Eating within range but scale not cooperating!

gmcgarv71
gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
edited November 29 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi All. I could use some advice & encouragement. Started MFP 2.5 weeks ago. Weighed 167; goal weight was 145 but maybe 150 is more realistic. In first week, I lost almost 7 pounds (!!!), but this second week, I have steadily gained back 4. So net loss is still 3 pounds -- BUT why am I gaining weight if I'm eating under my cal limit?

Other details: I'm fit - I spin, lift weights. My job is inactive but I take walks throughout day when I can. I do drink alcohol daily but within my calorie limit.

My concern is that my body is in "starvation" mode and is holding on to fat. I'm hungry all the time on this diet. It's very discouraging to see the scale go up when you are "suffering" through being hungry and watching every bite.

I'm not ready to give up yet. Today I ate more fat in the morning meal to stave off hunger (MCT oil, olive oil), but that also means it is 10:30am and I have 350 calories left for the entire day!

Does anyone have any advice? What am I doing wrong?

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  • How many calories are you eating in a day? Are you weighing/measuring all of your food?
  • Equus5374
    Equus5374 Posts: 462 Member
    Starvation mode does not exist in the first world; it's strictly a third world thing. If you're hungry all the time, perhaps you've set your goal too high (2 lbs/week, am I right?). Set it to 1 or 1.5 a week for a while until you get used to eating at a deficit. Your first week's weight loss was probably water weight; it happens with new dieters. If you've changed up your exercise routine at all or started to lift heavier, your muscles may be hanging on to water for repair. You also need to be absolutely positive regarding the calorie counts in your food, in other words, get a food scale and weigh/measure everything you put in your mouth. You might be eating more than you think. Lastly, HAVE PATIENCE!!!!!!! Two and a half weeks is not a long time. It took me 2 YEARS to lose 20 pounds. So many people have been poisoned by the promise of fad diets. Sustainable weight loss is not fast weight loss. As far a satiety, I have great success with eating more protein and fiber rather than fat. Protein especially fills me up and keeps me fuller longer. You also need to thoroughly understand that weight loss isn't linear. You will go up and down over the course of the week. Put that scale away and only weigh yourself every two weeks or so if it's causing this much consternation. Do the best you can and you'll see results, but you need to have more patience.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
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  • seska422
    seska422 Posts: 3,217 Member
    edited February 2016
    You aren't in starvation mode. There's no such thing.

    Most of what you lost that first week was water weight. You just retained a little more water this week.

    If you are hungry all of the time, try upping your protein, fat, and/or fiber. Also, with so little to lose, you only want to aim for 0.5-1 pound per week weight loss.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    gmcgarv71 wrote: »

    My concern is that my body is in "starvation" mode and is holding on to fat.

    This is a myth.

    My advice is to just give it more time. Weight loss isn't linear. Some weeks you lose, some weeks you gain, some stay the same. It's the overall trend that counts.

    As for they "why", more than likely it's water retention. Exercise, Sodium, Carbs, ToM, Ovulation, Injury, Sunburn... there's a plethora of things that will give you a temporary water gain.

    Weight fluctuates constantly. It's not a static number. Just keep on truckin' and ignore the fluctuations.
  • rankinsect
    rankinsect Posts: 2,238 Member
    gmcgarv71 wrote: »
    Hi All. I could use some advice & encouragement. Started MFP 2.5 weeks ago. Weighed 167; goal weight was 145 but maybe 150 is more realistic. In first week, I lost almost 7 pounds (!!!), but this second week, I have steadily gained back 4. So net loss is still 3 pounds -- BUT why am I gaining weight if I'm eating under my cal limit?

    Other details: I'm fit - I spin, lift weights. My job is inactive but I take walks throughout day when I can. I do drink alcohol daily but within my calorie limit.

    My concern is that my body is in "starvation" mode and is holding on to fat. I'm hungry all the time on this diet. It's very discouraging to see the scale go up when you are "suffering" through being hungry and watching every bite.

    I'm not ready to give up yet. Today I ate more fat in the morning meal to stave off hunger (MCT oil, olive oil), but that also means it is 10:30am and I have 350 calories left for the entire day!

    Does anyone have any advice? What am I doing wrong?

    Advice:

    1. Starvation mode, as you describe it, is fiction. Actual starvation will reduce your calories out, by doing things like stopping hair growth, reducing wound healing, etc. but even there, it reduces but doesn't eliminate calorie deficit. You need to be seriously malnourished (eating disorder levels of malnourishment) before this is a concern.

    2. Weight loss isn't linear. You certainly didn't lose seven pounds of fat in a week - some was certainly water. Fluctuations are natural.

    3. Plan your days so you don't eat your calories by 10:30.

    4. Extreme hunger typically means unrealistic calorie goals for the amount of weight you have to lose. Assess honestly if your goals are smart or not.

    5. In spite of claims, most scientific studies find fat the least filling macro, particularly consumed on its own. Protein is the most sating, with carbs in between.
  • gmcgarv71
    gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
    Thank you everyone. OK now I feel like an idiot for saying "starvation mode." Thank you for smacking me upside the head.

    No, I don't have a food scale. And yes, I do know that hormones play a huge role with weight gain for me. Yes maybe I will lower my weekly goal.

    I'm a newbie to this and it is just sort of astounding when you start realizing how much every little calorie counts. I won't give up.

    For those of you who have been at this for a while, did you find in the beginning that it was hard to adjust but eventually your body got used to eating less and you weren't so hungry?
  • Jericha1992
    Jericha1992 Posts: 80 Member
    Yes, your body definitely gets used to it. Eating back exercise calories helps, to make sure you're not undereating (to prevent being hungry, not starvation mode). For me, the biggest factor is being full is hitting my macro ratio. For me, fat and protein are very satiating, while carbs really aren't. Your body may be different.
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    gmcgarv71 wrote: »
    For those of you who have been at this for a while, did you find in the beginning that it was hard to adjust but eventually your body got used to eating less and you weren't so hungry?

    For me, it was important to pay attention to what foods were most satisfying for me and adjust my diet to include more of them and less of foods that didn't keep me feeling full for long. I don't think these foods are the same for everyone so it may take a little trial and error.

    Also, for me I found that some days I am simply hungrier that others. So I don't eat the same number of calories every day. When losing I went for an average of about 1500 - 1600 per day. But some days I may only eat 1000 calories and others I may eat 2000.
  • gmcgarv71
    gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
    Eating back exercise calories helps, to make sure you're not undereating (to prevent being hungry, not starvation mode).

    OK, I haven't been doing this. Sometimes I spin at 6-7am and then do weights, which according to mfp is something like 600 calories. So I really get to eat 600 more calories on those days?

  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    gmcgarv71 wrote: »
    Thank you everyone. OK now I feel like an idiot for saying "starvation mode." Thank you for smacking me upside the head.

    No, I don't have a food scale. And yes, I do know that hormones play a huge role with weight gain for me. Yes maybe I will lower my weekly goal.

    I'm a newbie to this and it is just sort of astounding when you start realizing how much every little calorie counts. I won't give up.

    For those of you who have been at this for a while, did you find in the beginning that it was hard to adjust but eventually your body got used to eating less and you weren't so hungry?

    Sort of, but I curbed that quickly by pre-logging snacks at very specific times. Mostly it was just adjusting to what a proper portion was supposed to look like. I was so used to eating outlandishly huge portions I couldn't mentally wrap my brain around "1 serving" and such. Once I got my food scale, that helped out tremendously. I was able to visually (and mathematically) see what a serving size was supposed to look like. Also, it helped to just sit and take my time eating. I'd lived so "on the go" and eating mindlessly I wasn't really paying attention to my food. When I take my time I enjoy my food more and I can have 1 or 2 serving of something and then sit back and think to myself "that was exactly enough".
  • robingmurphy
    robingmurphy Posts: 349 Member
    Yes, you get used to eating less. But also the advice above to find out what is satisfying is important. Read a book like "Volumetrics" to get a better idea of what foods fill you up for less calories. The short answer is: Eat lots of fiberous raw and cooked vegetables and fruits, include some lean protein with each meal/snack, remember that broth-based soups are very filling, be mindful while you eat so you can distinguish physical hunger from cravings.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,336 Member
    What is your weight loss goal per week. With as little as you have to lose even a pound a week could very easily be too aggressive. If you have it set higher than that you will likely be negatively affecting your lean mass, especially if you are not eating back exercise calories. Since you were not using a food scale, there is a much bigger margin of error, so it is likely you were eating more than you thought. As to the weight coming back on, the first big loss would have included a bunch of water weight, it is likely some of that water weight rebounded, for lack of a better term, so one reason or another. Give it time, as even a couple of weeks is not enough to establish a trend.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    gmcgarv71 wrote: »
    Eating back exercise calories helps, to make sure you're not undereating (to prevent being hungry, not starvation mode).

    OK, I haven't been doing this. Sometimes I spin at 6-7am and then do weights, which according to mfp is something like 600 calories. So I really get to eat 600 more calories on those days?

    If your calorie goal comes from MFP, it's designed for you to eat your exercise calories back. Many people find that the calorie burns provided by MFP are exaggerated so they may only eat back 25-75% of the calories "earned."
  • klkateri
    klkateri Posts: 432 Member
    I have found that sometimes just a slight increase in my allowable calories has helped with weight loss. Not sure why, but when I hit a plateau I up my calories (maybe 50-200 a day), eat there for a week or two, then drop down again to where I was. I'm sure there is a science behind it but it has helped me several times.

    Also, because you are so close to your goal, try for half a pound a week. I've read that often the closer you are to your final goal the slower weight loss becomes.
  • gmcgarv71
    gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
    Thank you for all of this solid advice.

    I will change my weekly weight-loss goal to 1# a week. I can't bring myself to do .5 pounds because I feel like I need to results in order to stay motivated. And I will try eating 50% of my exercise calories back on days when I do vigorous exercise like spinning. I will get a food scale (although most my foods have been measured in other ways like cups or packages). I'm still figuring out WHAT to eat, so I'll try to pay attention to what makes me feel satisfied.

    Most importantly, I will be more patient!
  • GrumpyHeadmistress
    GrumpyHeadmistress Posts: 666 Member
    When I first started I lost 3lbs in the first week, then gained 7 lbs over the following 2 weeks, then lost 5lbs in the fourth week. It's incredibly frustrating to be eating right, exercising right and be gaining weight. But then this month I've been losing several lbs a week. Measure everything with scales, keep the faith and keeping going!
  • Nachise
    Nachise Posts: 395 Member
    "I'm not ready to give up yet. Today I ate more fat in the morning meal to stave off hunger (MCT oil, olive oil), but that also means it is 10:30am and I have 350 calories left for the entire day!"

    What IS your daily calorie goal? My breakfast consists of yogurt, a banana, cereal, a handful of blackberries, and a handful of raspberries...all weighed and measured, which leaves me with 867 calories for the day. This will hold me over for several hours. I have lost 55 pounds doing this over the last few years.
  • gmcgarv71
    gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
    Nachise wrote: »
    "I'm not ready to give up yet. Today I ate more fat in the morning meal to stave off hunger (MCT oil, olive oil), but that also means it is 10:30am and I have 350 calories left for the entire day!"

    What IS your daily calorie goal? My breakfast consists of yogurt, a banana, cereal, a handful of blackberries, and a handful of raspberries...all weighed and measured, which leaves me with 867 calories for the day. This will hold me over for several hours. I have lost 55 pounds doing this over the last few years.

    Thanks, Nachise. I had some miscalculations this morning so this was incorrect. Seeing that is what set me into a bit of a panic, as in, "This is impossible!" So it was a goof; and with resetting my weekly goal (to more calories per day), I now have 700 or so left today and it's now 12:30pm. Phew!

    I do think I try to eat too little in the beginning of the day. It's tricky bc I used to have eating disorders so I go into this extreme mode of restriction. I don't feel like it is dangerous bc I am in this for the long haul and I'm aware. I just need to give myself permission to do this slowly and to eat enough without eating too much.
  • gmcgarv71
    gmcgarv71 Posts: 13 Member
    When I first started I lost 3lbs in the first week, then gained 7 lbs over the following 2 weeks, then lost 5lbs in the fourth week. It's incredibly frustrating to be eating right, exercising right and be gaining weight. But then this month I've been losing several lbs a week. Measure everything with scales, keep the faith and keeping going!

    Wow! Thanks for that story! That must have been really hard to gain that weight. I just bought a food scale! Thanks for sharing this.
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