CLA and even C4 pre work out
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
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I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol
My trainer has been far from a waste. Investing in training has done more for me than any supplement will ever do. Personalized instruction can help recovery and help you build muscle. You can keep throwing money at supplements in hopes that they will be a band-aid solution or you can fix the problem with one on one training.
I agree with this whole heartedly. After recovering from a shoulder injury myself, a trainer was the best possible decision that I could have made. Over the course of the past year, I've regained all of my lost strength and then some and I couldn't attribute that to any supplement, only hard work, well thought out training plans, and my coach's wisdom/experience.0 -
BecomingBane wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol
My trainer has been far from a waste. Investing in training has done more for me than any supplement will ever do. Personalized instruction can help recovery and help you build muscle. You can keep throwing money at supplements in hopes that they will be a band-aid solution or you can fix the problem with one on one training.
I agree with this whole heartedly. After recovering from a shoulder injury myself, a trainer was the best possible decision that I could have made. Over the course of the past year, I've regained all of my lost strength and then some and I couldn't attribute that to any supplement, only hard work, well thought out training plans, and my coach's wisdom/experience.
I already for the second time have a trainer. I am asking a question about supplimwnts. My original post was for CLA and C4. I'm looking for a test booster or perhaps a better pre work out. It doesn't have to even be a test booster, just something for a better longer work out and pump. . If you haven't ever used or know anything about the supplements your not any help.0 -
There is no such thing as a test booster that works that is not prescribed by a doctor or illegal.0
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So your goal is just to then bench more? And just remember, surgery was for an issue with the shoulder. It DOESN'T stop it from happening again. That's why it's not uncommon for someone to retear or reinjure themselves in the same area.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
If you have a shoulder injury, then IMO you shouldn't be bench pressing. Flat bench pressing isn't great for the shoulders which is why many heavy benchers HAVE shoulder issues.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Redefine your goals: are you just trying to lift heavy weights for ego? Are you trying to improve your physique? Are you trying to improve your strength? If it's strength, then opt for exercisers that strengthen without compromising an injury.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I had surgery over two years ago. I went down to benching 100lbs now I can do 3 sets of 10 of 135lb on my chest days, I've even got one set of 10 of 145! I know it takes time. I recently returned to the gym last February. It's not a big jump but I went from 100lbs to 135lbs on the bench and I feel I'm getting stronger. My should clicks and pops but nothing I can't handle. It would be nice if there was anything I could use to help me focus, feel more testosterone and get a pump for a better maybe alil harder work out.
Think about it, the best athletes in the world who come back from surgery AREN'T going to be 100% every again. Why would it different for anyone else? Point is, that you do what your body ALLOWS you to do. And that may mean not being able to do 200lbs in bench press anymore.
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BecomingBane wrote: »There is no such thing as a test booster that works that is not prescribed by a doctor or illegal.
How do you know. Every try anything?0 -
So your goal is just to then bench more? And just remember, surgery was for an issue with the shoulder. It DOESN'T stop it from happening again. That's why it's not uncommon for someone to retear or reinjure themselves in the same area.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
If you have a shoulder injury, then IMO you shouldn't be bench pressing. Flat bench pressing isn't great for the shoulders which is why many heavy benchers HAVE shoulder issues.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Redefine your goals: are you just trying to lift heavy weights for ego? Are you trying to improve your physique? Are you trying to improve your strength? If it's strength, then opt for exercisers that strengthen without compromising an injury.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I had surgery over two years ago. I went down to benching 100lbs now I can do 3 sets of 10 of 135lb on my chest days, I've even got one set of 10 of 145! I know it takes time. I recently returned to the gym last February. It's not a big jump but I went from 100lbs to 135lbs on the bench and I feel I'm getting stronger. My should clicks and pops but nothing I can't handle. It would be nice if there was anything I could use to help me focus, feel more testosterone and get a pump for a better maybe alil harder work out.
Think about it, the best athletes in the world who come back from surgery AREN'T going to be 100% every again. Why would it different for anyone else? Point is, that you do what your body ALLOWS you to do. And that may mean not being able to do 200lbs in bench press anymore.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
One yes but my goals are to become stronger again. I work out 4xs a week with weights. I slowly have been increasing in weight and in proud. However what suppliments do you recommend to help boost my testosterone or to help give me that bigger pump at the gym.0 -
So your goal is just to then bench more? And just remember, surgery was for an issue with the shoulder. It DOESN'T stop it from happening again. That's why it's not uncommon for someone to retear or reinjure themselves in the same area.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
If you have a shoulder injury, then IMO you shouldn't be bench pressing. Flat bench pressing isn't great for the shoulders which is why many heavy benchers HAVE shoulder issues.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Redefine your goals: are you just trying to lift heavy weights for ego? Are you trying to improve your physique? Are you trying to improve your strength? If it's strength, then opt for exercisers that strengthen without compromising an injury.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I had surgery over two years ago. I went down to benching 100lbs now I can do 3 sets of 10 of 135lb on my chest days, I've even got one set of 10 of 145! I know it takes time. I recently returned to the gym last February. It's not a big jump but I went from 100lbs to 135lbs on the bench and I feel I'm getting stronger. My should clicks and pops but nothing I can't handle. It would be nice if there was anything I could use to help me focus, feel more testosterone and get a pump for a better maybe alil harder work out.
Think about it, the best athletes in the world who come back from surgery AREN'T going to be 100% every again. Why would it different for anyone else? Point is, that you do what your body ALLOWS you to do. And that may mean not being able to do 200lbs in bench press anymore.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Products I currently use
CLA
C4
FISH OIL
GLUCOSAMINE
Not all suppliments are bad. Im looking for advice on ones to take.
How about
BCAA
CREATINE
NO BOOSTER
And any others you or anyone can recommend.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »There is no such thing as a test booster that works that is not prescribed by a doctor or illegal.
How do you know. Every try anything?
Because that is how the laws work. Anything that is going to be truly effective at raising test levels is going to become a banned substance in the USA. Anything that is a strong androgen would become considered a regulated hormonal medication.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Do you need a preworkout? Many just take it because......well everyone else is. My personal opinion is that if someone is getting adequate rest and meeting their macro/micronutrient needs, then really just a burst or caffeine should do ya. The rest is just hype.jakeziskin1 wrote: »
Any recommendations
Lol, kinda of an oxymoron statement because it's a processed product.kolbykdotcom wrote: »The new C4 formula is weak imo. I use the Beachbody performance line preworkout as has no artificial junk in it.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
I don't need the caffeine. I have to much energy as it is lol
I'm not interested in an energy boost
I want something to help me lift weights.
I have been struggling for years due to a shoulder injury and I can only bench press 135lbs. I use to life over 200lbs
I'm not interested in steroids or anything illegal. I have no desire to hurt my body or take drugs. But are there no legal supplements to help boost your testosterone or give you a boost when I'm at the gym.
Creatine is about the only thing that is going to help and that help is minimal. It's time for you to invest in a high quality trainer.
I'm not interested in wast wing money on a trainer.
I have a best friend who's a food and fitness instructor and her boyfriend is a personal trainer. Aside from that I've taken weight training in high school and college, wrestled, played baseball, basket ball and football, so I know plenty of work outs and routines. My problem is my body and the wear and tear it has taken. I'm looking for aomething to help give me that boost. Creatine isn't great, I've tried it and think it's ok, just bloats me with water, I want muscle not water lol
My trainer has been far from a waste. Investing in training has done more for me than any supplement will ever do. Personalized instruction can help recovery and help you build muscle. You can keep throwing money at supplements in hopes that they will be a band-aid solution or you can fix the problem with one on one training.
CREATINE MONOHYDRATE
NO BOOSTER
CLA
C4
FISH OIL
GLUCOSAMINE
THESE ARE ALL SUPPLEMENTS I TAKE
THEY ARE NOT BANDAIDS LOL
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If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.0 -
If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My tear level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
I'm saying test boosters won't do anything. Illegal steroids work because they involve elevating testosterone by 2X normal or more (or for test similar molecules, they react equivalent to raising test that much). Nothing that will stay legal is going to do that kind of change in test, so a test booster is worthless.
If you want to feel more of the "pump" during lifting, anecdotal some people feel more blood flow from things like beta alanine and nitric oxide precursers (like arginine) but it isn't going to replace proper technique and properly functioning shoulder joints.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
What he said was that since your test levels are fine you would have to double your normal levels to see improvement and the only way to do that is illegal.
The pump isn't what makes your lifts better or makes your muscles grow. An appropriate training plan and improved lifting technique will.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My tear level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
I'm saying test boosters won't do anything. Illegal steroids work because they involve elevating testosterone by 2X normal or more (or for test similar molecules, they react equivalent to raising test that much). Nothing that will stay legal is going to do that kind of change in test, so a test booster is worthless.
If you want to feel more of the "pump" during lifting, anecdotal some people feel more blood flow from things like beta alanine and nitric oxide precursers (like arginine) but it isn't going to replace proper technique and properly functioning shoulder joints.
I know weight lifting and training is a skill and should be taken with caution. I work out 4xs a week and have been doing so since last February. I love working out, I just hate when I'm on set 3 or 4 and at rep 5/6 I struggle and can't finish. I Always here people taking about what there on or how pumped they feel. I know there's no magic pill, it's me and working out. I go light enough not to hurt myself but heavy enough to build up my muscle. I just want to take something to help keep my pump up and want to finish my sets.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My tear level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
I'm saying test boosters won't do anything. Illegal steroids work because they involve elevating testosterone by 2X normal or more (or for test similar molecules, they react equivalent to raising test that much). Nothing that will stay legal is going to do that kind of change in test, so a test booster is worthless.
If you want to feel more of the "pump" during lifting, anecdotal some people feel more blood flow from things like beta alanine and nitric oxide precursers (like arginine) but it isn't going to replace proper technique and properly functioning shoulder joints.
...and getting a "pump" will do exactly zip squat zilch zero nada for any kind of 'gainz'. If all the OP wants is a "pump", do a few sets of 20+ reps at low weight. Better than wasting money on a some bogus "supplement" which isn't going to make you bigger, stronger or more "pumped".0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
What he said was that since your test levels are fine you would have to double your normal levels to see improvement and the only way to do that is illegal.
The pump isn't what makes your lifts better or makes your muscles grow. An appropriate training plan and improved lifting technique will.
What's the pump for then?0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My tear level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
I'm saying test boosters won't do anything. Illegal steroids work because they involve elevating testosterone by 2X normal or more (or for test similar molecules, they react equivalent to raising test that much). Nothing that will stay legal is going to do that kind of change in test, so a test booster is worthless.
If you want to feel more of the "pump" during lifting, anecdotal some people feel more blood flow from things like beta alanine and nitric oxide precursers (like arginine) but it isn't going to replace proper technique and properly functioning shoulder joints.
I know weight lifting and training is a skill and should be taken with caution. I work out 4xs a week and have been doing so since last February. I love working out, I just hate when I'm on set 3 or 4 and at rep 5/6 I struggle and can't finish. I Always here people taking about what there on or how pumped they feel. I know there's no magic pill, it's me and working out. I go light enough not to hurt myself but heavy enough to build up my muscle. I just want to take something to help keep my pump up and want to finish my sets.
I ate sour worms the other day about 45 minutes before lifting and had the best chest pump going. All my sets were solid. No supplement needed.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
What he said was that since your test levels are fine you would have to double your normal levels to see improvement and the only way to do that is illegal.
The pump isn't what makes your lifts better or makes your muscles grow. An appropriate training plan and improved lifting technique will.
What's the pump for then?
Orgasm alternative according to Arnold.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
What he said was that since your test levels are fine you would have to double your normal levels to see improvement and the only way to do that is illegal.
The pump isn't what makes your lifts better or makes your muscles grow. An appropriate training plan and improved lifting technique will.
What's the pump for then?
The pump is simply added blood volume. I find that having a pump when doing biceps actually inhibits my workouts. Recovery is where you grow, not the pump.0 -
Are you a lifter? You keep repeating yourself on training and lifting techique like I don't have a trainer or haven't ever been to a gym?0
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »Are you a lifter? You keep repeating yourself on training and lifting techique like I don't have a trainer or haven't ever been to a gym?
I'm a competitive female bodybuilder and world record holding powerlifter.0 -
LOL. We have DYEL in this thread now.0
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »If you already have low test, it would be a doctor's call to prescribe you something.
If you testosterone is normal, there's scant evidence that anything less than doubling normal testosterone and going into supranormal levels will impact performance to a statistically significant amount.
Can you repeat this I don't understand what you wrote. My test level is fine, I want something for more of a pump for weight lifting
What he said was that since your test levels are fine you would have to double your normal levels to see improvement and the only way to do that is illegal.
The pump isn't what makes your lifts better or makes your muscles grow. An appropriate training plan and improved lifting technique will.
What's the pump for then?
Orgasm alternative according to Arnold.
So how about NO booster
What should I be taking?0 -
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »Are you a lifter? You keep repeating yourself on training and lifting techique like I don't have a trainer or haven't ever been to a gym?
I'm a competitive female bodybuilder and world record holding powerlifter.[/
Sounds good0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »
DYEL: Do You Even Lift.0 -
Take care0
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jakeziskin1 wrote: »Most people from these posts are no help lol take care everyone
Quite the contrary. You received the most useful advice possible: consult with a trainer, preferably a sports rehab / physical therapy specialist, to fix your shoulder problem. Barring that, any substance that's really going to do anything your shoulders isn't going to be for sale at a GNC.0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »Most people from these posts are no help lol take care everyone
Quite the contrary. You received the most useful advice possible: consult with a trainer, preferably a sports rehab / physical therapy specialist, to fix your shoulder problem. Barring that, any substance that's really going to do anything your shoulders isn't going to be for sale at a GNC.
No I have not. I asked about C4 and CLA I already have a trainer and a sports Medicin Doctor. The problem is people ver off the question at hand which was asking about safe or any Usefull suppliments for gym use. You have yet to mention a single one. No help0 -
jakeziskin1 wrote: »jakeziskin1 wrote: »Most people from these posts are no help lol take care everyone
Quite the contrary. You received the most useful advice possible: consult with a trainer, preferably a sports rehab / physical therapy specialist, to fix your shoulder problem. Barring that, any substance that's really going to do anything your shoulders isn't going to be for sale at a GNC.
No I have not. I asked about C4 and CLA I already have a trainer and a sports Medicin Doctor. The problem is people ver off the question at hand which was asking about safe or any Usuall suppliments for gym use. You have yet to mention a single one. No help
I have some beans I'll sell you that give giant strength. $50, I'll mail it to you.-1
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