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rachaellynn69
rachaellynn69 Posts: 9 Member
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  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Why can't I lift weights while I am losing fat?
  • chimaerandi
    chimaerandi Posts: 153 Member
    I mean, cardio is the reason I lost weight too, but I just spaced it so MWF was cardio and TTH was lifting, I didn't take it as either/or.
  • hsmith0930
    hsmith0930 Posts: 160 Member
    What if I want to do absolutely NO exercise and just eat at a deficit?
  • vivmom2014
    vivmom2014 Posts: 1,649 Member
    Be careful with those cheat days - they can wipe out an entire week's worth of deficit.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    What if I want to have some chocolate cake while also thinking about calories?
  • ElizabethOakes2
    ElizabethOakes2 Posts: 1,038 Member
    Someone else spouting what worked for them without realizing that other people have different needs.
    Jane, you can and should lift weights while losing fat in order to maintain what muscle you have, but for many people, bulking is much harder to do when you're in a calorie deficit needed to lose fat. (The more muscle you have, the faster you burn, so really, yes, lifting weights while losing fat is a good thing, but trying to bulk muscle when you're in a calorie deficit probably won't work.)
  • rachaellynn69
    rachaellynn69 Posts: 9 Member
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!
  • yesimpson
    yesimpson Posts: 1,372 Member
    I wish I had started resistance training as soon as I decided to get fit and lose weight. Probably would've looked better and been stronger when I first hit goal weight if I had.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited February 2016
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!

    If I am "counting my calories" as you suggested in your OP and eating at a deficit, then gaining muscle weight will be unlikely.

    Lifting, by itself, won't add muscle weight. Resistance training is a great idea for everyone who is losing weight because it will help preserve muscle mass. Waiting until you are done losing weight to begin lifting isn't a great idea -- you want to keep as much muscle as you can while losing weight.
  • rachaellynn69
    rachaellynn69 Posts: 9 Member
    This is not me saying "you must do it this way" I am sharing what was successful for me. Weight lifting and cardio is something I do now on a regular basis while eating high protein and low fat non-processed foods. It may not be for everyone, I'm only here to give personal advice.
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    I lost 30+ pounds eating at a deficit and lifting heavy. I worked on my body composition all through weight loss. That's another way to do it.
  • Asher_Ethan
    Asher_Ethan Posts: 2,430 Member
    yesimpson wrote: »
    I wish I had started resistance training as soon as I decided to get fit and lose weight. Probably would've looked better and been stronger when I first hit goal weight if I had.

    I feel the same way. In the beginning I would only weight lift once a week because I thought anytime at the gym should be used for cardio. I noticed my strength significantly decrease in 3 months and I thought it was because of my deficit and I was tired.
  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!

    Does my diet have anything to do with this? Can I still drink lots of beer if I lift and do 40 minutes of cardio each day?
  • arditarose
    arditarose Posts: 15,573 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!

    You won't gain muscle and weight in a deficit. The scale should be going down even lifting in a deficit.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!

    If I am "counting my calories" as you suggested in your OP and eating at a deficit, then gaining muscle weight will be unlikely.

    Lifting, by itself, won't add muscle weight. Resistance training is a great idea for everyone who is losing weight because it will help preserve muscle mass. Waiting until you are done losing weight to begin lifting isn't a great idea -- you want to keep as much muscle as you can while losing weight.

    This
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    This is not me saying "you must do it this way" I am sharing what was successful for me. Weight lifting and cardio is something I do now on a regular basis while eating high protein and low fat non-processed foods. It may not be for everyone, I'm only here to give personal advice.

    I think part of the confusion here is that you're saying "you" in your post, as if you're telling others to do it this way. This comes across (to me) less as your personal experience than a series of prescriptions on how to lose weight. And some of them aren't especially helpful (like the advice not to lift until one is done losing weight).

    Sharing your experience is fine, but if you want to start a post telling others how to lose weight, it might be better to do some more research.
  • Maxematics
    Maxematics Posts: 2,287 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    You can! This suggestion is mostly for those who want to lose weight steadily. Cardio and weight lifting at the same time is perfectly okay, but just don't get upset when the scale fluctuates, when you lift you will gain muscle, and will gain weight, if you have a good balance it shouldn't be an issue!

    I know you're just trying to help people, but this really isn't true at all. I started here at the end of June at 139 pounds. The entire time I mixed cardio and resistance training and I believe that helped shape my body the best way possible thus far. I didn't fluctuate in weight and I didn't gain weight either; I'm 111 pounds now. People don't gain muscle eating at a calorie deficit. Cardio is wonderful for overall health and creating a larger deficit, but cardio isn't the key for body composition.

    Also, cheat days are never really a good idea because most people will take the meaning of "cheat day" to the extreme and can wipe out their entire deficit for the week. I lost weight eating cake, pizza, and anything I wanted as long as I was able to budget my calories for it.
  • chunky_pinup
    chunky_pinup Posts: 758 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    I think part of the confusion here is that you're saying "you" in your post, as if you're telling others to do it this way. This comes across (to me) less as your personal experience than a series of prescriptions on how to lose weight. And some of them aren't especially helpful (like the advice not to lift until one is done losing weight).

    Sharing your experience is fine, but if you want to start a post telling others how to lose weight, it might be better to do some more research.

    ^^^+1
  • ElizabethOakes2
    ElizabethOakes2 Posts: 1,038 Member
    As to "cheat" days, it depends on the person. My splurges happen every Saturday and I'm losing just fine- I 'bank' exercise calories to have my Saturday waffles. My husband can't do splurge days because he'll want to continue splurging the rest of the week and two waffles on Saturday will lead to cheeseburgers on Sunday and french fries on Monday, etc.
    Again, this is another thing that comes down to what works for each individual, and how things fit with their lifestyle, body chemistry, will-power, etc.
  • rachaellynn69
    rachaellynn69 Posts: 9 Member
    Once again, I am simply giving people advice that worked for me. Cheat days are not good for everyone, yes I know everyone is different physically and mentally, it is what works best for an individual. When I did cardio I worked on Elliptical at a pretty high resistance, I was still maintaining muscle. When I weight lift I PERSONALLY take in more calories because I get soooooooo hungry. My first initial comment is what I did to get where I am, it's a suggestion not a demand. That's all. Have a great day!
  • chunky_pinup
    chunky_pinup Posts: 758 Member
    I've lost 32 pounds doing almost NO cardio. I eat a deficit and lift heavy 3-5x/week. I have lost more inches than pounds, and have completely reshaped my body. You don't have to lose the fat before you work on your shape. Just because this worked for you doesn't mean it should be sold as the guide to how it's done.

    Unless of course, I'm doing it wrong?
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    Once again, I am simply giving people advice that worked for me. Cheat days are not good for everyone, yes I know everyone is different physically and mentally, it is what works best for an individual. When I did cardio I worked on Elliptical at a pretty high resistance, I was still maintaining muscle. When I weight lift I PERSONALLY take in more calories because I get soooooooo hungry. My first initial comment is what I did to get where I am, it's a suggestion not a demand. That's all. Have a great day!

    Unless you had a professional body scan before and after, I'm not sure how you would know that you retained all your muscle mass.



  • _Waffle_
    _Waffle_ Posts: 13,049 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    Once again, I am simply giving people advice that worked for me. Cheat days are not good for everyone, yes I know everyone is different physically and mentally, it is what works best for an individual. When I did cardio I worked on Elliptical at a pretty high resistance, I was still maintaining muscle. When I weight lift I PERSONALLY take in more calories because I get soooooooo hungry. My first initial comment is what I did to get where I am, it's a suggestion not a demand. That's all. Have a great day!

    Do you need to use the elliptical or does pretty much any cardio work?
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    Cardio was the reason I lost weight when I did. If you currently want to focus on the loss of fat, three times a week get on the elliptical and work your way up to 40-60 min every time you go and count your calories. When I did this, I lost 25 pounds in the matter of 3 months.
    once you lose the fat, then you can begin working on your shape. You do this by weight lifting and gaining muscle on machines. Swap our a work out or two of cardio to focus on working for a shape. Do not forget about cardio all together but you do not have to incorporate it as much or as long of a time as long as you are still eating properly.
    Also, when you get to where you want to be and if you think you can control yourself, allow yourself a cheat day once a week. It'd a day to be free of thought about calories and sometimes it's good to have some chocolate cake. Soul food is good when you have worked for it.

    I hope this is helpful!

    I'm strength training WHILE losing weight. I'm trying to preserve muscle now (while losing) so I don't have to eat at a surplus and regain weight after.

    Cardio, cardio, cardio (especially when close to goal) can help you lose fat+muscle...no thanks.
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    Y so much cardio?
  • rachaellynn69
    rachaellynn69 Posts: 9 Member
    Janejellyroll you seem to be argumentative, if you don't agree with me that is perfectly okay, exercise in general is a healthy way to keep strong and healthy, I have a general understanding of my body and it's abilities and strength, when I put resistance on the elliptical I can feel it working my muscles. It's not that complicated, and like I said if you disagree that's okay, good luck on your journey.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    Janejellyroll you seem to be argumentative, if you don't agree with me that is perfectly okay, exercise in general is a healthy way to keep strong and healthy, I have a general understanding of my body and it's abilities and strength, when I put resistance on the elliptical I can feel it working my muscles. It's not that complicated, and like I said if you disagree that's okay, good luck on your journey.

    I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not argumentative so much as I'm generally in favor of accuracy. We have a lot of newer users in this area who aren't as familiar with how weight loss works. I like for them to be able to see accurate information.

    I would hate for someone to conclude that they should avoid resistance training because it will keep them from losing weight steadily or that they have to avoid chocolate cake unless it is a "cheat day."

    Nobody is saying you don't know your body (although I don't think that translates into you somehow knowing whether or not you lose muscle by avoiding resistance training while in a calorie deficit -- we simply have no way to just "know" that. That you "feel" it working your muscles is irrelevant -- I "feel" my muscles working when I run up a hill, but that doesn't mean it is the type of resistance training that will help preserve muscle mass). What is being questioned is whether your impression that you know your own body means it is a good idea for you to make a post telling others how to lose weight.
  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    The what now?
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    chunky_pinup wrote: »
    I've lost 32 pounds doing almost NO cardio. I eat a deficit and lift heavy 3-5x/week. I have lost more inches than pounds, and have completely reshaped my body. You don't have to lose the fat before you work on your shape. Just because this worked for you doesn't mean it should be sold as the guide to how it's done.

    Unless of course, I'm doing it wrong?

    Clearly, you're doing it wrong.

    Also, I love your user pic!
  • idioblast
    idioblast Posts: 114 Member
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    rachaellynn69 wrote: »
    Janejellyroll you seem to be argumentative, if you don't agree with me that is perfectly okay, exercise in general is a healthy way to keep strong and healthy, I have a general understanding of my body and it's abilities and strength, when I put resistance on the elliptical I can feel it working my muscles. It's not that complicated, and like I said if you disagree that's okay, good luck on your journey.

    I'm sorry you feel that way. I'm not argumentative so much as I'm generally in favor of accuracy. We have a lot of newer users in this area who aren't as familiar with how weight loss works. I like for them to be able to see accurate information.

    I would hate for someone to conclude that they should avoid resistance training because it will keep them from losing weight steadily or that they have to avoid chocolate cake unless it is a "cheat day."

    Nobody is saying you don't know your body (although I don't think that translates into you somehow knowing whether or not you lose muscle by avoiding resistance training while in a calorie deficit -- we simply have no way to just "know" that. That you "feel" it working your muscles is irrelevant -- I "feel" my muscles working when I run up a hill, but that doesn't mean it is the type of resistance training that will help preserve muscle mass). What is being questioned is whether your impression that you know your own body means it is a good idea for you to make a post telling others how to lose weight.

    +1 - as always, excellent clarification for us newbies and lurkers.
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