Vegetarians Are Just Better People

At runningneo122: I'm not sure if you quoted me because you found my comment humorous, so I just wanted to clarify. I was speaking perhaps too generally by saying that people can live without killing animals in the process. As a vegetarian, a lot of the food that I eat still comes from cows or chickens, and it is not possible to track down every single farm that supplies the products contained in all of my food. However, a vegan diet is also not cruelty free - vegan diets often require a larger number of vegetables and crops to maintain, therefore an increased amount of harvesting is needed, which in turn damages the environment and animals that live in it.

Vegetarian diets and vegan diets are therefore not necessarily that great for the environment. There is much controversy about the destruction of forests, particularly to make way for the planting of vegetarian substitute foods. There is no such thing as a perfectly cruelty free, eco friendly diet. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere, as this is the only way we can survive. I personally choose my diet because I feel it is a lesser evil when it comes to animal cruelty. Do I think it'll make a real difference to the world? No. But I would rather not eat meat as a personal protest against the way that a lot of animals are treated in the meat industry than roll over and do nothing about it at all.

At runningneo122: I'm not sure if you quoted me because you found my comment humorous, so I just wanted to clarify. I was speaking perhaps too generally by saying that people can live without killing animals in the process. As a vegetarian, a lot of the food that I eat still comes from cows or chickens, and it is not possible to track down every single farm that supplies the products contained in all of my food. However, a vegan diet is also not cruelty free - vegan diets often require a larger number of vegetables and crops to maintain, therefore an increased amount of harvesting is needed, which in turn damages the environment and animals that live in it.

Vegetarian diets and vegan diets are therefore not necessarily that great for the environment. There is much controversy about the destruction of forests, particularly to make way for the planting of vegetarian substitute foods. There is no such thing as a perfectly cruelty free, eco friendly diet. Sacrifices have to be made somewhere, as this is the only way we can survive. I personally choose my diet because I feel it is a lesser evil when it comes to animal cruelty. Do I think it'll make a real difference to the world? No. But I would rather not eat meat as a personal protest against the way that a lot of animals are treated in the meat industry than roll over and do nothing about it at all.

OMG, I never thought I would say I love a vegan. Well said!

I'm going to send you a friend request, I will understand if you decline, because I'm pretty outspoken about vegans, but understand it's the millitant vegans I have a problem with.

why are we arguing about vegetarianism?
i am a vegetarian and it was the best choice i ever made.
I dont care if your not, and you shouldn't care that I am.

The general impression I get from this thread is people are just stating what their choices are, and why; not arguing. It's great you're happy with your food choice.

Agree...I don't really see anyone arguing here... everyone is just stating their choice and no one seems to be preaching.

Quite refreshing to see a lot of non preachy vegetarians and meat eaters on this thread. I'd love to add you all as friends!

Agree! add me if you wish...I'm a carnivore

our friend is a vegetarian but mostly a picky princess of an eater she only eats lettuce and peanut butter and pasta....yo think she'd be a twig but she is a hefty chick.

Veggies or eating crap to forgo meat won't automatically make you thinner or better or healthier.

You do what is right for you. I remember reading the book Eating Animals right before Easter last year and all I coulod do was eat the veggies and did that for a few weeks and caved.

Sorry veg people, I just needed some chicken and bacon.

I do try now to be better about buying meats with no hormones or steroids and grass fed stuff.

I'd want to die a hell of a lot sooner though...imagine a life without bacon. Or steak. Or burgers. Or hotdogs. The horror of it all.

Ow dear god, a life without kfc, big mac burgers, meat feast pizzas... bbq sauce would never of been invented =O
I dont want to even think about it.
Quick lets kill all the veggies before the government decide they have a point!!

It's also a pain to visit New England and have to order grilled cheese because that's the only non-meat option they have during the winter (true).

What? Not true at all. I've live in New England and as a vegetarian, I've never had this issue. Maybe you were eating at a steakhouse? Almost every restaurant has salads and at least one vegetarian entree. I did go to a restaurant in Utah where literally every item on the menu (including salads) had meat in it.

It's not a blanket statement covering all the states and restaurants in New England. It also wasn't a steakhouse (I'm fully aware when I'm eating at a steakhouse). It is 100% true to my experience at the time...just like your experience in Utah. So, thanks for offering your critique of my experience.

Oy vey. If you absolutely cannot live without _______, that's an addiction and I feel sorry for you.

This is a stupid blanket statement to make. Could you live without sleep, water, food? NO?!?!?!? OMG you are addicted, and I feel sorry for you.

Oy vey. If you absolutely cannot live without _______, that's an addiction and I feel sorry for you.

This is a stupid blanket statement to make. Could you live without sleep, water, food? NO?!?!?!? OMG you are addicted, and I feel sorry for you.

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i'm a vegetarian and since becoming one i've lost a great amount of weight. there are plenty of ways of getting plenty protein