starvation mode ?
rreynolds2905
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I have been doing lipo injections since 2/3. Start weight was 144.4 I work in an office so eating period is a struggle for me. The first week I was counting calories like mad, making sure I hit 1200 no matter what. Cut out everything but water (which the injections make me super thirsty so I am drinking over a gallon a day every day with out even trying). I lost just 2.4 lbs the first week. However since then I have stopped trying to cram in the 1200 calories cus I felt like I was eating all the time. The last 2 weeks I haven't logged my calorie intake, due to the fact I am only eating 1 meal a day (usually lunch being a salad or a subway sandwich not even being 500 cal max). I DO NOT EAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE 1 MEAL!. No snacking of any sort once I get home, no tasting food as I cook for my kids, etc. No gum, no candy, nothing other than water and the 1 meal a day. My question is, (with me having an office job) is starvation mode killing my weight loss? I went for my weekly injection this morning and I lost exactly 1 lb this week (so frustrating since I am paying $25 a week for these things!) I am starting my Gym membership today- Hoping that helps, but I am getting very frustrated at this point.
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What kind of injections are these? They're supposed to make you lose weight?0
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Are you saying you only eat 500 cals a day?0
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Never skip meals.... Especially breakfast as it starts your body. This was one of the hardest things I ever learned. If it's drinking a meal replacement... Get it in. Otherwise your body does go into starvation mode and holds your calories. Start the day right. Eat a protein, and start exercising. Once your body is done with the starvation mode, and you are honest with your counts, you will lose weight.0
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You are not in starvation mode. Losing 1 pound in a week is good/normal.
By the way, you don't need injections for weight loss...0 -
144 pounds - are you very short? Where do you get those injections, what are they supposed to do? Invest $15 in an electronic food scale, and use it. Log everything you eat and drink except pure water, honestly and accurately (check all nutrition labels). Eat the number of calories MFP tells you, and YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT.0
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Never skip meals.... Especially breakfast as it starts your body. This was one of the hardest things I ever learned. If it's drinking a meal replacement... Get it in. Otherwise your body does go into starvation mode and holds your calories. Start the day right. Eat a protein, and start exercising. Once your body is done with the starvation mode, and you are honest with your counts, you will lose weight.
No. This isn't true. Your body runs all the time. You don't need to "start" it. Missing one meal isn't going to put you into "starvation mode."
If someone is hungry in the morning, breakfast is a great idea. But it isn't required.0 -
so if the first 2 weeks worked for you, why did you change it? I'm confused why you have decided to only eat one meal and starve yourself.
I don't believe in starvation mode personally.
You need to eat to fuel your body. You need to workout to tone your body.
I would say go back to what was working.
Moreover, loosing 1 lbs a week is still awesome. That's normal. It is also very normal to drop more the first few weeks of changing your diet up and starting out. After that you go to what is usually more regular weight loss.
The only issue I'm seeing is your lack of good eating habits.0 -
If starvation mode was an actual thing all of those poor people you see on charity aid adverts who are just skin and bones would not be in the state they are. And in regards to another point I've seen raised on here, not eating in the morning is a matter of personal preference. If you want to get your calories in during the rest of the day only, that is totally fine.0
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The Lipo-Vite & Mic Lipo b-12 injections are weekly injections formulated to enhance fat burn and boost energy to help patients lose weight. Both injections have shown great effects for individuals wanting to lose 30-50 pounds.
Both injections include vitamins and amino acids. The lipotropic helps breakdown the fat during the metabolic process and promotes the exportation and burning of fat from the liver for extra energy. Other vitamins and amino acids in the injections are:
Methionine: to breakdown fats
Inositol: to regulate contents of the cells
Choline: helps to emulsify cholesterol so it doesn't settling on arterial walls
Vitamin B12 Cyanocolamanim: maintains energy levels and emotional stability
Vitamin B1 Thiamine Hydrochloride: to strengthen the immune system
Vitamin B2 Riboflavin: bolsters the immune system and guards against infection
Vitamin B3 Niacinamide: for high cholesterol
Vitamin B5 d-Pantothenol: plays an important role in cell regeneration
Vitamin B6 (Only in the Lipo-Vite b-12) Pyridoxineto: utilize energy from food you eat
Yes unfortunately, even yesterday being a sunday I logged 570 calories. I eat when I get hungry which is around 3pm every day. I just never get hungry which is (according to the clinic) why I was not losing weight. My body is accustomed to eating the 1 time a day because I have done it for years.0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »What kind of injections are these? They're supposed to make you lose weight?
Found this on the internet: http://www.weighlessmd.com/#!lipo-plus/c15kw
Basically B vitamins and amino acids (in other words, woo unless one is actually deficient)0 -
rreynolds2905 wrote: »The Lipo-Vite & Mic Lipo b-12 injections are weekly injections formulated to enhance fat burn and boost energy to help patients lose weight. Both injections have shown great effects for individuals wanting to lose 30-50 pounds.
Both injections include vitamins and amino acids. The lipotropic helps breakdown the fat during the metabolic process and promotes the exportation and burning of fat from the liver for extra energy. Other vitamins and amino acids in the injections are:
Methionine: to breakdown fats
Inositol: to regulate contents of the cells
Choline: helps to emulsify cholesterol so it doesn't settling on arterial walls
Vitamin B12 Cyanocolamanim: maintains energy levels and emotional stability
Vitamin B1 Thiamine Hydrochloride: to strengthen the immune system
Vitamin B2 Riboflavin: bolsters the immune system and guards against infection
Vitamin B3 Niacinamide: for high cholesterol
Vitamin B5 d-Pantothenol: plays an important role in cell regeneration
Vitamin B6 (Only in the Lipo-Vite b-12) Pyridoxineto: utilize energy from food you eat
Yes unfortunately, even yesterday being a sunday I logged 570 calories. I eat when I get hungry which is around 3pm every day. I just never get hungry which is (according to the clinic) why I was not losing weight. My body is accustomed to eating the 1 time a day because I have done it for years.
Honestly, those injections sound like a rip-off. I'd save the $25 and focus on what has been proven to work -- a calorie deficit.
You lost 2 pounds the first week, which is awesome. You lost 1 pound the next week, which is great. Your expectations need to be adjusted.
You should also eat in a way that allows you to maintain health and energy -- which means more than 500 calories a day. You are going to hurt yourself if you continue to under-feed yourself. You can eat once a day if that works best for you (lots of people do that), but you should eat more than 500 calories.0 -
Never skip meals.... Especially breakfast as it starts your body. This was one of the hardest things I ever learned. If it's drinking a meal replacement... Get it in. Otherwise your body does go into starvation mode and holds your calories. Start the day right. Eat a protein, and start exercising. Once your body is done with the starvation mode, and you are honest with your counts, you will lose weight.
Actually this is completely false. Some people that skip breakfast make up for it later in the day, so they should have at least a meal replacement. The actual science and multiple studies have shown that women's metabolism increases at 14 hours in the fasted state and men's increases at 16 hours in the fasted state. They don't drop below normal levels until 72 hours in the fasted state.
I actually highly suggest taking a look at the Minnesota Starvation Experiment for a study on starvation mode. Although mentality and hormones do make adjustments, they proved that the body will continue to burn fat and lean mass even when on an actual starvation diet.0 -
kommodevaran wrote: »144 pounds - are you very short? Where do you get those injections, what are they supposed to do? Invest $15 in an electronic food scale, and use it. Log everything you eat and drink except pure water, honestly and accurately (check all nutrition labels). Eat the number of calories MFP tells you, and YOU WILL LOSE WEIGHT.
yes- I am 5'3" (if I stand really straight) haha0 -
Never skip meals.... Especially breakfast as it starts your body. This was one of the hardest things I ever learned. If it's drinking a meal replacement... Get it in. Otherwise your body does go into starvation mode and holds your calories. Start the day right. Eat a protein, and start exercising. Once your body is done with the starvation mode, and you are honest with your counts, you will lose weight.
This is misinformation0 -
OP, you have only been losing for a couple of weeks. You are at the stage of the "start-up" cycle where your body is self-regulating the water it retains. Most people lose exctra water in the first couple of weeks, then the body goes "oops, I dropped too much and I need some of it back" so it retains a little more. Around 4-5 weeks, it has stabilized. What you see on the scale is a big drop, a stall (or even slight gain), then normal drops. Through all of this, your overall weekly loss should average close to the goal you set (assuming you are accurately counting your calories, both in and out)0
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i just don't know how you can't be in severe malnutrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Just doesn't add up here. something is terribly wrong if you are eating 500 calories a day and only losing 1 pound in a week.0 -
rreynolds2905 wrote: »The Lipo-Vite & Mic Lipo b-12 injections are weekly injections formulated to enhance fat burn and boost energy to help patients lose weight. Both injections have shown great effects for individuals wanting to lose 30-50 pounds.
Both injections include vitamins and amino acids. The lipotropic helps breakdown the fat during the metabolic process and promotes the exportation and burning of fat from the liver for extra energy. Other vitamins and amino acids in the injections are:
Methionine: to breakdown fats
Inositol: to regulate contents of the cells
Choline: helps to emulsify cholesterol so it doesn't settling on arterial walls
Vitamin B12 Cyanocolamanim: maintains energy levels and emotional stability
Vitamin B1 Thiamine Hydrochloride: to strengthen the immune system
Vitamin B2 Riboflavin: bolsters the immune system and guards against infection
Vitamin B3 Niacinamide: for high cholesterol
Vitamin B5 d-Pantothenol: plays an important role in cell regeneration
Vitamin B6 (Only in the Lipo-Vite b-12) Pyridoxineto: utilize energy from food you eat
A big scientific-sounding *kitten* there
Yes unfortunately, even yesterday being a sunday I logged 570 calories. I eat when I get hungry which is around 3pm every day. I just never get hungry which is (according to the clinic) why I was not losing weight. My body is accustomed to eating the 1 time a day because I have done it for years.
Meal timing does NOT impact weight loss. Eating too little does NOT make you not lose weight. You ARE losing weight.
Be sure you are eating enough, and logging accurately.0 -
So is this part of a "doctor supervised" diet clinic where you are given a very low calorie diet and shots?0
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Tomk652015 wrote: »i just don't know how you can't be in severe maluntrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Severe nutritional deficiencies usually take more than a couple of weeks to develop. I'm not saying this is a good plan or one that the OP should continue for even one more day (she shouldn't), but it usually takes more than a couple of weeks of sub-optimal eating for real deficiencies to develop.0 -
Wheelhouse15 wrote: »So is this part of a "doctor supervised" diet clinic where you are given a very low calorie diet and shots?
Been there. Done that. Gained it all back.
Stick with MFP, OP. Eat the amount of calories you are allotted. Use a food scale, weigh everything and log religously. It WILL work!0 -
Save your money and learn how to normalize your eating and exercise. If you don't solve the head game, you will always lose the weight game.0
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janejellyroll wrote: »Tomk652015 wrote: »i just don't know how you can't be in severe maluntrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Severe nutritional deficiencies usually take more than a couple of weeks to develop. I'm not saying this is a good plan or one that the OP should continue for even one more day (she shouldn't), but it usually takes more than a couple of weeks of sub-optimal eating for real deficiencies to develop.
i wasn't talking about getting so bad symptoms show up. she is malnourished at 500 cal a day.0 -
I love that you are working towards a great goal, but unfortunately, it sounds like the process may not be the best way. Mfp has a very easy to understand and healthy way for you to lose weight. I've tried tons of diets and have not been able to see any of them through because I could never live off of that lifestyle after the diet was over, therefore gaining back all the lost weight. Mfp is the first one that is manageable and realistic for years. If I were you, I would stop the injections and start a regimented calorie tracking diet (with food scale weighing). Don't expect to lose weight quickly, but honestly you can lose around 2 pounds a week, which seems pretty fast to me, without losing key nutrients and being miserable along the way. I hate to say this, but it sounds like the reason you are losing weight is from the low calories you are eating, not the injections. Good luck!0
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Tomk652015 wrote: »i just don't know how you can't be in severe malnutrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Just doesn't add up here. something is terribly wrong if you are eating 500 calories a day and only losing 1 pound in a week.
Malnutrition isn't a specific thing, if you aren't getting enough of any nutrient, including enough EFA or essential proteins then you are malnurished. There are people that eat huge amounts of food and suffer malnutrition because they aren't eating enough of certain micro nutrients so amount of food is only one aspect.
However, yes, if you are only eating 500 calories you are going to lose a lot of weight, both through muscle and fat.0 -
rreynolds2905 wrote: »I have been doing lipo injections since 2/3. Start weight was 144.4 I work in an office so eating period is a struggle for me. The first week I was counting calories like mad, making sure I hit 1200 no matter what. Cut out everything but water (which the injections make me super thirsty so I am drinking over a gallon a day every day with out even trying). I lost just 2.4 lbs the first week. However since then I have stopped trying to cram in the 1200 calories cus I felt like I was eating all the time. The last 2 weeks I haven't logged my calorie intake, due to the fact I am only eating 1 meal a day (usually lunch being a salad or a subway sandwich not even being 500 cal max). I DO NOT EAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE 1 MEAL!. No snacking of any sort once I get home, no tasting food as I cook for my kids, etc. No gum, no candy, nothing other than water and the 1 meal a day. My question is, (with me having an office job) is starvation mode killing my weight loss? I went for my weekly injection this morning and I lost exactly 1 lb this week (so frustrating since I am paying $25 a week for these things!) I am starting my Gym membership today- Hoping that helps, but I am getting very frustrated at this point.
It's most likely water weight for a variety of reasons, but I highly suggest quitting the injections and focusing on creating healthy habits. Set your goal to lose 1 pound per week, which will help with hunger you may experience coming off the injections. Protein and vegetables will help. Working out will give you more calories to eat and as long as you are being accurate you will lose weight without having expensive injections.0 -
Tomk652015 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Tomk652015 wrote: »i just don't know how you can't be in severe maluntrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Severe nutritional deficiencies usually take more than a couple of weeks to develop. I'm not saying this is a good plan or one that the OP should continue for even one more day (she shouldn't), but it usually takes more than a couple of weeks of sub-optimal eating for real deficiencies to develop.
i wasn't talking about getting so bad symptoms show up. she is malnourished at 500 cal a day.
I'm not understanding how she can be "in severe malnutrition" without having any symptoms of it. The human body is pretty resilient. We can handle a couple of weeks of eating poorly. I'm not saying one should *do* it, as there is no reason to put your body through that stress unless you have to. But I doubt she is in severe malnutrition.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »Wheelhouse15 wrote: »So is this part of a "doctor supervised" diet clinic where you are given a very low calorie diet and shots?
Been there. Done that. Gained it all back.
Stick with MFP, OP. Eat the amount of calories you are allotted. Use a food scale, weigh everything and log religously. It WILL work!
Exactly! My ex did that and she gained it all back and more.0 -
I am supposed to be eating the 1200 calories a day, but I did that for the first week and I felt like I was eating all the time. I am not saying what I am doing is right by any means, its just what my body is accustomed to. I was only eating at 8:30 at night due to kids practices, etc. It is REALLY hard to force yourself to eat when you just are not used to doing it.
The lipo shots may be a waste of $, but since they are vitamins, etc.... it wouldnt hurt.0 -
Tomk652015 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Tomk652015 wrote: »i just don't know how you can't be in severe maluntrition at 500 calories of salad a day.
Severe nutritional deficiencies usually take more than a couple of weeks to develop. I'm not saying this is a good plan or one that the OP should continue for even one more day (she shouldn't), but it usually takes more than a couple of weeks of sub-optimal eating for real deficiencies to develop.
i wasn't talking about getting so bad symptoms show up. she is malnourished at 500 cal a day.
Ok, now I see what you mean. Symptoms don't usually show up for a while for most deficiencies.
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rreynolds2905 wrote: »I have been doing lipo injections since 2/3. Start weight was 144.4 I work in an office so eating period is a struggle for me. The first week I was counting calories like mad, making sure I hit 1200 no matter what. Cut out everything but water (which the injections make me super thirsty so I am drinking over a gallon a day every day with out even trying). I lost just 2.4 lbs the first week. However since then I have stopped trying to cram in the 1200 calories cus I felt like I was eating all the time. The last 2 weeks I haven't logged my calorie intake, due to the fact I am only eating 1 meal a day (usually lunch being a salad or a subway sandwich not even being 500 cal max). I DO NOT EAT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE 1 MEAL!. No snacking of any sort once I get home, no tasting food as I cook for my kids, etc. No gum, no candy, nothing other than water and the 1 meal a day. My question is, (with me having an office job) is starvation mode killing my weight loss? I went for my weekly injection this morning and I lost exactly 1 lb this week (so frustrating since I am paying $25 a week for these things!) I am starting my Gym membership today- Hoping that helps, but I am getting very frustrated at this point.
These weight loss clinics are notorious for spreading bad info. It looks like they've told you some really terrible misinformation. You should start by educating yourself on how weight loss really happens. These clinics are in business to make money . they prey upon the naïve and desperate so they can make a profit. If they told you that weight loss comes from a calorie deficit they would be out of business . so stop listening to the hype and start researching on your own. You are very misguided about weight loss and starvation mode .
Weight loss comes down to a calorie deficit. Calories in and calories out.
If your really eating 500 cals per day , your not doing yourself any favors. Your likely losing muscle mass so your end result very well could be loose saggy skin and a soft doughy physique. I'm sure that's not the look you want . you need to preserve as much muscle mass as possible.
Please do some serious research on your own . start by reading the stickied posts in the beginning of this forum . you will learn that what you think is fact, is actually misinformation.0
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