5,000 cals a day, high carb all raw all vegan diet? Freelee (the banana girl)

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  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
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    kgeyser wrote: »
    myssjaxson wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    myssjaxson wrote: »
    LOL @ those who think I'm supporting her. I'm sharing the crazy because I think its funny and also interesting considering so many people believe her claims even though scientifically it is impossible. I was looking to have a lightened chat/discussion on the insanity but I suppose not.

    I don't mind those accusing me of condoning her though I don't understand how as I blatantly explained I wasn't, but its cool. Lol.

    It's not that people think you said positive things about her, but that giving her any attention benefits her.

    Same as talking about starvation diets and fasts and unorthodox methods that come up a lot on here. I'm not writing her a check, I'm discussing the NEGATIVITY of her actions. I'm not trying to be all defensive, I'm simply frustrated with the "slap-the-puppy for playing" antics.

    What people mean is that when you mention her, people who read this and are not familiar with her could google her or watch some of her stuff. She makes her living off page hits and views, so even the people clicking to hate on her are putting money in her pocket.

    This should really end the thread.

    In the world of self made, internet celebrities pushing harmful ideas the only way to make them go away is to totally ignore them.
  • JenniDaisy
    JenniDaisy Posts: 526 Member
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    She believes woman get periods because their bodies are toxic. She is quite literally dumb as a bag of rocks.

    Also, I don't believe you should be going around saying the only thing you should put in your body is raw, organic fruit and veg when you've got tupperware titties.
  • BlessedMoon
    BlessedMoon Posts: 65 Member
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    Not that I believe this is the right way to go...but she's not the inventor of this diet. There are many others who have advocated the benefits of a high carb vegan diet way before she came into the limelight.
  • myssjaxson
    myssjaxson Posts: 89 Member
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    JenniDaisy wrote: »
    She believes woman get periods because their bodies are toxic. She is quite literally dumb as a bag of rocks.

    Also, I don't believe you should be going around saying the only thing you should put in your body is raw, organic fruit and veg when you've got tupperware titties.

    Really? Periods are toxic? LOL. Well then my endometriosis must make me Satan. Good thing when I get my IUD in a few weeks I'll be free of the demons.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,576 Member
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    Anyone who says we have to eat only raw foods to be healthy is ignoring human history.

    I am 51 yo and have never had any lasting or serious health problem and I have never eaten a banana in my life nor do I eat a lot of raw food. I do eat a lot of vegetables and a decent amount of fruit when it's in season (very little in Winter), but it's mostly cooked. So I am living proof that she's FOS.
  • healthy_hermione
    healthy_hermione Posts: 64 Member
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    Bananas are great. I have one usually every day or every other day. But 50??? Oh my god. The amount of sugar.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    edited January 2016
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    The Shambulance: Put Down the Bananas! There's No Such Thing as a Mono Meal

    http://inkfish.fieldofscience.com/2013/11/the-shambulance-put-down-bananas-theres.html



    While you're enjoying a full Thanksgiving plate this Thursday, you might take a moment to be thankful that your meal isn't a single melon with a spoon stuck in it. Or a stack of plain lettuce. People who eat "mono meals" insist that having only one type of raw fruit or vegetable per mealtime makes their digestive process more natural and virtuous. In reality, it just takes the fun out of salad.

    Not to be confused with the noodle soup eaten by college students who are sick with mono, a mono meal is something eaten by healthy people who can afford to buy a lot of produce every week. It's an especially orthodox version of the "high carb raw vegan" diet—or maybe it's a sect of the "80/10/10" diet (which dictates that 80 percent of one's calories should come from carbs, and 10 percent each from fat and protein).

    However the eating style evolved, Buzzfeed recently claimed mono meals are a "new diet trend." While it's hard to tell how many mono mealers are out there—they're hardly mainstream—it's true you can search Instagram, Pinterest or Twitter and find photographs of people's thirteen-tangerine breakfasts with a side of hashtags (#801010 #monomeal #fruit!).

    An especially zealous group of high-carb raw vegans populates a website called 30 Bananas a Day, although some of them choose to eat their fruits and veggies mixed together, rather than individually. (I spent some time on this site looking for answers about what motivates the mono diet, and instead found several surreal items: a claim that the flavor of raw okra is delicious; a suggestion to blend dates into "dateorade"; a GIF of someone's stomach bloating and un-bloating, mesmerizingly.)

    Other sites are more explicit about the point of mono-ing your meals. It's all about simplifying digestion, they say. "If too much activity is happening in the digestive tract," according to Carla Golden Wellness, "enzymes can cancel each other out causing food to rot...With so many different kinds of foods going in at one sitting, our body can get VERY tired trying to sort out the different enzymes and digestion times for all these various foods."

    When I sent these claims to Steven Swoap, a physiologist at Williams College, he was pretty efficient about tearing them down.

    "You can't have too much activity in the digestive tract," he says flatly. Our bodies use different enzymes to digest proteins, carbohydrates and fats, and "there is no canceling each other out." These processes have evolved to happen at the same time with no stress to our organs—not the stomach or intestine, where digestion occurs, and not the pancreas, which cranks out the enzymes. "The pancreas multi-tasks as well as the best of them," Swoap says.

    Mono meal advocates say it's healthier to make things easy on your digestive system by eating just one thing. "When only one food is eaten at a time at a meal, the process of digestion is made to be extremely efficient," says the website Nature's Pilgrim. "The body must only focus on breaking down and absorbing one particular compound."

    "Not only is this garbage, it can actually be critically wrong," Swoap counters. Eating a heap of bananas for dinner doesn't make digestion happen faster—and we wouldn't want it to. "Nutritionists agree that taking a longer time is much better for you," he says. Absorbing carbohydrates quickly causes a spike in blood sugar, followed by a spike in insulin. The more sharply a meal raises your blood sugar, the higher its "glycemic index" (GI), a score given by nutritionists.

    A plain baked potato, for instance, has a high GI because we can very easily break down its starches into sugars and absorb them. But there's a way to slow things down and avoid the blood sugar spike: add some fat or protein. A dollop of sour cream or butter slashes the GI of that baked potato.

    So a mono mealer's goal of mainlining carbs is actually a bad idea. Eating a lot of high-GI foods has been linked to diabetes and heart disease. Luckily, though, a pile of fruit doesn't fit the bill.

    "If you each just one naturally occurring food (like a banana or a green pepper or a cucumber)," Swoap says, "this is inherently a meal that is mixed—mixed with carbs, protein, and fats." Every living cell contains fats in its outer membrane and proteins that drive its activities. Additionally, something like an apple or banana has plenty of fiber that slows down your body's absorption of its sugars.

    That pile of kiwi fruits, then, won't make anybody's digestion quicker or cleaner than usual. And that's a good thing; your body is happier with slow-and-steady. (A meal that does have a high glycemic index? Juice.)

    If you enjoy cantaloupe or plain vegetables enough to eat them exclusively for your meal, it probably won't hurt you. If you really enjoy them, you might become like 30 Bananas a Day user Jared Six. "I have NEVER enjoyed the taste of food more than I do now after 6 months of eating this way," he gushes. "People look at me like there is something seriously wrong for me for being so happy eating something like a meal of just lettuce."

    Just make sure those 30 bananas a day don't turn into 36 bananas in one sitting, because that's enough to cause dangerously high potassium levels in your blood—something for which you won't feel thankful.
  • lyttlewon
    lyttlewon Posts: 1,118 Member
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    I have a family member like this, except for the 5k calorie thing. She has an autoimmune disease that she says is controlled with eating a raw diet. She juices a lot, and does fasts. She's a consultant for a wellness clinic helping people with autoimmune problems, cancer, etc. I think in a lot of ways she helps people with their medical problems, because they stop eating crap. She does take it too far. When my mom had a TIA a couple years ago she insisted I give my mom a kale smoothie to help avoid brain damage. I think that she's extreme, but at the same time people say she's helped them.

    This other lady you are talking about, I have no clue what to say about her.
  • johnnylakis
    johnnylakis Posts: 812 Member
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    yarwell wrote: »
    Opinions ? Nutter. See how she feels about it when she's in her 50s and diabetic.
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  • ashleybreanna13
    ashleybreanna13 Posts: 249 Member
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    AbsoluteLM wrote: »
    Hmmm, she definitely shouldn't be recommending this diet without the proper research, but it looks like she's from Australia and I don't know what the rules governing diets and diet products are over there.

    In any case, she's thin because all she does is eat fruit and ride her bike. Lol. It's like being washed up on a desert island and surviving only on coconuts and mangos. Sure, you'll be skinny, but you'll be running some serious nutrient deficits.

    This.
  • larochellenadia
    larochellenadia Posts: 2 Member
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    myssjaxson wrote: »
    JenniDaisy wrote: »
    She believes woman get periods because their bodies are toxic. She is quite literally dumb as a bag of rocks.

    Also, I don't believe you should be going around saying the only thing you should put in your body is raw, organic fruit and veg when you've got tupperware titties.

    Really? Periods are toxic? LOL. Well then my endometriosis must make me Satan. Good thing when I get my IUD in a few weeks I'll be free of the demons.

    Hello I just want to say that Vegan diet killed my endometriosis! ( I'm not raw vegan however! )
  • Guns_N_Buns
    Guns_N_Buns Posts: 1,899 Member
    edited May 2016
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    I think she does a lot of running so is prob burning a lot of calories but yes she is a nutter and anyone who gets sick trying to eat like her should sue.

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