. It's been 48 hours since my last candy cane and I'm really jonesing.0 -
Well I mean you can get away with a lot of things but they are steps down a dark path. You don't want to find out you are stuck with the negative consequences of your choices. There is a point of no return with health obviously and you don't always see it coming.
The path to hell is paved with skittles...0 -
Well I mean you can get away with a lot of things but they are steps down a dark path. You don't want to find out you are stuck with the negative consequences of your choices. There is a point of no return with health obviously and you don't always see it coming.
Ahhh..the ol' slippery slope logical fallacy. Or did you just perhaps recently see the new Star Wars movie?0 -
susan100df wrote: »Is added sugar necessary for nutrition or is it about taste? Do we have to have it? I want it because of taste. Do I need it?
This could a question about possibly any food at all. It could be a question about cooking. Its certainly a question some people ask about meat, about fruit, or about carbs.
Do you need bread? Do you need beef? Do you need to cook your food? Do you need to flavor it with herbs, spices, or salt? No, you don't. You want it because of taste. But you CAN eat beef, bread, salt, flavorings, cooked food, and sugar and still have a diet that promotes a long and healthy life.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »
So, your contention is that that's not how logic works? You might be onto something there... I'd be able to think about it if I didn't have the DTs from my sugar withdrawal. It's been 48 hours since my last candy cane and I'm really jonesing.
Good gravy man. Eat some pixie sticks or a couple peeps STAT!0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
So, your contention is that the availablility of alternatives means that each individual alternative has zero benefits?
Adding sugar to food is not an alternative. It's a food industry strategy and it works big time. The cost? Well I'm sure they don' t lose any sleep after they get tired counting their millions of dollars. Who cares if people get sick and die? What's a limb or two here and there? Where do you draw the line?0 -
Well I mean you can get away with a lot of things but they are steps down a dark path. You don't want to find out you are stuck with the negative consequences of your choices. There is a point of no return with health obviously and you don't always see it coming.
Except there is zero evidence of a case where intake of added sugars singlehandedly caused disease without the correlation of a pre-existing condition, obesity or other mitigating factors.
There is also zero evidence that sugar is an addictive substance as you claim.
You claim so much but prove so little.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
Ahhh..the ol' slippery slope logical fallacy. Or did you just perhaps recently see the new Star Wars movie?
I did see it and it wasn't that bad.0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »
Take a look at my diary and tell me which junk has fried my taste buds. I need help, man! I'm like, 3 snickers and a Coca-Cola from doing unspeakable things to a hobo behind the Shop&Go just because he promised me some packets of pure Domino. SOMEONE HELP ME!!!!!
Obviously, it is the mints. We have them at work and once I introduce people to them they are hooked. They'll go through a warehouse club bag of them in days!!0 -
tincanonastring wrote: »
So, your contention is that that's not how logic works? You might be onto something there... I'd be able to think about it if I didn't have the DTs from my sugar withdrawal. It's been 48 hours since my last candy cane and I'm really jonesing.
Be strong, tincan.
Think of your children. You really want them to grow up with a shell of a father, wandering about with gummy bear residue and pixie stix dust in his beard?
Fight the urge, man!!!0 -
Do you have any credible evidence that shows sugar to be as harmful as you make it out to be?
Also, can you tell me what negative impacts I am having on my body since I consume added sugar?
LOL. I knew he'd bust out either Lustig or Taubes (both full-on tinfoil hat crackpots) as his response to this question. I knew it. Good thing that Kool-Aid comes in sugar-free flavors.
I always love the classic binary thinking exhibited by anti-sugar zealots - you're either 100% sugar-free, or your hopelessly addicted to it and shoveling it down your piehole by the bucketload. There can be no reasonable middle ground.0 -
Adding sugar to food is not an alternative. It's a food industry strategy and it works big time. The cost? Well I'm sure they don' t lose any sleep after they get tired counting their millions of dollars. Who cares if people get sick and die? What's a limb or two here and there? Where do you draw the line?
Yes, I'm sure the food industry's strategy is to kill or injure as many of their consumers as possible.
#WinningStrategy
But your post didn't answer the question I asked.0 -
Adding sugar to food is not an alternative. It's a food industry strategy and it works big time. The cost? Well I'm sure they don' t lose any sleep after they get tired counting their millions of dollars. Who cares if people get sick and die? What's a limb or two here and there? Where do you draw the line?
My grandmother made her cookies from scratch and used sugar, just like her mother and her mother's mother. Could you explain where they fit into the food industry's strategy and why I don't have any of those million's of dollars? Clearly my grandma was a nefarious sugar peddler.0 -
juggernaut1974 wrote: »
Ahhh..the ol' slippery slope logical fallacy. Or did you just perhaps recently see the new Star Wars movie?
No spoilers!!!!0
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