Binge eaters out there needing support
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PPS. While I have preselected my binge alternatives, I don't keep most of them in the house. The rule is I walk a mile to the grocery store to get them. Burns a few calories, and limits me to what I can carry.0
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I'm a binge eater too and once I start, it's hard to get back on track. We were on a cruise and vacation for almost 3 weeks starting Dec 24 and I binged almost the whole time. I knew I would do it too so I ate healthy up until then and brought clothes of varying sizes to accommodate the binge eating. It was so bad that the dress I had planned to wear on New Year's Eve ( day 5 of cruise) had to be worn on day 2 because it was already too tight.
I used to be a poor single mom in my 20s and when I'm somewhere at a buffet or on a cruise where there is an abundance of food, my brain automatically goes into this mode of thinking I have to eat everything or I may not have enough to eat again and I have to get my money's worth.
Each night on the cruise, I would eat 2-3 desserts 1 hr before dinner, order 2-3 appitizers, 3-4 mains, and 2-3 desserts. And this happens all the time when we cruise that my boyfriend has to tell them to bring the dishes out one at a time so we don't have a million dishes on the table at once.
At least I have recognized that this happens and try to avoid buffets and situations like that as much as possible.
It took me 4 weeks to get back to my pre holiday weight and it was really hard to cut out all that sugar/salt again.
I know I'll always have cravings so I plan for treats with healthier alternatives:
At work I keep Quest brownie protein bars for my planned afternoon snack. I warm up half in the microwave for 15 seconds and it tastes like a warm brownie. This keeps me away from all the candy/chocolate bowls at work.
I also have a few bags of Simply Protein chips in my office for when I really have a craving for something salty and crunchy and its a better alternative albeit more expensive.
The 80 calorie fudgsciles and SkinnyPop popcorn are also staples at home to curb my cravings.
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Just went 2000 calories in the red tonight. I'm trying not to beat myself up about it. That will just make me feel worse and I'll end up eating more. I made the mistakes of keeping too much trigger foods at home and not doing a distracting/self-soothing activity when I first noticed that I was craving foods but not physically hungry. I've been doing well with eating and exercising and sometimes that gives me added stress because I obsess about continuing to eat well and exercise and put way too much pressure on myself. Even with feeling pretty bloated after the binge I'm still thinking about eating more but reading posts and writing this one is definitely decreasing the urge.
If anyone is working on a healthy recovery from binge eating, feel free to add me as a friend.0 -
alphastarz & vannyn42, you both give some great, healthy alternatives, suggestions for beating OR satisfying an urge/binge. thanks. I've seriously considered putting yellow caution tape or post-it notes all over my kitchen. Too bad my kitchen does not have it's own door. It'd would be locked when I am home alone.
Last night after I closed my diary - was about 300 over for the day - went back to get 2 single size serving bags of Fritos, and 2 servings of mixed nuts. I'm guessing that was 500-600 more. Had an almost 11 hr day at work, did perfect. A low water intake day. Then this. I'm thinking I was bored, tired, lonely. I was definitely not hungry. Trying to get back into the rule of no eating past 7pm, when bedtime is 9-10.
Happy Valentine's Day folks!
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Adamsa1969 wrote: »Wow! This post has been going for days, and I am so glad that I am not alone.
I find that when I drink diet soda, I tend to binge. Does anyone else find that diet soda is a trigger?
Studies have shown diet soda can trigger overeating sugary foods for some people.
I don't like the taste of artificial sweeteners, so don't drink it myself.0 -
This is what I do when there are high calorie and extremely tempting food out eg donuts:
1- ask to share a piece with others
2- if nobody wants to share or there isn't anyone there I cut a 1/4 or 1/3 piece and eat my share and leave the rest there.
This helps me not to feel deprived. Otherwise, I can go on to dream about that one food item which can lead to a binge. Feeling satisfied is key to my eating. Other than that it's sheer willpower- love food!!!0 -
Although it's unfortunate that so many people struggle with this issue, it is also nice to know that we are not alone in this. Thanks everyone for the words of encouragement and the awesome advice.
As far as being in a residential/inpatient setting goes, I do agree that sometimes drastic measures have to be taken in order to break bad habits. Unfortunately, it's so expensive and oftentimes realistic given life, work, etc. I really do wish I had the luxury of doing such a thing, because I do think it's lot harder to break the cycle than to maintain the newly formed habit (of not binging).0 -
I am with all of you guys. It seems like the more I concentrate on eating healthy the more I want junk food. I have never been like this or thought about food this much until the last 2 years. Now I binge eat junk food.... today was another bad day and I feel like I gained 10 pounds (probably did since I have been eating like crap the last 3 weeks). I have an event coming up in the beginning of May and I need to lose the 10. So I will definitely need a support group because all the other alternatives are not working0
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Honestly I'm still learning how to portion. When I buy a big box of something, I always finish the entire box. For example, I bought a box of Oreos, I ATE IT ALL IN ONE SITTING. It's weird cause after a few cookies, the taste gets repetitive and not as yummy compared to the first few bites but I keep eating it until there's no more and I'm uncomfortably full. Weird how my mind works. I always have an inner debate with myself whether or not I should eat something when I'm not hungry. Most of the time I end of binging and telling myself " oh well, I'll make up my calories tomorrow" but honestly it is extremely hard to make up calories the next day. It makes me want to binge even more when I restrict myself to such extent. So the lesson is, "stop making up bingings and stop the binge itself right then and there"0
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I like this thread. People are talking about eating huge portions of chips, ice cream, cookies, things like that - which is very understandable to me.
Sincere question here. Does anyone binge on multiple heads of plain undressed lettuce, or stacks of skinless steamed chicken breasts or a 2 pound bag of MacIntosh apples for instance?
I'm guessing the answer is no, but if there's anyone out there who does this and wouldn't mind saying so, it might make me reconsider what bingeing is all about.
I do actually do that. But it doesn't stop there. Generally, I do that when I feel the urge to binge. So I tell myself "I'll eat a HUGE volume of carrots/lettuce/cabbage/insert high volume healthy food here and then I won't feel like binging anymore." That is not how it ends. I then move on to things that are more satisfying, but still not what I want and binge on those (for example, beans). I then eventually just go for what I wanted in the first place, and then I feel like I've done enough damage so I might as well "get it out of my system." So I guess the answer to your question would technically be no...since I NEVER stop after the fruit or vegetable binge.0 -
Everyone: Another member sent me a message with this link, which I had no idea existed! It is an MFP group for people with binge eating disorder. If anyone is interested, here it is:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/members/112095-binge-eating-disorder0 -
I've had a couple of large meals this weekend due to seeing my gran, some friends and a wedding. I had a healthy tea of chicken, new potatoes and salad and I'm already thinking about food. Trying to stay vigilant but it's hard0
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So I guess the answer to your question would technically be no...since I NEVER stop after the fruit or vegetable binge.
So as I understand it, the binge doesn't end until the carby/sugary/high fat stuff gets delved into? Would that be what triggers the ultimate post-binge satiety, these types of foods?
I think that's what you meant. I did know one girl in high school who would start a binge with sliced tomatoes, pickles, that sort of thing, but it wouldn't end until all the pasta and all the sweets got eaten.
I'm curious because the long time forum users who scoff at the notion of "addiction" as it pertains to food and eating always say a calorie is a calorie. As they see it, a raw carrot is as fattening as a slice of pizza if someone overeats raw carrots. When that's challenged, they say YES! I'm SURE there's SOMEONE out there that got overweight from eating TOO MANY carrots. Sigh. Chocolate cake calories don't have magical properties as opposed to raw orange slice calories. And the sugar in each is exactly the same, and the body responds to it identically. (and I'm thinking, WHAT?)
Thing is, I never see folks saying they have a problem moderating green salad or raw apples or plain boiled eggs. Even in a binge thread, the binge isn't over until the cakes and pies and loaves of bread get eaten. 3 pounds of asparagus would never do.
I agree with that. And ultimately, if a craving is something that triggers the binge (i.e. brownies) then the binge won't end until that thing has been consumed in excessive quantities and in my case a lot more other items in the process.0 -
Adamsa1969 wrote: »Wow! This post has been going for days, and I am so glad that I am not alone.
I find that when I drink diet soda, I tend to binge. Does anyone else find that diet soda is a trigger?
Yes I do. I used to think it was the sugar causing my cravings , however even sugar free stuff cause me to crave food as it's sweet , so I try to stick to more savory foods , which are much easier for me to recognize that I am full and stop eating0 -
re the question about binging on chicken, lettuce, apples. that's a no for me. But, I will eat too much of say carrots AND dip, apples/celery AND peanut butter. Never the healthy foods (alone) for me. I think my binging is mostly unhealthy, junk food, sugary, carb-y, salty foods. Usually crunchy too. Fast food can take me down quickly. I find that if I start with something sugary, I then crave salt, and go back and forth between the two. I'm not really into chocolate or ice cream on a regular basis, but I have occasionally binged on them. Especially around Halloween for chocolate. The mini candy bars....yup, by the bagfuls.0
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Hi everyone, it's been so emotional reading your responses here - thanks ab6046 for starting the thread! If anyone wants to add me as a friend, please do. I've been binging since I was about fifteen and had disposable income - infuriatingly, it seems to be worse the stricter my diet is, and one thing leads to another.0
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Add me pls- i really need good friends!0
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Dr Avena found behaviors and attitudes toward some foods closely mirror addiction patterns. The most addictive foods are the ones which are high on the glycemic index (the naughty foods in the snack pantry).
"Several studies really do suggest that highly-palatable, highly-processed foods can produce behaviors and changes in the brain that one would use to diagnose an addiction, like drugs and alcohol," Avena says.
It is said that it can take six weeks to kick a sugar addiction, and you can experience strong cravings almost like a drug withdrawal.
If you want to kick the addiction, you have to eliminate all processed foods high in carbs. Carbs cause a release of serotonin and Dopamine in the brain, which are known as the "happy hormones". They also help to regulate moods, temper, anxiety and relieve depression. When one doesn't eat a healthy diet clear of processed foods for a while they can cause an imbalance of these hormones from the normal range- which will then lead to binging (like self medication). Even if you go on a diet and eat better for a period of time, it can take many weeks of clean eating to rebalance... but the withdrawal can be brutal, as the body has seemingly "adapted" to the high serotonin/dopamine etc. levels.
If you are dealing with binging, chances are it means your neurotransmitter hormones are off balance (wanting to be higher than normal because of past eating patterns), which then sends an alarm (cravings) to take in foods to raise the levels. Just like drugs.. After time, the body signals the craving to get a fix because the hormones it triggers are off balance (though once again, the balance its requiring is not normal range).
Having done a low carb WOE since 2012 (most time on but some off), I find this to be very true. I have also found that the most powerful way to defeat it is through fasting. Fasting gave me a reset (for hormone levels etc.) and a restart. It gave me the power to overcome food addiction. No more cravings, a smaller appetite and a bigger appreciation for healthier foods.
Addiction is like being a prisoner in your own body. It's not easy to overcome and may require more for some than others. I have shared the key that opened the cell door for me (fasting), but I'll tell you, it is the most difficult to follow through with. In the end, it was also the most powerful.
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I feel like I have stumbled into a sisterhood. Reading all of your postings is like reading my own story written by all of you. Add me, please. I am 47 years old and some of my earliest memories are of binges. It's got to stop.0
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Thank you everyone for being open and honest. I feel like so many of you often. I have a great day, stay within my calories, then blow it with a full on binge of whatever I have. Then feel so much guilt and disgust. I was wondering have any of you tried OA? Do any of you practice abstinence of certain foods?0
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