Weight Loss Surgery in Mexico?
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My cousin had the surgery and had an unrelated infection months later. Her body could not fight the infection with normal antibiotics, so the doctor prescribed some concoction that left her with depleted kidney function. She almost ended up on dialysis. Lucky she is young and able to get her kidneys functioning without dialysis. She was unable to work for almost a year before she was healthy enough. And she is back at her sw.0
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Has the OP even come back?
@booksandchocolate12 no & I find this to be a common oddity. Many threads're started & they go on, for multiple pages; just via back & forth conversations among the regulars & the OP never responds, even once. I understand the threads, in which the OP; rage quits after at least 1 response but I don't understand these, types of threads. So that's why I typically won't post, to the OP; if I post in their abandoned thread or if I deem it extremely important, I'll tag or/and PM them.0 -
The OP's profile states, that she's 42 & she desires to have, a 2nd child. At her age & if healthy, she doesn't have many typical, breeding years left & thus for the rush.0
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Has the OP even come back?
I do find it funny when they don't see the response they are looking for they never come back.0 -
booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Has the OP even come back?
I do find it funny when they don't see the response they are looking for they never come back.
There was a thread yesterday where the OP said she was expecting to be bashed so didn't plan on coming back to read replies. And she never posted to the thread again (she may have lurked, though...who knows?).
What I want to know is, why post a question, a comment, an observation, if you have no intention of engaging in a discussion about it? What's the point?
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Has the OP even come back?
I do find it funny when they don't see the response they are looking for they never come back.
There was a thread yesterday where the OP said she was expecting to be bashed so didn't plan on coming back to read replies. And she never posted to the thread again (she may have lurked, though...who knows?).
What I want to know is, why post a question, a comment, an observation, if you have no intention of engaging in a discussion about it? What's the point?
Sometimes (not saying that it's the case here) people post a question without realizing how active the boards can be. Particularly on some topics. I have seen some threads bumped by the OP days later stating they had no idea there would be all those responses. I wonder if some lose the thread and don't know how to find it. And certainly there are times when they really didn't want contradictory responses because they have already decided. Others may need some time to take it on board. I used to find it frustrating to spend so much time responding and not even so much as a thanks for your time. Then I realized that I was being the fool for spending the time on it
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*shrug*. The OP could be lurking after making the initial post. And if s/he doesn't learn from it, others still might. I did the majority of my learning on MFP by searching reading older posts. It doesn't bother me that much when they don't post back.0
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Wow people sure are being harsh. There are plenty of facilities in Mexico that are run extremely well, clean, helpful, amazing. The doctors are lovely and wonderful at their job.
I had WLS first in the U.S. under health insurance but am now temporarily living in Mexico with family. Due to circumstances I decided to have a second WLS surgery but here in Mexico. I had a very good experience, one of my doctors was so lovely she hugged me several times and we both said we loved each other! I get emailed with instructions and information to help me know what to take and eat and do. I'm to email them blood sample draws every 3 months so they can monitor I'm getting all my nutrients and vitamins. They took great care of me and so far this surgery has felt far easier to recover than my first. I never felt any pain!! There were around 3-4 other people (all Mexicans btw so it's trusted locally) getting various WLS at the time.
For me the major downside is you can get it done at such a rush and without knowing much information and how to treat yourself. Luckily from the first time, in the U.S., they made me take classes and they're better at making 100% sure you know what you're doing and expecting before letting you have it. In Mexico you can just do it and not find out about some stuff till after. Don't just do it without a ton of research, this is a huge decision that will affect the rest of your life and some people can't handle that.
So in the end, I'm not saying "yes go do it"... I just wanted to say Mexico can be an option if it's researched well. Go to WLS forums, they talk about good doctors.
I'm sure there are good doctors and medical care available in Mexico. To me the deal breaker would be having elective surgery in another country an issue comes up and expecting your insurance to pay to fix it.0 -
Not on a WLS note, but I traveled to Mexico while I was pregnant, and started to bleed. I went to the *best* hospital and they wanted to INDUCE ME at 26 weeks, because the baby had "low fluid". I talked to my doctor in the US and we decided it would be in my best interest to return home and be seen immediately. Flew home that night, baby was perfectly fine and I had just overdone it walking around. Had I let them induce me, my 2 year old most likely wouldn't be here today.0
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Just for the record - I am grateful for all the responses. I asked a specific question: Did s.o. have surgery in Mexico and what was the experience. As far as I can see, nobody answered the question. Instead: I got a lot of opinions and judgment from people I do not know and who do not know me - I simply feel I could have asked this question 10000 people at a hockey game and I whatever these strangers think I will do.....
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I thought we all gave solid advice.0
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I feel like people gave their honest opinions on why they would (generally speaking) never have surgery in Mexico in the first place. I think that's answering your question. Besides, even if someone posts on here that they had WL surgery in Mexico, that is only one person's experience with who knows how many variables. I think people just want you to be safe and not take unnecessary risks, me included.0
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You are on a public forum, and those who could have answered your specific question, are probably dead. Instead you have gotten sensible advice from people who have experienced overweight, even obesity, and found healthy and sustainable ways to deal with it. I'm glad you have read it all, and I'm sure you will think so too, not now, but later, when you have "digested" it.0
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I'm on the other side of the world, but the equivalent over here is going to South East Asia for WLS. Just before Christmas, my friend's dad went for WLS in Sth Korea. They finally got the body back and had a funeral a week or so ago. No one is really sure where the body was in the intervening weeks.0
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I think it's fairly telling that 2.3 THOUSAND people read this thread and no one has had a positive review or shared an experience of having surgery there.0
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There are excellent surgeons in Mexico and very good hospitals there also a friend of mine had a cosmetic surgery procedure there. My late husband was a surgeon and he talked about some of the great doctors and hospitals in Mexico and other countries but just don't do it alone be sure you have people with you and look carefully before you go forward.0
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Edited for addressing wrong person. NVM0
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Wow. You got advice from health care professionals who have experience with hospitals in Mexico. You got opinions from people who have not had weight loss surgery in Mexico, but have had other experiences with health care in Mexico.
But these responses were of no value to you?0 -
leseratte2222 wrote: »Just for the record - I am grateful for all the responses. I asked a specific question: Did s.o. have surgery in Mexico and what was the experience. As far as I can see, nobody answered the question. Instead: I got a lot of opinions and judgment from people I do not know and who do not know me - I simply feel I could have asked this question 10000 people at a hockey game and I whatever these strangers think I will do.....
Several posters were willing to try to help you get WLS coverage in Canada. Maybe reread the thread and respond to them.0 -
I was talking about this (going to Mexico for surgeries, we live close enough to the border that lots of people here drive there for vacations) with my coworker, and she brought up the TV show Botched. I guess quite a few of the screwed up surgeries are done in Mexico and other Latin America countries. I don't think I would go to another country for surgery due to the fact I would want regular checkups afterwards with my surgical team. Also there's the question of legal recourse should the surgery be botched.0
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booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Wow. You got advice from health care professionals who have experience with hospitals in Mexico. You got opinions from people who have not had weight loss surgery in Mexico, but have had other experiences with health care in Mexico.
But these responses were of no value to you?
Yes, because they didn't validate what OP wanted to do. Welcome to MFP.0 -
I feel like people gave their honest opinions on why they would (generally speaking) never have surgery in Mexico in the first place. I think that's answering your question. Besides, even if someone posts on here that they had WL surgery in Mexico, that is only one person's experience with who knows how many variables. I think people just want you to be safe and not take unnecessary risks, me included.
So basically you're upset because no one gave you the answer you wanted which was "yes, I did it and it worked! Go for it!".
Yea, that's not going to happen.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »booksandchocolate12 wrote: »Wow. You got advice from health care professionals who have experience with hospitals in Mexico. You got opinions from people who have not had weight loss surgery in Mexico, but have had other experiences with health care in Mexico.
But these responses were of no value to you?
Yes, because they didn't validate what OP wanted to do. Welcome to MFP.
I realize this attitude is prevalent on MFP; I don't know why it surprises me anymore.
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I used to work at one of the top-ranked hospitals in the U.S. We had a very wealthy family from Mexico that would fly the entire family here for routine medical care. And when I say wealthy, I mean WEALTHY. They could have afforded the best in Mexico, yet they chose the U.S. That should tell you something.
Exactly. Anybody from Latin America who needs good health care flies to Florida or New York to get it.0 -
karintalley wrote: »
Yeah..I agree. It might be harder for people with extremely high BMI to lose weight because they lack motivation. My hubby is a perfect example. It took him to ask for a seat belt extender on the plane and quit a few other health related issues until he decided, screw this. He has left to lose another 100 pounds , and lost 30 so far. He used to not be able to walk very far, always tired, hungry etc..now he is more active than I am. He lifts weights, do the elliptical at a high level for 45 min per day. His health problems are gone. Imagine how he must feel in another 100 pounds. I'm so incredibly proud of him.
Excuse me?
I gained weight due to disability and a life-threatening illness. My motivation was just FINE.
As soon as I was well enough, I was able go from a BMI in the 40s to a BMI in the 20s.
Please stop painting people with such a broad brush. Your experience with ONE obese person is not something you can extend to everyone in the same situation.0 -
To the OP, a very simple thought: surgeons believe in surgery. That's what they do. They've spent a lot of time learning how and performing such. Unless they are dishonest sociopathic pricks, they do honestly believe in what they do!
And yet they don't seem to believe that you've exhausted all your other options. Not enough so to put you on a 90 day waiting list for surgery.
So there is something in your current mind-set/approach/life circumstances that makes them very hesitant that you will be able to follow through with everything you have to do in order to turn a successful surgery into a successful final outcome.
On top of that, potential complications from this elective surgery probably won't/shouldn't be covered.0 -
I started posting as a reaction to a statement made above about BMI over 40 and needing to eat 1200 calories for the rest of your life.
MFP is full of these 2% people.
I have yet to see statistics that indicate my risk of regain is increased because I didn't have surgery.
I sure as hell do not maintain eating 1200 calories a day. In fact I don't even maintain eating 2500 calories a day.
My "NET" calories during a period of fairly rapid weight loss averaging more than 1lb a week since I joined MFP 15 months and ~70lbs ago are well north of 2100.
You do need to consider this a change of lifestyle; not a diet.
If you return to your previous lifestyle you WILL regain the weight.0 -
azulvioleta6 wrote: »karintalley wrote: »
Yeah..I agree. It might be harder for people with extremely high BMI to lose weight because they lack motivation. My hubby is a perfect example. It took him to ask for a seat belt extender on the plane and quit a few other health related issues until he decided, screw this. He has left to lose another 100 pounds , and lost 30 so far. He used to not be able to walk very far, always tired, hungry etc..now he is more active than I am. He lifts weights, do the elliptical at a high level for 45 min per day. His health problems are gone. Imagine how he must feel in another 100 pounds. I'm so incredibly proud of him.
Excuse me?
I gained weight due to disability and a life-threatening illness. My motivation was just FINE.
As soon as I was well enough, I was able go from a BMI in the 40s to a BMI in the 20s.
Please stop painting people with such a broad brush. Your experience with ONE obese person is not something you can extend to everyone in the same situation.
Did you miss the word "might"?0 -
Wow what a bunch of Haters!! I have battled obesity my whole life, from kindergarten till I finally had VSG!!! I have lost most of my weight, feel great, am healthy, etc... It has been 4 years since surgery and the main thing is I have NOT regained my weight and then some, like I had all the previous attempts I had at weightloss before surgery!!! So to each his own, and Quit being so judgmental People... Just because U did it had the will power or whatever you want to call it doesn't make U Better than or Having done it healthier than anyone else!!! Get over Yourselves and step down from that Throne you put yourself on before you fall down.... Just my thoughts0
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benthe0418 wrote: »Wow what a bunch of Haters!! I have battled obesity my whole life, from kindergarten till I finally had VSG!!! I have lost most of my weight, feel great, am healthy, etc... It has been 4 years since surgery and the main thing is I have NOT regained my weight and then some, like I had all the previous attempts I had at weightloss before surgery!!! So to each his own, and Quit being so judgmental People... Just because U did it had the will power or whatever you want to call it doesn't make U Better than or Having done it healthier than anyone else!!! Get over Yourselves and step down from that Throne you put yourself on before you fall down.... Just my thoughts
I don't think most of us are bothered by the fact the OP wants to have weight loss surgery. It's that she wants to have it far from home, in another country, where medical conditions are not ideal.0
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