Who eats over 1500 and manages to lose ?
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im 5'1 and 38 years old and eat 1500 and lose just fine.0
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CalorieCountChocula wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »MFP is the land of food braggers. Everyone is eating. I don't know how but they're doing it. I've been poking around the reddit loseit forums asking similar questions I ask here. How many calories guys my size eat, etc. The answers here seem high. Here you get guys swearing they lose weight eating 2500-3000 calories. Women eating more than me losing weight (I'm a 230lbs male and lose nothing at 1800 calories). There you get more honest answers. Guys saying they started out higher but when they hit walls they had to dip way down. Some eating 1500 calories a day. Whatever answer you hear take it with a hugggggge grain of salt. You're probably talking to people who either a) have mutant metabolisms or b) do more cardio than they really are admitting.
Not bitter much..............I mean, feel free to look at my diary and install CCTV in my kitchen. Why would I lie about what I eat!?
Well, people *never* lie on reddit. So we know there is lying going on here.
Meh, I dunno. I just noticed it wasn't as geared towards food bragging. It's a badge of honor here. It's very skewed and I think it paints a one sided picture. It was just interesting to hear a group of men my height who were my weight say honestly "yeah, I could eat more at first but then I had to go much much lower" basically. You never hear that here. "TDEE-20%. Never go below your BMR. Etc." I'm already eating below my BMR and the scale isn't moving.
Hell yeah it's a badge of honor! I like not starving myself in order to lose weight. I feel bad for the people I know who are existing on lettuce and still haven't lost half the weight I've lost!!!
So is there a logical explanation on why they're unable to lose weight eating like you?
Yes, there is. They probably eat way more when they're at home, they're inconsistent, they don't track their intake, they think eating salad and doing the elliptical for hours is enough, after doing the elliptical they decide to "treat" themselves to a snack because the elliptical said they burned 900 calories, but it's mostly they aren't accurately tracking HOW much they're eating.
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
EDIT: there are literally 6 things on my diary today so far, 2 of which are planned items I haven't even eaten LOL. It does not get any more paired down than that. I guess I could just start having 1 item meals twice a day to eliminate any possible room for error.
I have no idea why you're not losing, I've seen you vent this frustration before. Even if you are 75% accurate (and I use that word losely) with your intake you should be losing. Have you been to a Dr. to rule out any health issues?
All I know is once I started accurately tracking my intake (meaning using a food scale) and became consistent with my workout routine I have been steadily losing, on average, .5 lbs a week.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
Look back at your diary for the past month (since Jan 1). You've been over your goal quite a few times, and there are a few days in there where you obviously didn't log all you ate, especially within the past 2 weeks. Jan 15, Jan 16, Jan 17, Jan 18, Jan 20, Jan 22, Jan 26. All these days you either didn't log accurately (or at all) or you were over. That seems like a huge roadblock to weightloss to me. Nobody is getting on you about not weighing a prepackaged yogurt. Not logging on a weekend, though, implies you weren't watching anything you were eating.
15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »MFP is the land of food braggers. Everyone is eating. I don't know how but they're doing it. I've been poking around the reddit loseit forums asking similar questions I ask here. How many calories guys my size eat, etc. The answers here seem high. Here you get guys swearing they lose weight eating 2500-3000 calories. Women eating more than me losing weight (I'm a 230lbs male and lose nothing at 1800 calories). There you get more honest answers. Guys saying they started out higher but when they hit walls they had to dip way down. Some eating 1500 calories a day. Whatever answer you hear take it with a hugggggge grain of salt. You're probably talking to people who either a) have mutant metabolisms or b) do more cardio than they really are admitting.
Or c) people who claim not to lose at 1800 calories are eating way more than they think (or use inaccurate entries). or d) the people not losing have some medical issues that they should really bring up with their doctor.
In the end though it all comes to how active you are. My maintenance is probably around 2300 calories, but I exercise a lot (10 hours of cardio a week) and I fidget a lot - I was trying to read a book earlier and probably got up 10 times to put the laundry in the dryer, get some water, take the laundry upstairs, put a couple things in the dishwasher... plus doing groceries, chores etc... Someone who exercises one hour a day but sits the rest of the day will not burn as many calories by a long shot.0 -
I'm 5'3" and 113 pounds and I lose weight on 1600 to 2200 calories per day depending on my level of activity. I exercise five to six days per week for 30 to 60 minutes and average 12000 to 19000 steps per day on my Fitbit.
I'm a bit suspicious when certain people claim they can't lose on low amounts. It's usually a case of that person overestimating their activity level, underestimating how much they eat, or a combination of both.0 -
strong_curves wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »strong_curves wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »MFP is the land of food braggers. Everyone is eating. I don't know how but they're doing it. I've been poking around the reddit loseit forums asking similar questions I ask here. How many calories guys my size eat, etc. The answers here seem high. Here you get guys swearing they lose weight eating 2500-3000 calories. Women eating more than me losing weight (I'm a 230lbs male and lose nothing at 1800 calories). There you get more honest answers. Guys saying they started out higher but when they hit walls they had to dip way down. Some eating 1500 calories a day. Whatever answer you hear take it with a hugggggge grain of salt. You're probably talking to people who either a) have mutant metabolisms or b) do more cardio than they really are admitting.
Not bitter much..............I mean, feel free to look at my diary and install CCTV in my kitchen. Why would I lie about what I eat!?
Well, people *never* lie on reddit. So we know there is lying going on here.
Meh, I dunno. I just noticed it wasn't as geared towards food bragging. It's a badge of honor here. It's very skewed and I think it paints a one sided picture. It was just interesting to hear a group of men my height who were my weight say honestly "yeah, I could eat more at first but then I had to go much much lower" basically. You never hear that here. "TDEE-20%. Never go below your BMR. Etc." I'm already eating below my BMR and the scale isn't moving.
Hell yeah it's a badge of honor! I like not starving myself in order to lose weight. I feel bad for the people I know who are existing on lettuce and still haven't lost half the weight I've lost!!!
So is there a logical explanation on why they're unable to lose weight eating like you?
Yes, there is. They probably eat way more when they're at home, they're inconsistent, they don't track their intake, they think eating salad and doing the elliptical for hours is enough, after doing the elliptical they decide to "treat" themselves to a snack because the elliptical said they burned 900 calories, but it's mostly they aren't accurately tracking HOW much they're eating.
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
EDIT: there are literally 6 things on my diary today so far, 2 of which are planned items I haven't even eaten LOL. It does not get any more paired down than that. I guess I could just start having 1 item meals twice a day to eliminate any possible room for error.
I have no idea why you're not losing, I've seen you vent this frustration before. Even if you are 75% accurate (and I use that word losely) with your intake you should be losing. Have you been to a Dr. to rule out any health issues?
All I know is once I started accurately tracking my intake (meaning using a food scale) and became consistent with my workout routine I have been steadily losing, on average, .5 lbs a week.
My vitamin D was low LOL. I take a vitamin D pill now.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
Look back at your diary for the past month (since Jan 1). You've been over your goal quite a few times, and there are a few days in there where you obviously didn't log all you ate, especially within the past 2 weeks. Jan 15, Jan 16, Jan 17, Jan 18, Jan 20, Jan 22, Jan 26. All these days you either didn't log accurately (or at all) or you were over. That seems like a huge roadblock to weightloss to me. Nobody is getting on you about not weighing a prepackaged yogurt. Not logging on a weekend, though, implies you weren't watching anything you were eating.
15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.
Nobody is saying that you can't have a diet break. But when you take a diet break, it doesn't make sense to simultaneously complain about not losing weight regularly and decide that everyone else is lying about what they actually eat.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
EDIT: there are literally 6 things on my diary today so far, 2 of which are planned items I haven't even eaten LOL. It does not get any more paired down than that. I guess I could just start having 1 item meals twice a day to eliminate any possible room for error.
I can relate. When I started here, I wasn't losing at a rate that compared with friends and it felt like I was stalled or barely losing anything - and I felt resentful as I was restricting and not seeing the results that were predicted by the MFP recommendation. I would congratulate friends through gritted teeth as they reported another 2 or 3 pound weight loss for the week. I would snarl at threads where folk were dancing around flaunting how much they could eat and still lose weight. Of course they weren't literally dancing, or indeed flaunting. But that is how it appeared to me as it seemed so unfair that I'd barely lost a 2 pounds in a month - and then seemingly gained weight (which turned out to be hormonal but hey, I was pissed).
And then I realised I needed to stop taking the estimates that were given me by the various calculators of TDEE/BMR as gospel and instead record my own data for a month - and adjust accordingly to how much I wanted to lose. And trust the science.
It does work. That's why I'm eating around 1500 cals a day, and exercising for about an hour of low level cardio (while watching telly! yay!). Because I wanted to lose a pound a week and because I now know, based on calculations using my data, that's what I have to do.
So, stop comparing yourself to others, and stop relying on online calculators that you know are inaccurate for you. They are estimates and we are all different. Work it out for yourself. I'm sure you have plenty data to start from.
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janejellyroll wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
Look back at your diary for the past month (since Jan 1). You've been over your goal quite a few times, and there are a few days in there where you obviously didn't log all you ate, especially within the past 2 weeks. Jan 15, Jan 16, Jan 17, Jan 18, Jan 20, Jan 22, Jan 26. All these days you either didn't log accurately (or at all) or you were over. That seems like a huge roadblock to weightloss to me. Nobody is getting on you about not weighing a prepackaged yogurt. Not logging on a weekend, though, implies you weren't watching anything you were eating.
15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.
Nobody is saying that you can't have a diet break. But when you take a diet break, it doesn't make sense to simultaneously complain about not losing weight regularly and decide that everyone else is lying about what they actually eat.
Meh, it was stalled before the weekend anyways. I gained a few pounds over that weekend then it went back down thanks to the fast. I doubt it's the reason. Plus aren't diet breaks supposedly supposed to induce the magical woosh people babble on about.0 -
So...back to the topic of the thread...0
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When I lost weight, it was during the summer and spring, so my TDEE was high enough that I ate around 1700-1800 calories per day. (I am 5'6, started around 135lbs, ended at 118llbs) During the cold months, it's much lower because I'm not as active and it would be difficult for me to lose at that calorie amount. It just depends on your height, weight and activity level.0
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juggernaut1974 wrote: »So...back to the topic of the thread...
Ikr! I feel bad for hijacking the OP's thread
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CalorieCountChocula wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
Look back at your diary for the past month (since Jan 1). You've been over your goal quite a few times, and there are a few days in there where you obviously didn't log all you ate, especially within the past 2 weeks. Jan 15, Jan 16, Jan 17, Jan 18, Jan 20, Jan 22, Jan 26. All these days you either didn't log accurately (or at all) or you were over. That seems like a huge roadblock to weightloss to me. Nobody is getting on you about not weighing a prepackaged yogurt. Not logging on a weekend, though, implies you weren't watching anything you were eating.
15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.
Nobody is saying that you can't have a diet break. But when you take a diet break, it doesn't make sense to simultaneously complain about not losing weight regularly and decide that everyone else is lying about what they actually eat.
Meh, it was stalled before the weekend anyways. I gained a few pounds over that weekend then it went back down thanks to the fast. I doubt it's the reason. Plus aren't diet breaks supposedly supposed to induce the magical woosh people babble on about.
Babble? You don't really seem interested in what others have to say or how others have had success, so I wish you luck in finding something that will help you meet your goals. You seem to know exactly what the problem *isn't* so maybe that will help you, at some point, identify what the problem is.
My goal in entering this conversation was to let you know that no, people are not lying about what they eat (at least, I'm not).0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.
The 15th was your first time going off plan since Christmas Day? Okay... You made it almost three weeks? That's really not that long. Being over by even 160 will slow your loss.
Not everyone else gets a diet break but you. I went back though December for your diary and I am seeing similar things. Days where you go over or days where only 500 or 700 calories are logged. Lots of "Quick Add" entries. Days with nothing logged. Until you get an entire month in with accurate logging every single day, then I really don't think you should be complaining about not being able to lose weight. I don't know about you, but 2 days of not logging what I eat or cheating can throw the entire month off for me. Man, I can pack it down if I'm not paying attention.
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I am losing and on average eat about 2300 on a work day. More like 1800 on a "weekend" day when I am less active.0
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CalorieCountChocula wrote: »So is there a logical explanation on why they're unable to lose weight eating like you?
For my friends, their deprivation diets always lead to binges which contain more calories than they skimped on. Plus a sedentary job and no exercise. And they never understand why they don't keep the weight off.0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »CalorieCountChocula wrote: »
What about when that's not the case? My diet is bare bones as it is. I'm not secretly or accidently eating a whole pizza at night that I'm forgetting to log. I barely eat out anymore because it's been drilled into my head how inaccurate I am even though I weight 95% of what I eat (again, seriously, who kind of nut thinks of a few calories worth of yogurt amounts to anything???). When I do eat out it's boring. Salmon. Yawn. Veggies. Yawn.
Look back at your diary for the past month (since Jan 1). You've been over your goal quite a few times, and there are a few days in there where you obviously didn't log all you ate, especially within the past 2 weeks. Jan 15, Jan 16, Jan 17, Jan 18, Jan 20, Jan 22, Jan 26. All these days you either didn't log accurately (or at all) or you were over. That seems like a huge roadblock to weightloss to me. Nobody is getting on you about not weighing a prepackaged yogurt. Not logging on a weekend, though, implies you weren't watching anything you were eating.
15th - 17th I went out of town. First time going off plan since Christmas Day. I know, everyone else gets a diet break but me. That's fine. Anyhow, the 18th I really did it the low number from my diary. I fasted most of the day and only had dinner because of the weekend. The 20ths I was over by 160ish like it says. Same for the 22nd. the 26th appears over only because my goal was previously set at 1800 and I set it at 1500 after the fact. This makes it appear as though I went over though I hit my target.
Nobody is saying that you can't have a diet break. But when you take a diet break, it doesn't make sense to simultaneously complain about not losing weight regularly and decide that everyone else is lying about what they actually eat.
Meh, it was stalled before the weekend anyways. I gained a few pounds over that weekend then it went back down thanks to the fast. I doubt it's the reason. Plus aren't diet breaks supposedly supposed to induce the magical woosh people babble on about.
I don't understand that myth about diet breaks. My diet breaks make me gain 2 pounds every time. Just saying (but of course it's typically vacations or Holidays and I do go over, so yeah. Science).
For the record, you might want to double check some of your entries... you're using an entry for swai fish that seems inaccurate - 9oz should be 230ish calories, not 160. I don't trust Walmart stuff, I once bought shrimp there that was supposedly 40 calories for 84 ounces - just no. So once again - you're probably eating more than you think. If you just started, well, it's normal not to lose much at first because muscles tend to retain water when you start working out.0 -
I eat about 1450 +/- and lose about 2lbs/week. 5'8", 36, 210sw/200cw/165gw0
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MFP gives me 2020 to lose 2 pounds a week. Of course I'm clinically obese and have LOTS of weight to lose though. Plus i get 300-400 extra calories 3-4 days a week from exercise and 100-200 calories from exercise the other 3-4 days.
I usually only eat about 1700ish though. But some days I go out with friends and eat up to 2300. Though usually only one once or twice a month.0 -
Older people need fewer calories to sustain their weight. People over 50 need to consider this . A 2000 calorie a day standard for women, 2500 for men does not apply.
Metabolisms slow with age.0 -
I am 5'7". I lost my first 75lbs eating 1800 a day. I'm now 166lbs, (down 97.4lbs) eating 1600 and still losing.0
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Op- I eat between 2200-2600 right now ( I am no longer at a deficit )
The last time I was at a deficit I ate around 1800.
I'm 5'8 135 lbs female . I lost at 1800 . I am active.
Yes there are many who 1200 cals is too low for( Unless someone is old, tiny , short - you get my point )
Also 1200 is not sustainable for most. I surely could not live off of 1200 and be happy !
There are lots of people on here who claim they are not losing so MUST eat low calories. Usually these people are not logging accurate. They are not using a food scale to weigh solids and are not measuring liquids. They often guess their calories and are eating more then they believe they are.
For this to work, you must be as accurate as possible! Get a food scale and use it ! Log correctly ! No bar code scans, quick adds or guesses. Weigh everything! Log everything! Oils, butter, ketchup , dressings and all ! For this to work people must be honest with themselves!
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nutmegoreo wrote: »I am eating 1700/ day at 5'2" and 42, I'm down 45lb so far. I am losing about 1.5lb/week on average. I am enjoying this much more than when I was doing 1200.
Is 1700 what you NET? congrats on your loss!!!!0 -
CalorieCountChocula wrote: »MFP is the land of food braggers. Everyone is eating. I don't know how but they're doing it. I've been poking around the reddit loseit forums asking similar questions I ask here. How many calories guys my size eat, etc. The answers here seem high. Here you get guys swearing they lose weight eating 2500-3000 calories. Women eating more than me losing weight (I'm a 230lbs male and lose nothing at 1800 calories). There you get more honest answers. Guys saying they started out higher but when they hit walls they had to dip way down. Some eating 1500 calories a day. Whatever answer you hear take it with a hugggggge grain of salt. You're probably talking to people who either a) have mutant metabolisms or b) do more cardio than they really are admitting.
I also wonder when people tell others how many cals they are consuming, are these gross cals or net cals. Not many people specify when they throw their calorie count out there. To me, this is extremely significant information that people need to divulge. It's the net that counts at the end of the day.0 -
I eat 1200 + half my exercise calories and am losing about a pound a week (was doing that before coming to MFP, but MFP has really helped me see the numbers and understand where my calories are coming from.) BUT I started at 180 pounds, at 5' 4" tall, with thyroid issues. From experience, I figure I can probably stay this low for another 5 to 10 lbs, but then will have to switch up to 1400 base calories as I build fitness and increase activity.
It really depends on what your goal is and how well your body processes food and responds to exercise, and for that every individual is going to be different.0 -
I'm at 1610 and with exercise calories I usually can eat more than that. I don't always eat all my exercise calories back. I also don't weigh my food though so I probably eat more calories than I log. I've still lost weight this month though. For reference, I'm 26 yr old female, 5'7", and started the month at 205.0
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Older people need fewer calories to sustain their weight. People over 50 need to consider this . A 2000 calorie a day standard for women, 2500 for men does not apply.
Metabolisms slow with age.
It would depend on your activity level now, wouldn't it?
Current maintenance is at about 2900 Cal.
IF and when I average below that... I lose.
You may want to use a trending weight app, it helps you figure out whether your general weight level is doing what you think it is doing based on scale measurements.
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Wow... I'm a food bragger? LOL No, I just walk a fair amount. Do a little Zumba and yoga. Just started strong lifts 5x5. You know, average middle aged lady things.
But I like that... 'food bragger'...
Yeah, mine's bigger than yours! Dinner that is! Hahaha0 -
FYI: calorie requirements only go down very slightly & progressively as one ages. So check me out! I'm an OLD eating these amounts and losing weight! Maybe a freak show in Florida will want to display me!!0
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My Fitbit tells me my estimate average daily burn is 2185. My average daily intake (total, not NET) is 1785 for the month January so far. I've lost 3lbs in that time, which is spot on to what a 400 calorie deficit would suggest. So, yeah, I eat quite a bit more than 1500 to lose at a decent pace (I'm 5'7", 148.4lbs, 39F, for reference).0
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